GoneRooty
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Love it! Maybe Cervantes can put that in the new book he's writing?
Best Yield Organic Recipe?
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Love it! Maybe Cervantes can put that in the new book he's writing?
Best Yield Organic Recipe?
yup, if you are willing to risk high plant counts and want to work your ass off, sog with each plant in it's own container is a solid plan. you can't get higher yields than that.
yup, if you are willing to risk high plant counts and want to work your ass off, sog with each plant in it's own container is a solid plan. you can't get higher yields than that.
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CC_2U
For MMJ growers in my part of the world this is the 'deal killer' on the so-called 'Sea of Green' method <shakes head>
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Oldmac
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Interesting thread and some very good debate. I find myself agreeing with some from both sides.
Outdoors, I've always grown "organic" but never thought of it that way till recent times when that became a great buzz word. I use a mulch mixed with some of the sandy soil I have in the area to fill my holes and use fish emultion for fertilizer.
Indoors, my personal grow is RW based but in a partnered grow I have built aero/fog trays and both are based on chem ferilizer.
I have yet to find anyone who can tell the difference in the taste of the finished product.
As to labor, there is a certain amount of work and problems associated with both chem or organic. Being old and lazy I try to hold the labor down in both cases.
This may come down to a matter of simple personal choice.....what works best for you, in your own situation.
OM
Outdoors, I've always grown "organic" but never thought of it that way till recent times when that became a great buzz word. I use a mulch mixed with some of the sandy soil I have in the area to fill my holes and use fish emultion for fertilizer.
Indoors, my personal grow is RW based but in a partnered grow I have built aero/fog trays and both are based on chem ferilizer.
I have yet to find anyone who can tell the difference in the taste of the finished product.
As to labor, there is a certain amount of work and problems associated with both chem or organic. Being old and lazy I try to hold the labor down in both cases.
This may come down to a matter of simple personal choice.....what works best for you, in your own situation.
OM
BongRipkenJR.
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I am partial to organic buds. I have seen and had great hydro, but I can tell a hydro bud from a mile away.
I don't understand people who have to constantly spray things. I am running Canna nuts' with some botanicare/H&G additives in coco and I dont have a bug, mold, or mildew problem at all. I think a clean grow is the best prevention.
I don't understand people who have to constantly spray things. I am running Canna nuts' with some botanicare/H&G additives in coco and I dont have a bug, mold, or mildew problem at all. I think a clean grow is the best prevention.
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vonforne
Ok gang here we go..........
My best advice about yield is learn how to grow SUCCESSFULLY first. All you new guys worry about yield.......
Learn all aspects of indoor growing and the yield will come. Patience.....pure and simple.
I could grow in 10 different soils and if everything is not optimal in the grow room then me yield will be shit.
Learn to play all six strings on the guitar......not just one.
Good luck.
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My best advice about yield is learn how to grow SUCCESSFULLY first. All you new guys worry about yield.......
Learn all aspects of indoor growing and the yield will come. Patience.....pure and simple.
I could grow in 10 different soils and if everything is not optimal in the grow room then me yield will be shit.
Learn to play all six strings on the guitar......not just one.
Good luck.
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CC_2U
Good point vonforne. But your post leads to a troubling problem for me..........
...my guitar only has 4 strings, what am I suppose to do?
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Take up the bass guitar?
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I don't believe you have tried what I am doing now.
I can probably imagine some more.
Do you really not have a problem with having to constantly apply poison to plants people are going to smoke? This is why I decided to stop purchasing commercial bud. The fact I can get yields close to the best hydro garden is just icing on the cake.
its definitely true that methods influence yield more than chem vs organic.
pack the buds in and use as much soil as you can. find a mix that your plants are happy in and that you can reliably buy/make/acquire consistent ingredients for and tweak the main N and PK sources for each strain by research, trial and error. take notes.
sorry, nearly forgot the sex metaphor -
growing with organic soil is a bit like making love to a beautiful woman....
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Shit! I forgot to take notes. damn.
I guarantee my herb doesn't look anything like the commercial bud you're accustomed to. I let them run as long as needed, flush thoroughly, and run mostly elite cuts that aren't very common.
Regarding the "poisons" you're so worried about, when applied at below the recommended dosage and at the right times, the life of those chemicals in the plant is around 3 weeks. I never apply them with less than a month to go til harvest, and Steep Hill labs found no traces of any of them in my finished product. It was an expensive test to be sure, but it's living proof that Floramite and Eagle 20 do not remain in the plant tissue after 4 weeks, period.
I would rather use an effective miticide/fungicide ONCE (that protects the plants for weeks) than use an ineffective organic alternative every 3-4 days. Who do you think is ingesting more poison?
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CC_2U
I use the following as an insectice/fungicide agent:
Neem Oil - organic, food grade
Karanja Oil - wild harvested, food grade
Seaweed - food grade
Rosemary Extract - food grade
Mint Extracts - food grade
Aloe Vera - food grade
Liquid Silica - approved for organic food production
Nettle Tea - edible, organically grown
Yarrow - edible, organically grown
Nice strawman argument. Nice but without merit as usual.
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IE2KS_KUSH
There is more than one way to skin a cat for sure, do what works.
GoneRooty
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I don't know CC, that food grade stuff is pretty poisonous
Ya gotta be careful with those food grade organics, they might make you healthier!
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CC_2U
"I love the smell of Floramite in the morning - it smells like I might be able to pay my Section 8 Housing fee without calling mommy again!"
Wow.....
IMO yields are in the genetics to start...then a variety of factors come into play depending on how well you know WTF you're doing with organic methods.
I have types that kick ass for me,but given to another gardener didn't do so hot.
IMO yields are in the genetics to start...then a variety of factors come into play depending on how well you know WTF you're doing with organic methods.
I have types that kick ass for me,but given to another gardener didn't do so hot.
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CC_2U
I don't know CC, that food grade stuff is pretty poisonous
Or at least keep a certain ability to remain lucid and cogent enough not to buy into the wild and weird claims by Cannabis Cowboys - real and/or imagined.
Born out of grow store stupidity and YouTube videos put up to maintain their pseudo-science.
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