Are Growers More Of The Loner Type?

[Strainhunter]

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It's not normal to not socialize with people.

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What's "normal" these days anyway!?!?!

(Just because the majority of people do something - does that define being "normal"?)



The only things I have/do are #7 & 8 on this list.

Where I live we don't even have cell phone availability.

 

[headiez247]

Dont feel bad,i didnt get one either. Answered many threads and a member for awhile, but no pics= no dice apparentely.

Eh I have plenty of pics and didn't get one either. We'll form our own get together but this time it will be in Hawaii not Vegas- gotta one up them of course lol.

 

[headiez247]

Does anybody else notice that people become envious of you while despising you at the same time? I always here comments like, "All right, I have to go to work unlike you fucker! You just get to do nothing all day. I wish I can sit there and do nothing all day"

Yeah, I do nothing?! Wtf, growing is hard work sometimes. I engineer controlled environments. I have ran commercial ops. During the dry season I am a heavy equipment operator for an engineering contractor. I will work 10-12 hour days and come back to work in the garden. Yeah, I don't have to work. I wouldn't know shit about "work". I guess because I dont get to work at 9 o'clock and push a pencil or beat on a keyboard all day, and come home hating my life, then what I do doesn't get qualified as work.

My girl just got a menial job at a major corporation making shit wages. She gets pissed all the time because I will be out at the grow all day and she will come home and the house isn't cleaned or something. She will say something like, "I have to work all day and all you do is fuck around with some plants for a few minutes and you can't clean the house?" Wtf, who needs that shit? If they only knew what we did. My grow is 5 miles from my residence, so in order to be environmentally conscience I ride a bicycle to it. Often times I ride to the hydro store to pick something up and then other places. Any given day I will do about 4-8 hours of work and about 10-20 miles of riding.

Revolution is hard work! Fighting Babylon, helping the sick and unfortunate, and also marching to the beat of my own drum. Back in the day it seemed like nobody did this shit, but now with everyone so relaxed you realize that there has always been a lot of us, we were just hiding.

Kind of off topic, but I had to vent about that.

While it certainly isn't a job that requires no work at all, comparing it to a corporate job is a joke.

I don't give a fuck how many hours a day you work in your garden, it will still be 100x better then working a 9-5 working for someone else.

Growers often try to defend their practice by stressing how much work they need to do. For one, given your lack of taxes and profit margin, I'd say you shouldn't have a right to bitch regardless of the time required.

Saying that you have to go biking once in a while doesn't really help your case. You know how many people work in a concrete box and would DIE to go on a bike ride, let alone going on a bike ride for a real reason that contributes to your wealth?

Go do three 12 hour per day shifts in a row on a movie set for $8 an hour (before taxes) then come back and say that the real world people don't have a right to bitch about you being able to work in your garden alone, in boxers, blazing whenever you want.

 

[Mindful]

"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."

~ Friedrich Nietzsche

 

[Mr Jay]

Yeah I'm a loner. Always have been. I can't seem to get along with people and most I wouldn't waste the time on anyway. I have a small group of friends that I see in person, but they are the exception to the human race. Good people. I find the only reason I can even get along with most growers is the fact we share the same obsession, that and most people won't sit still for a five hour m-scale conversation. Sometimes when I go to leave the house I catch myself pacing back and forth behind the door. It's not that I don't like other people, I'm just socially anxious and want to be left alone. I was one of those poor kids that got shoved full of pills (uppers, downers, anti-psychotics, beta blockers) and I didn't even need them! I think it messed my head up real good. I know for a fact it's why I got into cannabis. I thought all drugs made people feel horrible and sick until I found our wonderful little friend. So fuck the general public and the FDA, I'll be in my backyard turning soil and brewing compost tea. Oh, and on here with you fine folk

 

[Weed-Luver]

awww, don't feel bad mayn. life is clickey like that. you gotta get in where you fit in. but yeah. pics do a lot. as soon as someone peaks my interest I check their journal. It's about the only way to know who is for real, all these yummy wannabes out there.

that's what sucks..i started a grow thread but bcuz of the state i live in with such a big erradication program i and am sure others who come here face the same fear...i want to talk to other growers so bad just to feel i have something in common with someone..but damn, do i really need to compromise my security..
i mean i even feel kinda f-ed up here..if i lived back in co still i am sure i would have no probs doing a grow thread, but this southern state really has a hard-on for finding growers..

 

[whodare]

Growers often try to defend their practice by stressing how much work they need to do. For one, given your lack of taxes and profit margin, I'd say you shouldn't have a right to bitch regardless of the time required.

to this i would say, a large grow does require a fair amount of work during the grow and a lot of work at the end and beginning. And when i can sell weed openly on the market without having to worry about the feds, or jackers because of the law or artificial inflation then my margin will go down....

 

[TruthOrLie]

Loner and introvert well before growing or smoking. I can be very social, but nothing I present, no face I show is truley REAL.
My definition of a friend is tough for most to understand ( not most of u I c )- a friend is someone you call call with a bad problem anytime day or night. All they want to know is where and what to bring.
I never understood my gay brothers n sisters having a big parade to cellabrate coming out of the closet( sorry my bad). As a legal caregiver and patient I get IT now. I WANT MY FREAKIN PARADE!! It's assless chaps for my.
Great thread.Great site. Nice to b ourselves A?

See I dunno about that. Maybe its people's definition of "friend"

My idea of a friend would be someone who never calls and I never need to call for help with a bad problem.

When times are good we can come together and share a bbq and discuss current events like nuclear energy disasters and tsunamis.

but then they smoke my herbs and I realize I'd be more content arguing with strangers on IC and smoking my own.

ROLL YOUR OWN REVOLUTION.

 

[BongRipkenJR.]

While it certainly isn't a job that requires no work at all, comparing it to a corporate job is a joke.

I don't give a fuck how many hours a day you work in your garden, it will still be 100x better then working a 9-5 working for someone else.

Growers often try to defend their practice by stressing how much work they need to do. For one, given your lack of taxes and profit margin, I'd say you shouldn't have a right to bitch regardless of the time required.

Saying that you have to go biking once in a while doesn't really help your case. You know how many people work in a concrete box and would DIE to go on a bike ride, let alone going on a bike ride for a real reason that contributes to your wealth?

Go do three 12 hour per day shifts in a row on a movie set for $8 an hour (before taxes) then come back and say that the real world people don't have a right to bitch about you being able to work in your garden alone, in boxers, blazing whenever you want.

Yeah, the profit margin in California isn't that great anymore. However, I really don't know too many people that want to give up their job to be a pot grower. A lot of stigma and stress comes with this job. I have worked plenty of 12-16 hour days. Hell I ran haul truck on a 13% grade 10' wide downhill road for 12-14 hours a day 3 months straight, with no breaks or days off. I know about hard work. Im just talking about assholes that tell me I do nothing when I do plenty. This used to be supplemental, but due to construction taking a dive, it is what I have to rely on.

 

[In~Plain~Site]

What's "normal" these days anyway!?!?!

(Just because the majority of people do something - does that define being "normal"?)

The appearance of propriety, whatever that may be for the area you live in.
I wasn't attempting to define 'normal'

I do so enjoy the dichotomy, I think I may be a gemini or bipolar or just good at multitasking

 

[Tonatiuh]

loner fasho,i dont make "new friends" i have a certain circle ive been runnin with for 15+ years. new faces are too curious for me...i dont keep ANYONE around me tht i would ever have to second guess,if i dont believe in you 100 % i dont need you around me.
i dont fuck with broke ass mf's...too much jealousy,peeps always want what the next person has,id rather be around peeps tht can afford to go get it.

have to say though,i do have some F.A.M. and friends here at IC tht i have met and consider in my circle,also have a few more i would like to meet up w and smoke out...you know who you are.
peace-T-

 

[BashertofCyndi]

While it certainly isn't a job that requires no work at all, comparing it to a corporate job is a joke.

I don't give a fuck how many hours a day you work in your garden, it will still be 100x better then working a 9-5 working for someone else.

Growers often try to defend their practice by stressing how much work they need to do. For one, given your lack of taxes and profit margin, I'd say you shouldn't have a right to bitch regardless of the time required.

Saying that you have to go biking once in a while doesn't really help your case. You know how many people work in a concrete box and would DIE to go on a bike ride, let alone going on a bike ride for a real reason that contributes to your wealth?

Go do three 12 hour per day shifts in a row on a movie set for $8 an hour (before taxes) then come back and say that the real world people don't have a right to bitch about you being able to work in your garden alone, in boxers, blazing whenever you want.

Just because I enjoy my job dont mean it's not as hard as sombody else's job that they cant stand.

And -- NOBODYS GOT A RITE TO BITCH BOUT ME BEIN ABLE TO DO MY JOB IN MY FUKKIN BOXERS. NOBODYS GOT A RITE TO BITCH BOUT ANY WAY I DO MY JOB.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

i guess im spoiled because we are in a med state and almost everyone i know grows or sells and everyone is 420 friendly.....but some of you guys who cling to being loners need to change that shit! i know the feeling for sure....a nice quiet evening at the house with your smoke and no one to bother you, sounds appealing, but i go stir crazy after a few nights.

everytime ive decided to say fuck it and go out, good shit usually happens, and i tell myself to get out more...you only live once! you wanna be 70 years old and look back on yourlife and all you have are nights at home by yourself in solitude? that shit is depressing!! im not saying go out and show everyone your grow and tell everyone you grow weed...if you live in non medical state than security is necessary, but doesnt mean you cant pretend your not a grower, go out and do some shit. one of my best friends died at 24 and ive lost lots of younger friends..you gotta LIVE LIFE while you are still breathing...

Nah. I don't agree with really any of that. I don't think growing is hard work at all. It takes a set of balls and some initiative to get going, but that's about it. Definitely the easiest thing I've ever done for money. McDonalds was much harder, seriously.

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i havent worked McDs but ive worked some pretty shitty jobs in janitorial and warehouse stocking...and growing weed aint no cakewalk. yea its easy to fill up the res, water, etc, but most of the hard shit comes from the daily decisions you gotta make as the manager of this project. small little things can totally fuck your crop up if you arent using your brain. cleaning toilets, stocking TVs, you dont gotta analyze much, its just meaningless labor task, the main culprit boredom.

marijuana growing's main culprit is...if you fuck up you lose your money! and those decisions cant just be taught many times they have to be learned. easily overlooked decisions can have a huge impact on your crop and bottom line...forgetting to do something right can cost you hundreds or thousands of dollars...every crop some new problem arises that needs to be fixed and $$ needs to be spent..

last night i had a brain fart and my reservoir flooded at 4am...so there i am scrubbing the floors and thinking...this shit fucking sucks sometimes! and dont even get me started on the trimming/curing/processsing part of growing...that shit alone is a job, especially with no helpers.

but i cannot deny, the freedom of running your own operation, not having to report to a 9-5, being able to dictate your own pace of life somewhat, is definately what makes growing light years better than a a 9-5...it makes all the trimming, mold, flooded reservoirs, parking lot transactions, and soil dump runs worth it...

 

[Donald Trump]

ok lets all go to starbucks and log on tweeter and eat muffins and tell everyoen we are pro bloggers

 

[whodare]

you are lucky to be where you are 215...

people for the most part are fake as shit...

id rather have a few close friends that would do anything for me than a horde of friends that are always too busy...

im extremely loyal and honest to my freinds and fam and expect the same in return, most cant hang...

i also trust people too much too fast, maybe im naive but i love my brothers and sisters of the world and have learned that secrets and lies are worse than truths always, therefore i must take precautions meeting new people in this world cause ive been in the "slammer" it aint no fucking joke...

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^yea the areas good, but im not saying i dont exercise security cautions....most of my friends live in a city across the bridge from me. they never venture out this way...so when i want to hang out its usually me driving to go see them. i keep my grow and broker business as seperate as possible from any social shit.....only my brother and grow mentor are allowed to see my setup...

and yea dont go out and just socialize with anybody...judge their character first. i shake hands with alot of people that i will never do any kind of business with, or even talk business with. thats just how it goes...a friend of a friend recently just went to jail because he trusted a girl too much, she smoked some crank, got crazy, called the cops and claimed she was assaulted. guy goes to jail over some bullshit! he should have just stayed in the house hes one of "those" people....lots of thugs, rippers, and plain ol idiots out there...gotta use your instinct to weed through the bullshitters...

i love the IC family though, everyone here seems to be on the same page about shit so we click together better. i definately am more friendly with my fellow growers than regular folks....

 

[whodare]

IC rock my socks baby,

looks like all of us are loners in different ways....

some lead double lifes, some hide in the privacy and warmth of the HPS glow...

either way you look at it a brotherhood is what it is, we share a sense of societies ignorant disapproval of our chosen profession and we must all take steps to make sure we get sleep in our own beds at night...

 

[headiez247]

I have worked plenty of 12-16 hour days. Hell I ran haul truck on a 13% grade 10' wide downhill road for 12-14 hours a day 3 months straight, with no breaks or days off. I know about hard work. Im just talking about assholes that tell me I do nothing when I do plenty. This used to be supplemental, but due to construction taking a dive, it is what I have to rely on.

Agreed, and don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying it isn't work. I've been on both sides of the line. Growing a medium/large grow is not kids play and does take time and energy and repetition.

I just know personally, I would much rather go back to growing full time vs a corporate job.

 

[bakelite]

Count me in as another loner/grower Like many here I lead a bit of a double life and ICMag is one of my very few outlets

-bakelite