Crazy yields from vertical?

[PARADOX]

Was just reading the new high times and they have a article about a vertical grow that is yielding 12 pounds per vertical grow unit. each is loaded with 3 1000w hps bulbs. SO they are getting 3 pounds per 1000w bulb with slightly under 200 plants per unit.. Does this add up with all you vertical pros? What is the typical yield most of you are pulling? If 12 pounds every 8 weeks is possible with 3k of lighting then might need to change up things around here..


grow on

 

[HushemFlupskluk]

Little over 300 grams off a 250 watt bulb with 2 NL seeds. Which is 1.2 GPW. But I cheated a bit with overpreassure during vegging and 1,5 week 12/12.

Not all area around the lamp was 100% taken so I think I can improve up to 2 GPW or more with the proper genes.

Good luck doing it! I had to pay extra attention to humidity.

 

[cyat]

not even close

 

[spunion]

3x1000hps feeding 200 plants seems extreme. That has got to be one crazy ass scrog, and 12 per 200 plants kinda confirms that. I'm not really convinced you gain an advantage with vertical as opposed to using XXXL hoods with the scrog method.

 

[ManitobaMedical]

well 3lbs per 1000 = 9lbs not 12 that would be 4 per light which might be putting a little extra mustard on that weener , u said 3 lights right? I never herd of anyone comming close to that if its true I changing methods asap
MM

 

[spunion]

I want to see pics of 1 light supplying 66-67 plants.

Only thing I can think of is having 3 shelves of plants on the walls and the ground completely covered with a huge hydro setup and everything being contained with "chicken wire."

 

[bobblehead]

numbers dictate yield... DHF says he knows a guys pulling 4lbs a lamp horizontal... He never speaks a word of bullshit. 4lbs per 1kw vertical lamp is small potatoes...

 

[d4nk]

i know a guy running rockwool and drippers doing 4 per vertical. plant numbers probably arent that outrageous either

 

[PARADOX]

Sorry the article which was called "Vertical growing in Canada" said 4 pounds per 1000w light.. so yes 12 pounds per 3k of lighting.. I suggest yall check it out. Interesting read for sure.. It works out to a lil over 1 oz per plant. So i guess its not all that mind blowing. The veg and clone rooms they had set up were quite the sight also. Here is a quote from the mag
"On average, this vertical growing design is achieving yields of nearly 4 pounds of very high quality medical marijuana per 1,000 watts of HID lighting used. In this particular installation, there are serval growing stations that are constantly in flower, each station running 3 1,000-watt lamps. So for every 5x5 footprint occupied by one of these vertical grow stations, the yield is nearly 12 pounds of high-grade medical marijuana every two months."

From what I see in the pics it does indeed look like they could be getting close to a oz+ per plant.

 

[mg75]

i agree... plant numbers do dictate yields... and jail time.
cash croppers and drug dealers always look to increase yield. medical users look for increase in quality and staying in the legal boundaries prescribed by the law.

 

[MIway]

Best my buddy could ever get was 3 per Lt... in a crazy vertical walled system, with hand watered plants on the floor... using all 7.5' of vertical space... though these weren't focused grow on commercial yielders... numbers were crazy, so that project went bye-bye... lmaol

 

[bobblehead]

i agree... plant numbers do dictate yields... and jail time.
cash croppers and drug dealers always look to increase yield. medical users look for increase in quality and staying in the legal boundaries prescribed by the law.

Medical users don't look to increase yields? I'm pretty sure I want the best meds at the lowest cost... Medical patients often have debilitating ailments, and are dependent on a fixed income...

I did the caregiving... and unless you can keep it in the family, I don't think it's worth it. I kept an apartment to sell out of, and I had my door kicked in... It's dangerous having to give your address out to your patients.

Now, I don't know where you are... but where I am, if I'm growing 100, I might as well be growing 1,000... Same legal status.

 

[bobblehead]

Best my buddy could ever get was 3 per Lt... in a crazy vertical walled system, with hand watered plants on the floor... using all 7.5' of vertical space... though these weren't focused grow on commercial yielders... numbers were crazy, so that project went bye-bye... lmaol

Very nice MIway... as you know, I'm looking to pull 2lbs+ per 600w lamp... Personally I think 2.5 is going to be easy once I get things dialed and put some plants on the floor...

 

[DHF]

Yeah.....Sky`s the limit with vertical bare bulbs.......always has been......I was runnin 5 lb ebb and flow bucket flip rooms with 3-600`s side by side with everything covered in reflectix for over 5 yrs before I upped the plant numbers and built my version of Heath`s racks that upped things to 2 lbs per 600 without even plants on the floor .....

OP.....what you`re readin about is a standard "Coliseum" grow with stacked bulbs and budsicles grown vertically instead of horizontally , whether it`s a pre-manufactured unit , or a twisted kid`s DIY version that`s dialed his shit.....

I`ve helped 100`s of folks over the yrs in Canada , Europe , Australia , and ALL legal states in the US ta max out their available sq ftg ftw IF they were willin ta listen and not freak out bout not usin "air-cooled-hoods" and increased plant numbers regardless of their plant allowances.....

Anyways.....and write this in Fukin stone.........As many plants as yas can put side by side , and stack on top and bottom of each other , and FLIP em at the right time MONOCROPPED to where they`ll stretch the same , create the proper canopy , and not crowd each plant and compete for environment and lumen absorption once swellage begins , will give yas as close to all your girls will put out for yas ....everytime.....guaranteed....and now.....

I `ve got growbro`s in SoCal that`ve been selling elite cuts to the Clubs since early `96 that went offline cuz they got bullshit called on their creative increased number SOG tables they were runnin and killin it with , so I knew this many yrs ago from these 2 guys met at an obscure weedsite with not many members........

256-3" rockwool cubes on each 4 x 4 , or 512 on 4 x 8`s with fully rooted "pick of the litter" cuts flipped straight 12/12 under parabolic un-cooled hoods poppin out 4 lbs of 1/4 oz budsicles per light for over 15 yrs.......very do-able with a clone factory and the ability to use the best of the best every run while sellin the rest to the clubs.....

All bout da numbers guys......Believe that......Where I live , 1 plant can send me to prison for the rest of my life for cultivation if LEO deems it so , so I went fer broke WAY back and retired couple yrs ago from close bro gettin popped , but I`ve got enough and my boy`s took care of...

Increased Plant numbers monocropped and dealt with in a perpetual flip type setup will increase yer portfolio.....at least it did for me....

12 lbs regular from 200 plants gives yas 192 ozs , so it`s all relative.....but.....4 lbs per 256 just makes it easier and faster if yas have the ways and means ta do so with fully rooted cuts flipped ....times as many tables from rooted cut yas can pack em in at for yearly yield /crop increases........Volume , volume , volume....

My 2 cents from all them yrs....DHF.......

 

[mg75]

there is a federal law that will trump any medical law. don't be greedy and get busted by the DEA with high plant numbers cause you wanna make money or post your numbers online for bragging purposes. federal prison is no fun.

yes, i agree high plant numbers will give you higher yields, but the consequences are much harsher. who do you think a jury is going to favor... a clone factory with hundreds of rooted clones? or a medical user with 10-15 plants?

be safe.

 

[DHF]

MG....I respect your opinion , but what`s the name of this thread...There`s not any bragging or bullshit in my response about something that`s goin on all around you , regardless of your thoughts on Federal DEA convictions /restrictions on legal "Allowed patient/caregiver" numbers...

If you`d liketa allude to the fact that I`m a Dealer for living in Hell where pot will NEVER be legal , then please refer to me as a "retired" Dealer......

Everyone wants to feel like if they`ve got a scrip for legal dope , then that`s what`s goin on in their own lil world to make their head feel better bout growin dope.....

Feel blessed for where you live , but also know that if LEO`s got yer name on a list of dope growers and patients , that you`re gonna get a visit when you least expect it...THEN.....You best be in compliance....Seen it happen many times since`96 when Cali went wide open wild wild west....

I`ll never have that option, but I assure you of 1 thing....Legal numbers mean Dick .....I came into this thread to help increase yields , not argue politics best left in other forums...and for the record.....

My ego`s been left at the door for many yrs....Life`s too short to argue with strangers on the internet when I`m only here ta help from personal experience , not hearsay.....

Peace....DHF........

 

[MIway]

I lived in a medi state for years before I came out of the closet... and I still question whether or not I really want to be on the books...

Everywhere that I've been, you break the medi laws no matter what... unless you only harvest say 2.5 oz for all 6, or 7, or 12, or whatever, you total plants counts are... per person. If you harvest anything more, you are illegal. How can I only harvest 2.5 oz for this patient spread over 6 plants... that's .4oz each plant... really?

The point you have 'potential overages'... you are illegal.

If you veg while you flower, you are illegal. If you buy clones, you are doing so from someone illegal... maybe illegal to just buy em in the first place...?

If you keep genetics & moms... illegal. If you share/sell... likely illegal. If you take any money... likely illegal.

If you smoke outside... illegal. If you don't carry your papers with you at all times... illegal. If you don't tell them of an address change... illegal.


There isn't very much the MMj laws do except to open the door... they aren't a functional set of laws to a burgeoning industry... that is all illegal federally.




A whole shit ton of pussy's this MMj thing has brought about. Grow a pair. Overgrow. Just be smart about it.

 

[ThePizzaMan]

I love you DHF!

 

[DHF]

I lived in a medi state for years before I came out of the closet... and I still question whether or not I really want to be on the books...

Everywhere that I've been, you break the medi laws no matter what... unless you only harvest say 2.5 oz for all 6, or 7, or 12, or whatever, you total plants counts are... per person. If you harvest anything more, you are illegal. How can I only harvest 2.5 oz for this patient spread over 6 plants... that's .4oz each plant... really?

The point you have 'potential overages'... you are illegal.

If you veg while you flower, you are illegal. If you buy clones, you are doing so from someone illegal... maybe illegal to just buy em in the first place...?

If you keep genetics & moms... illegal. If you share/sell... likely illegal. If you take any money... likely illegal.

If you smoke outside... illegal. If you don't carry your papers with you at all times... illegal. If you don't tell them of an address change... illegal.


There isn't very much the MMj laws do except to open the door... they aren't a functional set of laws to a burgeoning industry... that is all illegal federally.




A whole shit ton of pussy's this MMj thing has brought about. Grow a pair. Overgrow. Just be smart about it.

Never thought twice about my future and takin care of my family best I knew how while buildin shit and payin taxes....

Being self employed your whole life means takin care of your situation to survive cuz nobody else is there ta feed , clothe , shelter , or PAY that ass .....Survival at any cost...

Legal ain`t legal....It`s just bein on da list of who`s next ta fuck with you....but....

There are ways ta insulate yourself...regardless of where you live......

Miway....Respect....Overgrow....Get in where yas fit in....

Peace.....DHF............

 

[turbolaser4528]

love the info from an OG like DHF!

like gold though, for real. How does one insulate themselves? How did you live the double life DHF? that seems to be the hardest part for me, having to lie and be fake to so many people..