San Diegos Finest Cuts #2

[Natagonnaworrie]

Oh yeah, that is just plain Madness or SD Madness. Same babe in your garden Sub.

If i recall correctly, she was well received at the Las Vegas 420 cup. Red can elaborate. (I won't be missing that next year.)

 

[redspaghetti]

She was favored for her bag appeals and the smells, almost everyone that pick up the jar and smells instantly wants to give her a try lol im not kidding.


she got 8th place in the cup because she wasnt grown by the greenest thumbs so you know how good she would be when shes in the right hand...

great work on this one sub, cant wait see what you got cooking lol

cheers,

 

[Zen Master]

IE OG Kush day 44

lil bit of foilar residue on that one fan leaf but no worries.

 

[max_well]

tmv update

tmv update

Well, to follow up on what I was pretty convinced was a TMviral issue in my room, stemming from hells angel OG that I got at PNC: seems I've had root aphids all along. Tested with TMV test strips with negative results. Co2 enhancement definitely exacerbated the stress caused by the aphids.. actually had all the branches drop off of one of the HA OG plants, like plant-leporsy! damn frightening to see. so now I'm battling the aphids. I had given a some precautionary treatment for aphids when I first got the cuts.. so I didn't think that was the issue. But they are plain to see now that I broke apart the root balls a few very deteriorated plants. Luckily things are still vegging... hopefully I those that still look decent to recover before flipping. Thanks to y'all for the suggestions and talking me down off the TMV ledge... from what I've read about root aphids, sounds like they can be almost as challenging to eradicate.. insights and experiences are appreciated.
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Max

 

[Storm Shadow]

Root Aphids IMHO are not even worth fighting unless your just about to harvest....

If your just starting in Veg...throw everything away....nuke your rooms with bombs and pray they dont come back...i have had a number of associates relocate due to these evil lil bastards.... you can fight them....but you will never win unless you cut ties with all infected products...another reason why I live and Die for Seeds....I cant stand losing sleep over battling bugs/diseases

 

[praisehim.]

quote: redspaghetti: yep, but anyone who smokes it will say other wise- does that mean i get to try some ? haha. looks great man.

mxwell: sorry to hear your misfortune, but storm shadows probably right. bomb everything. start over. just remember, your not growing, your preventing.

 

[Zen Master]

I've battled RA's before and its worse than any other problem in my opinion. Spider mites are a walk in the park compared to root aphids.


as I'm sure you know about Imidacloprid (Bayer Tree & Shrub is the most readily available form IIRC) being one of the most recommended pesticides thats actually somewhat effective against them, I'll say you will probably need multiple applications. In real high doses I've burned some plants so dont go crazy, but definitely mix up a strong batch.



StormShadow nailed it, if you're in bloom, don't even bother treating as its systemic, if you're in veg, take cuttings and make ABSOLUTELY sure they are clean, I'd get a good mite dip too and dip every single one very thoroughly.

root those cuttings elsewhere, not in the next room, a whole different location if possible.

then start over with 100% brand new media. Hate to say it but I've heard of people getting the fuckers in their brand new bags of soil, hence why I like baled up coco bricks.

do not re use any media, wash the shit out of your pots, bleach the floors and walls, make it as clean and sterile as humanly possible.

another thing for prevention would be to not be walkin around outside and then straight into your grow, same goes for pets.

good luck, you'll need it.



edit: glad to hear the TMV result came back negative though!

 

[Grizz]

sub - i believe you are the father of this cut , i got this one from nata, about a year and half go, the first few time i didnt get her to do this, she was much more leafy, this is the 4th run with her, i lowered the N in 3rd week, gave her pk boost at week 5 - 6 and flush at 7. she was chopped right at 8, i could have let her go longer she was still gaining weight at that time,,

amazing cut to say for sure, ill make sure to get her dialed in even better next time




yep, but anyone who smokes it will say other wise

cheers brotha


ps. heres a cpl dried shot,
nug is hard, sweet strong odor like it would slap you in the face when you open the jar. beautiful color and lovely high

it was really exotic smoke, Red your thumb is green enough,

 

[Mountain]

ya mountain...i think i remember ape having a cut called great og in rotation...but we all know my memory

I think that was just late night beer paranoia setting in...lol...especially with someone mentioning my backyard which is very rare here. I should invite him over after he harvests. Cool to see some Dago cuts coming up to true NorCal. Wish I knew he was coming cause would have requested a few cuts...ha ha!

 

[Zen Master]

on a different note, has anybody else tried out that Google Power Meter thing?

I got mine set up and am absolutely appalled at what I'm seeing.

they tell you to the .01 how many kWh you are using in 10 minute blocks, 24/7.

so I can tell the difference in the chart between 10 watts worth of something kickin on or off.

when my 1000w light turns off (I tested with a Kill A Watt and it comes out at 960w) my chart registers a drop of 400w. Straight up bullshit.

an hour before my light comes on I'm at a certain kWh usage (don't wanna get to specific here, I'm sure you understand) an hour after my light kicks on (same 1000w) I'm at the exact same kWh.

hmmmmmmmmmm


The sample chart they have as an image shows spikes, just a random amount, but spikes. I.E. someone turns on a 1100w microwave for 10 minutes, it shows.

well I microwaved something the other day just to test this.... I got no spikes (1100w microwave)

what I'm seeing is blocks and plateaus, not spikes. Nearly everything is in 1 hour increments whatever kWh it happens to be at, its at nearly that amount +/- 10 watts or so, for the full hour.

also, what I think is fucking my bill up is apparently I have over 1.5 kWh of 24/7 passive draw. The clock on my DVR, oven, fridge cycling every couple hours etc does NOT pull that amount, no fucking way. My lights are off, no TV's on, grow wattage accounted for and I still have that draw? I call BS.


I'm curious to see if anyone else has tried this out, what have you seen? do you have spikes or blocks?

it should look like a line graph, mine looks like a bar graph with my purported 'usage'.

 

[Greyskull]

Well, to follow up on what I was pretty convinced was a TMviral issue in my room, stemming from hells angel OG that I got at PNC: seems I've had root aphids all along. Tested with TMV test strips with negative results. Co2 enhancement definitely exacerbated the stress caused by the aphids.. actually had all the branches drop off of one of the HA OG plants, like plant-leporsy! damn frightening to see. so now I'm battling the aphids. I had given a some precautionary treatment for aphids when I first got the cuts.. so I didn't think that was the issue. But they are plain to see now that I broke apart the root balls a few very deteriorated plants. Luckily things are still vegging... hopefully I those that still look decent to recover before flipping. Thanks to y'all for the suggestions and talking me down off the TMV ledge... from what I've read about root aphids, sounds like they can be almost as challenging to eradicate.. insights and experiences are appreciated.
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Max

hey man i think it was the root aphids that spread "the trait" from the og clones I had to all my other plants in the room. they were not the easiest to identify as I "looked" many times and thought i just had pesky fungus gnats.

as ed rosenthal puts it, "vectors for disease".
merit 75wp works great in my experience. its a little bit pricey compared to the bayer but it hadnt let me down.

anyways glad you found the bugs good luck getting rid of them

 

[Greyskull]

hey ive been following that lv420 cup thread...
sounds like a weekend at subs lol

not trying to be all sentimental and shit but i miss burning bowls with you guys
when ya'll coming over hahaha

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

We miss you too bro!

Fuck. Let organize something. Worst case i will be rolling out to Vegas next April ha ha. (i just saw their thead.)

# 1 comment on the Madness is the smell. All around huge hit but the smell is amazing.

 

[redspaghetti]

well, i crossed her with one of my sour dog stud

going to find a good spot to grow these beans out, if i find something special ill call it the

SD MAD DOG ahahah

cheers

 

[Mountain]

well, i crossed her with one of my sour dog stud

going to find a good spot to grow these beans out, if i find something special ill call it the

SD MAD DOG ahahah

Ha ha...Mad Dog. A nice straight Sour Diesel dad might be a nice cross to her too. When Sub hit her with some C99 pollen the Madness yield still shined through.

What's Sour Dog anyway?

 

[subrob]

wow man...you rocked the shit out of that! i have never seen it turn purple like that! great job growing it if it took8th at the cup i think...i love her....mostly for the taste and smell...and the weight she can pull if she gets the light...not the father of her though...adopted father is more like it...an old dude here in dago crossed oregon big bud to an unknown indy...he grew and sold it for over twenty years...retired and asked a friend of mine if he knew someone who would appreciate the cut and keep her going...thats how i got her...i am gonna cross her w some fem chem d pollen....was gonna call it mad dog...but you posted first! ha...i will have to call it subs mad dog.....or how about gargoyle bulldog!...couple peeps here will get that!

 

[echo_chamber]

Bayer Fruit & Vegetable (Imidacloprid) killed the super resistant aphids for me... I fought them for a year with everything under the sun (that didnt require a licence to buy) then i bought that $12 bottle of Bayer and they've never returned. I've used it on newly rooted clones even, no problems.. Saved 3 other garden's with it, its forever in my arsenal now.

Well, to follow up on what I was pretty convinced was a TMviral issue in my room, stemming from hells angel OG that I got at PNC: seems I've had root aphids all along. Tested with TMV test strips with negative results. Co2 enhancement definitely exacerbated the stress caused by the aphids.. actually had all the branches drop off of one of the HA OG plants, like plant-leporsy! damn frightening to see. so now I'm battling the aphids. I had given a some precautionary treatment for aphids when I first got the cuts.. so I didn't think that was the issue. But they are plain to see now that I broke apart the root balls a few very deteriorated plants. Luckily things are still vegging... hopefully I those that still look decent to recover before flipping. Thanks to y'all for the suggestions and talking me down off the TMV ledge... from what I've read about root aphids, sounds like they can be almost as challenging to eradicate.. insights and experiences are appreciated.
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Max

 

[max_well]

Evergreen 60-6, Botanigard info>?

Evergreen 60-6, Botanigard info>?

Thanks y'all for the words of advice on the aphids.. I've read about all there is to read on these threads about the uphill battle they can pose.
I've seen some encourage reports (on ***famer website) of using products with multiple modes of action to control if not eradicate-- Evergreen 60-6 is a pyrethrin-based insecticide and Botanigard is a fungal-based organic treatment that both sound promising. Evergreen I have not seen mentioned on this website, but some guys at San Diego hydro sweat that it has saved some many a local crop.
I actually did a flush with the Bayer tree and shrub as a precaution just after picking up the clones from PNC while they where in initial quarantine stage, as an initial flush as we potted them into keg cups of coco. I think this probably has slowed the outbreak, as we have seen no flyers, but have found crawlers in most pots and all plants seem affected (although the degree to which is largely separated by strain-- some actually look really vigorous). I'm hopeful that we can cull the straggly ones and try to treat with these products to control the aphids before flipping within a week... then cut out use of the systemic Bayer and rely on Botanigard soaks(which can be used up to the day of harvest) , and Evergreen, which can be used some into flower. Anyone tried these products? Then we will bleach and try to reset the room fully.. this is the hope anyways. thanks again yall, I'll let you know how it go.
Max

 

[Mountain]

With a nice Sour Dog stud crossed to Madness it could be epic. REv got a sample of Sub's vegan grown Madness and said some nice old school genetics buried in there. Kick up the potency and flavor a bit and look out!

 

[ECtraveler]

one of my all time favorite purples
Blackberry Kush x WMD