This is what i'd do.
Michigan State Police Downloading Cell Phone Data
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Darkstarlive
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How much are we willing to take?
I had that arguement last year when they tasered a kid running on the baseball field during the game.
The old "you never know what He might have done, He could've had a gun" This kid, and he was just a kid, was running away from the fatass cop chasing him and never at any point did he turn towards the cop or make any threating gesture to anyone. So they shot him in the back with a taser gun for a moronic prank that has been done many times before. And shockingly a majority of people said he deserved it. Whats next, shoot to kill and and it will all be acceptable because "you never know what they might have done"
Bullshit.
Ole Ben said it best, and I paraphrase, Those who would sacrifice any liberties for security deserve neither.
Good luck to us all.
I had that arguement last year when they tasered a kid running on the baseball field during the game.
The old "you never know what He might have done, He could've had a gun" This kid, and he was just a kid, was running away from the fatass cop chasing him and never at any point did he turn towards the cop or make any threating gesture to anyone. So they shot him in the back with a taser gun for a moronic prank that has been done many times before. And shockingly a majority of people said he deserved it. Whats next, shoot to kill and and it will all be acceptable because "you never know what they might have done"
Bullshit.
Ole Ben said it best, and I paraphrase, Those who would sacrifice any liberties for security deserve neither.
Good luck to us all.
trichrome101
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I agree the feds have stomped our rights and our liberties into the ground.But its our own fault and yah the time to start a revolution has long since passed but it is still that time even to day.Phones? man they can track you anytime they want to,(if they catch wind of you)and all text are tripple logged,1,on your phone,2,at the company and 3,key words chosen randomly by the feds.They also use money to track you as well,those strips you find in the american bills,perfect size for a tracking device.Just ask those kids in seattle,youll have to wait or them to get out of prison of course.
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lol you think the strips in bills are tracking devices? clearly you're smoking some good shit this 4/20.
and that is why this is super shitty, you have multiple contacts that probably (in LEO's eyes) lead to weed, MMJ or not. The people you have in your phone, well they probably have other people on their phone, if you can retrieve all data that was ever sent/received on any of those phones, doncha think there might be a hair of 'incriminating' evidence somewhere down the line? I bet with one dumb highschool kid's smart phone, you could get the number of 10+ different dealers by the end of the day by just following the data on each phone from one bust to the next.
every single time I have been stopped by cops (except one time I rolled a stop sign on a skateboard, yeah I got stopped for that years ago, dumb) they have tried to access my phone. I was young n dumb and didn't password it one time, every single time since its been passworded. This technology negates that, quickly.
It might not be in widespread use yet, but do you think LEO is slowing down its information gathering or increasing it these days? Technology is not a dealers friend.
and that is why this is super shitty, you have multiple contacts that probably (in LEO's eyes) lead to weed, MMJ or not. The people you have in your phone, well they probably have other people on their phone, if you can retrieve all data that was ever sent/received on any of those phones, doncha think there might be a hair of 'incriminating' evidence somewhere down the line? I bet with one dumb highschool kid's smart phone, you could get the number of 10+ different dealers by the end of the day by just following the data on each phone from one bust to the next.
every single time I have been stopped by cops (except one time I rolled a stop sign on a skateboard, yeah I got stopped for that years ago, dumb) they have tried to access my phone. I was young n dumb and didn't password it one time, every single time since its been passworded. This technology negates that, quickly.
It might not be in widespread use yet, but do you think LEO is slowing down its information gathering or increasing it these days? Technology is not a dealers friend.
supersmallgiant
Member
Glenn Beck touched on this today. He said they only have 3 of these scanners in the whole state fwiw. They ask for your phone but remember its your choice whether you hand it over...
BongRipkenJR.
Active member
hahaha... but they'll bust you on indecent exposure br0
Its not indecent if its my own dick on my own phone. If they ask about all the pictures of my dick, I will tell them that I was taking extenze and just trying to see if my dick is looking digger day by day. Just documenting my experience with penis enhancing pills is all.
This just in today ...a couple of security researchers just happened to find this store -file in the Apple iPhones OS, that tracks & stores & time stamps everywhere the users been that no one knew about till today...anyone that has access to the iPhone can retrieve all locational data for up to a year...seems nobody knew ???
(not found on Google's Androids)
iPhone keeps record of everywhere you go
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears
Privacy fears raised as researchers reveal file on iPhone that stores location coordinates and timestamps of owner's movements
Security researchers have discovered that Apple's iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner's computer when the two are synchronised.
The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone's recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner's movements using a simple program.
For some phones, there could be almost a year's worth of data stored, as the recording of data seems to have started with Apple's iOS 4 update to the phone's operating system, released in June 2010.
"Apple has made it possible for almost anybody – a jealous spouse, a private detective – with access to your phone or computer to get detailed information about where you've been," said Pete Warden, one of the researchers.
Only the iPhone records the user's location in this way, say Warden and Alasdair Allan, the data scientists who discovered the file and are presenting their findings at the Where 2.0 conference in San Francisco on Wednesday. "Alasdair has looked for similar tracking code in [Google's] Android phones and couldn't find any," said Warden. "We haven't come across any instances of other phone manufacturers doing this."
Simon Davies, director of the pressure group Privacy International, said: "This is a worrying discovery. Location is one of the most sensitive elements in anyone's life – just think where people go in the evening. The existence of that data creates a real threat to privacy. The absence of notice to users or any control option can only stem from an ignorance about privacy at the design stage."
Warden and Allan point out that the file is moved onto new devices when an old one is replaced: "Apple might have new features in mind that require a history of your location, but that's our specualtion. The fact that [the file] is transferred across [to a new iPhone or iPad] when you migrate is evidence that the data-gathering isn't accidental." But they said it does not seem to be transmitted to Apple itself.
Map shows location data collected from an iPhone that had been used in the southwest of England Although mobile networks already record phones' locations, it is only available to the police and other recognised organisations following a court order under the Regulation of Investigatory Power Act. Standard phones do not record location data.
MPs in 2009 criticised the search engine giant Google for its "Latitude" system, which allowed people to enable their mobile to give out details of their location to trusted contacts. At the time MPs said that Latitude "could substantially endanger user privacy", but Google pointed out that users had to specifically choose to make their data available.
The iPhone system, by contrast, appears to record the data whether or not the user agrees. Apple declined to comment on why the file is created or whether it can be disabled.
Warden and Allan have set up a web page which answers questions about the file, and created a simple downloadable application to let Apple users check for themselves what location data the phone is retaining. The Guardian has confirmed that 3G-enabled devices including the iPad also retain the data and copy it to the owner's computer.
If someone were to steal an iPhone and "jailbreak" it, giving them direct access to the files it contains, they could extract the location database directly. Alternatively, anyone with direct access to a user's computer could run the application and see a visualisation of their movements. Encrypting data on the computer is one way to protect against it, though that still leaves the file on the phone.
Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at the security company Sophos, said: "If the data isn't required for anything, then it shouldn't store the location. And it doesn't need to keep an archive on your machine of where you've been." He suggested that Apple might be hoping that it would yield data for future mobile advertising targeted by location, although he added: "I tend to subscribe to cockup rather than conspiracy on things like this – I don't think Apple is really trying to monitor where users are."
The data inside the file containing the location and time information. This is used to plot the map above The location file came to light when Warden and Allan were looking for a source of mobile data. "We'd been discussing doing a visualisation of mobile data, and while Alasdair was researching into what was available, he discovered this file. At first we weren't sure how much data was there, but after we dug further and visualised the extracted data, it became clear that there was a scary amount of detail on our movements," Warden said.
They have blogged about their discovery at O'Reilly's Radar site, noting that "why this data is stored and how Apple intends to use it — or not — are important questions that need to be explored."
The pair of data scientists have collaborated on a number of data visualisations, including a map of radiation levels in Japan for The Guardian. They are developing a Data Science Toolkit for dealing with location data.
Davies said that the discovery of the file indicated that Apple had failed to take users' privacy seriously.
Apple can legitimately claim that it has permission to collect the data: near the end of the 15,200-word terms and conditions for its iTunes program, used to synchronise with iPhones, iPods and iPads, is an 86-word paragraph about "location-based services".
It says that "Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based products and services. For example, we may share geographic location with application providers when you opt in to their location services."
(not found on Google's Androids)
iPhone keeps record of everywhere you go
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears
Privacy fears raised as researchers reveal file on iPhone that stores location coordinates and timestamps of owner's movements
Security researchers have discovered that Apple's iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner's computer when the two are synchronised.
The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone's recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner's movements using a simple program.
For some phones, there could be almost a year's worth of data stored, as the recording of data seems to have started with Apple's iOS 4 update to the phone's operating system, released in June 2010.
"Apple has made it possible for almost anybody – a jealous spouse, a private detective – with access to your phone or computer to get detailed information about where you've been," said Pete Warden, one of the researchers.
Only the iPhone records the user's location in this way, say Warden and Alasdair Allan, the data scientists who discovered the file and are presenting their findings at the Where 2.0 conference in San Francisco on Wednesday. "Alasdair has looked for similar tracking code in [Google's] Android phones and couldn't find any," said Warden. "We haven't come across any instances of other phone manufacturers doing this."
Simon Davies, director of the pressure group Privacy International, said: "This is a worrying discovery. Location is one of the most sensitive elements in anyone's life – just think where people go in the evening. The existence of that data creates a real threat to privacy. The absence of notice to users or any control option can only stem from an ignorance about privacy at the design stage."
Warden and Allan point out that the file is moved onto new devices when an old one is replaced: "Apple might have new features in mind that require a history of your location, but that's our specualtion. The fact that [the file] is transferred across [to a new iPhone or iPad] when you migrate is evidence that the data-gathering isn't accidental." But they said it does not seem to be transmitted to Apple itself.
Map shows location data collected from an iPhone that had been used in the southwest of England Although mobile networks already record phones' locations, it is only available to the police and other recognised organisations following a court order under the Regulation of Investigatory Power Act. Standard phones do not record location data.
MPs in 2009 criticised the search engine giant Google for its "Latitude" system, which allowed people to enable their mobile to give out details of their location to trusted contacts. At the time MPs said that Latitude "could substantially endanger user privacy", but Google pointed out that users had to specifically choose to make their data available.
The iPhone system, by contrast, appears to record the data whether or not the user agrees. Apple declined to comment on why the file is created or whether it can be disabled.
Warden and Allan have set up a web page which answers questions about the file, and created a simple downloadable application to let Apple users check for themselves what location data the phone is retaining. The Guardian has confirmed that 3G-enabled devices including the iPad also retain the data and copy it to the owner's computer.
If someone were to steal an iPhone and "jailbreak" it, giving them direct access to the files it contains, they could extract the location database directly. Alternatively, anyone with direct access to a user's computer could run the application and see a visualisation of their movements. Encrypting data on the computer is one way to protect against it, though that still leaves the file on the phone.
Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at the security company Sophos, said: "If the data isn't required for anything, then it shouldn't store the location. And it doesn't need to keep an archive on your machine of where you've been." He suggested that Apple might be hoping that it would yield data for future mobile advertising targeted by location, although he added: "I tend to subscribe to cockup rather than conspiracy on things like this – I don't think Apple is really trying to monitor where users are."
The data inside the file containing the location and time information. This is used to plot the map above The location file came to light when Warden and Allan were looking for a source of mobile data. "We'd been discussing doing a visualisation of mobile data, and while Alasdair was researching into what was available, he discovered this file. At first we weren't sure how much data was there, but after we dug further and visualised the extracted data, it became clear that there was a scary amount of detail on our movements," Warden said.
They have blogged about their discovery at O'Reilly's Radar site, noting that "why this data is stored and how Apple intends to use it — or not — are important questions that need to be explored."
The pair of data scientists have collaborated on a number of data visualisations, including a map of radiation levels in Japan for The Guardian. They are developing a Data Science Toolkit for dealing with location data.
Davies said that the discovery of the file indicated that Apple had failed to take users' privacy seriously.
Apple can legitimately claim that it has permission to collect the data: near the end of the 15,200-word terms and conditions for its iTunes program, used to synchronise with iPhones, iPods and iPads, is an 86-word paragraph about "location-based services".
It says that "Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based products and services. For example, we may share geographic location with application providers when you opt in to their location services."
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wiseone
LEO and The Government ain't stupid. These technologies take time to implement and it's been going on for years. They know exactly what they are doing and unfortunately a number of folks, growers included, are to damn cocky to think that they can't be caught.
Hate to say it, but all that 'cockiness' just helps to take away any heat from me. Wake up folks this is NOT a game, or will it take the sound of steel on steel for you to realize that?
Hate to say it, but all that 'cockiness' just helps to take away any heat from me. Wake up folks this is NOT a game, or will it take the sound of steel on steel for you to realize that?
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vonforne
Here in the EU I bought my phone from a Coffee vendor. 19.95€. I buy phone cards once a month......no contract and this phone is reeeeeal basic. Not registered in my name or anything. When I was in America I bought the Wal-mart phone.....same thing there also.
Dumb phone. And I rotate the phone chip often.
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Dumb phone. And I rotate the phone chip often.
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Darkstarlive
Member
The burners, as they're called, require you to call from a landline to activate. So, unless you have access to a landline that can't be tracked back to you its still a security issue. Not impossible though.
what??
what??
no no no no.
if you are inside the USA, tracfones CAN be anonymously purchased and activated.
just goto ur local walmart and buy the phone for <$20, u then go online at a public wifi hotspot and when u are activating and registering the new phone online and it has fields for you to fill in all ur info SCROLL ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE AND CLICK "SKIP THIS STEP"
u are taken to a page where all it requires is to enter a code that came with the phone inside the package. your burner is now ready to rock...
what??
no no no no.
if you are inside the USA, tracfones CAN be anonymously purchased and activated.
just goto ur local walmart and buy the phone for <$20, u then go online at a public wifi hotspot and when u are activating and registering the new phone online and it has fields for you to fill in all ur info SCROLL ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE AND CLICK "SKIP THIS STEP"
u are taken to a page where all it requires is to enter a code that came with the phone inside the package. your burner is now ready to rock...
BongRipkenJR.
Active member
Some of y'all think I am joking, but I actually have a decoy HTC smart phone with just a little bit of music on it. It has no texts or calls or logged gps locations. As soon as I hear about California doing this I am taking dick pics. Until then, that phone will be G rated though.
no no no no.
if you are inside the USA, tracfones CAN be anonymously purchased and activated.
just goto ur local walmart and buy the phone for <$20, u then go online at a public wifi hotspot and when u are activating and registering the new phone online and it has fields for you to fill in all ur info SCROLL ALL THE WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE AND CLICK "SKIP THIS STEP"
u are taken to a page where all it requires is to enter a code that came with the phone inside the package. your burner is now ready to rock...
Yep, this is what I do...or use someones wifi in the area to activate the burner...
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Pay phone?
The company that makes the downloader has a website. Google "UFED". It has vids on how it works. It also has a HUUUUUGE list of phones it works on. Practically every goddamn one on the planet. Your dumb phone may not have GPS but it has an address book, call logs, probably texts, and other basic stuff. No phone is safe from this thing.
What I am doin now is legal,and moral.My Mother said so. I do not fear LEO (much),Maybe they should fear me. I've paid my dues n made my bones..
Locally, cops are sendin rippers to B n E a 'suspect' house. Then snitch out what they find. Omni Mors Aequate
Locally, cops are sendin rippers to B n E a 'suspect' house. Then snitch out what they find. Omni Mors Aequate
