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RetroGrow

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This is really outrageous! Beyond GPS!

( iPhone keeps record of everywhere you go)

Privacy fears raised as researchers reveal file on iPhone that stores location coordinates and timestamps of owner's movements.

Security researchers have discovered that Apple's iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner's computer when the two are synchronised.

The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone's recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner's movements using a simple program.

For some phones, there could be almost a year's worth of data stored, as the recording of data seems to have started with Apple's iOS 4 update to the phone's operating system, released in June 2010.

"Apple has made it possible for almost anybody – a jealous spouse, a private detective – with access to your phone or computer to get detailed information about where you've been," said Pete Warden, one of the researchers.

Only the iPhone records the user's location in this way, say Warden and Alasdair Allan, the data scientists who discovered the file and are presenting their findings at the Where 2.0 conference in San Francisco on Wednesday. "Alasdair has looked for similar tracking code in [Google's] Android phones and couldn't find any," said Warden. "We haven't come across any instances of other phone manufacturers doing this."

Simon Davies, director of the pressure group Privacy International, said: "This is a worrying discovery. Location is one of the most sensitive elements in anyone's life – just think where people go in the evening. The existence of that data creates a real threat to privacy. The absence of notice to users or any control option can only stem from an ignorance about privacy at the design stage."

Warden and Allan point out that the file is moved onto new devices when an old one is replaced: "Apple might have new features in mind that require a history of your location, but that's our specualtion. The fact that [the file] is transferred across [to a new iPhone or iPad] when you migrate is evidence that the data-gathering isn't accidental." But they said it does not seem to be transmitted to Apple itself.
iphone-data-map Map shows location data collected from an iPhone that had been used in the southwest of England

Although mobile networks already record phones' locations, it is only available to the police and other recognised organisations following a court order under the Regulation of Investigatory Power Act. Standard phones do not record location data.

MPs in 2009 criticised the search engine giant Google for its "Latitude" system, which allowed people to enable their mobile to give out details of their location to trusted contacts. At the time MPs said that Latitude "could substantially endanger user privacy", but Google pointed out that users had to specifically choose to make their data available.

The iPhone system, by contrast, appears to record the data whether or not the user agrees. Apple declined to comment on why the file is created or whether it can be disabled.

Warden and Allan have set up a web page which answers questions about the file, and created a simple downloadable application to let Apple users check for themselves what location data the phone is retaining. The Guardian has confirmed that 3G-enabled devices including the iPad also retain the data and copy it to the owner's computer.

If someone were to steal an iPhone and "jailbreak" it, giving them direct access to the files it contains, they could extract the location database directly. Alternatively, anyone with direct access to a user's computer could run the application and see a visualisation of their movements. Encrypting data on the computer is one way to protect against it, though that still leaves the file on the phone.

Graham Cluley, senior technology consultant at the security company Sophos, said: "If the data isn't required for anything, then it shouldn't store the location. And it doesn't need to keep an archive on your machine of where you've been." He suggested that Apple might be hoping that it would yield data for future mobile advertising targeted by location, although he added: "I tend to subscribe to cockup rather than conspiracy on things like this – I don't think Apple is really trying to monitor where users are."
iphone data The data inside the file containing the location and time information. This is used to plot the map above

The location file came to light when Warden and Allan were looking for a source of mobile data. "We'd been discussing doing a visualisation of mobile data, and while Alasdair was researching into what was available, he discovered this file. At first we weren't sure how much data was there, but after we dug further and visualised the extracted data, it became clear that there was a scary amount of detail on our movements," Warden said.

They have blogged about their discovery at O'Reilly's Radar site, noting that "why this data is stored and how Apple intends to use it — or not — are important questions that need to be explored."

The pair of data scientists have collaborated on a number of data visualisations, including a map of radiation levels in Japan for The Guardian. They are developing a Data Science Toolkit for dealing with location data.

Davies said that the discovery of the file indicated that Apple had failed to take users' privacy seriously.

Apple can legitimately claim that it has permission to collect the data: near the end of the 15,200-word terms and conditions for its iTunes program, used to synchronise with iPhones, iPods and iPads, is an 86-word paragraph about "location-based services".

It says that "Apple and our partners and licensees may collect, use, and share precise location data, including the real-time geographic location of your Apple computer or device. This location data is collected anonymously in a form that does not personally identify you and is used by Apple and our partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based products and services. For example, we may share geographic location with application providers when you opt in to their location services."

Just another reason why I would never own an Iphone or anything else by Apple. They are evil.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/apr/20/iphone-tracking-prompts-privacy-fears
 

Bionic

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I don't really see what all of the fuss is about. If you were busted or LEO were trying to make a case against you, they can extract info from ANY GPS phone, not just iPhones. They can even extract triangulated tower info from so-called "dumb phones." Got a GPS device in your car? Same deal. If they were so inclined, I'm sure they could turn on your webcam, remotely. Also, your computer is full of all sorts of shit that can and will be used against you if it comes to that. Did you really think any of your digital devices were secure?
 

RetroGrow

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I don't really see what all of the fuss is about. If you were busted or LEO were trying to make a case against you, they can extract info from ANY GPS phone, not just iPhones. They can even extract triangulated tower info from so-called "dumb phones." Got a GPS device in your car? Same deal. If they were so inclined, I'm sure they could turn on your webcam, remotely. Also, your computer is full of all sorts of shit that can and will be used against you if it comes to that. Did you really think any of your digital devices were secure?

You missed the point of the article or didn't read the whole thing. This stores records on the phone going back for a year, in a file, recording your every move with timestamps, which can then be hacked by anyone, not just Leo. No other phone does this. Your spouse can track your every move. A detective can track you. Leo needs a warrant to track you.
Anyone with minor computer skills can pull that file off your phone or your computer. They can use it, sell it, distribute it.
So, NO, it's not like every other phone at all.
It's the ONLY phone that does this.
But thanks for the troll. :wave:
 

Bionic

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No, RG. I got the point. What I'm trying to say is this is not new. Welcome to 2007. They state this right in the contract. But give it time. There'll be an app for that. :) BTW, why are you so defensive? Is an opposing view so hurtful to you that you need to resort to name-calling? I'm not saying you're an asshole but this would be a big red flag.
 

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iPhone Keeps Record of Everywhere You Go

iPhone Keeps Record of Everywhere You Go

Charles Arthur
London Guardian
Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Security researchers have discovered that Apple‘s iPhone keeps track of where you go – and saves every detail of it to a secret file on the device which is then copied to the owner’s computer when the two are synchronised.

The file contains the latitude and longitude of the phone’s recorded coordinates along with a timestamp, meaning that anyone who stole the phone or the computer could discover details about the owner’s movements using a simple program.

For some phones, there could be almost a year’s worth of data stored, as the recording of data seems to have started with Apple’s iOS 4 update to the phone’s operating system, released in June 2010.

“Apple has made it possible for almost anybody – a jealous spouse, a private detective – with access to your phone or computer to get detailed information about where you’ve been,” said Pete Warden, one of the researchers.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/iphone-keeps-record-of-everywhere-you-go.html

Good on Apple for helping big brother spy on the useless eaters. Why would they want to secretly track peoples movements and record them? Same reason Google was caught scooping up wifi data including passwords, credit card numbers and bank details in their google street view cars. They are a bunch of control freak, fascist war mongers and we are all the enemy!

Please wake up to the level of corruption and tyranny being implemented right under our noses.

Stay safe and grow hard! :wave:

ps. It is also said by some that the iphone snaps a pic everytime you close an ap...
 

RetroGrow

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No, RG. I got the point. What I'm trying to say is this is not new. Welcome to 2007. They state this right in the contract. But give it time. There'll be an app for that. :) BTW, why are you so defensive? Is an opposing view so hurtful to you that you need to resort to name-calling? I'm not saying you're an asshole but this would be a big red flag.

Seems like you are still at it for some reason.
You refuted my post saying that this is nothing new, but in fact it is new. It's the only phone that does this. I'm well aware that any cell phone can be tracked along with GPS devices, etc., but this phone takes it to a new level, storing a years worth of information to a file, which can be hacked by anyone. Phone get's stolen?
They've got your every move for the past year, and your contacts, and when and where you met up with any of them. No other phone does this, but I guess Steve just has to know.
:wave:
 

dontstepongrass

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this is the reason i have been against smart phones since day 1...

if the phone has "gps navigation" capabilities for the end user (you) just imagine what the cell phone company (and therefore LEO) has access to...


shit, i don't even take my burner phone with me into the bush...
 

kobi93

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Combined with the download machines the Michigan cops have also, it's a scary time to be using any of these devices. Time to buy disposables, use them for a month, throw them out and buy another.
 

SilverSurfer_OG

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This seems to part of the Real ID rollout....its there to monitor everybodies movements in real time. This will include traffic cams that scan all number plates (and charge you per mile) also in real time. Alex Jones has been warning about this coming down the road for years. But of course he's just a crazy cook who seems to get lucky with his predictions... either that or he actually reads the governments own documents that outlines all this big brother shit.

All part of the slave training.

Peaceful non compliance is the only way out. Such as refusing to pay taxes...
 

pearlemae

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Saw today that Senator Al Franken and another sen who's name slips me have asked Steve Jobs WTF!!!!! Why are iphones and ipads keeping a record of your movements, no answer from Jobs yet. GO AL!!!!!!!
:smokey::bongsmi::smoweed:
 

grapeman

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You missed the point of the article or didn't read the whole thing. This stores records on the phone going back for a year, in a file, recording your every move with timestamps, which can then be hacked by anyone, not just Leo. No other phone does this. Your spouse can track your every move. A detective can track you. Leo needs a warrant to track you.
Anyone with minor computer skills can pull that file off your phone or your computer. They can use it, sell it, distribute it.
So, NO, it's not like every other phone at all.
It's the ONLY phone that does this.
But thanks for the troll. :wave:

Hmmm. So it keeps track of your movements. Big deal. It's not shared with anyone. I downloaded the iPhone Tracker and got a kick out of seeing where I've been over the last 6 months. Big Deal. I didn't share this with anyone.

If you think it such a problem then down load the app to wipe that data file OFF your personal device.

I mean wtf? If you lose your phone and you partake in illegal activities, then you can remotely wipe it also.

If Apple or the carrier were sharing this info then you would have a cause. They don't. Find another cause.
 

grapeman

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Saw today that Senator Al Franken and another sen who's name slips me have asked Steve Jobs WTF!!!!! Why are iphones and ipads keeping a record of your movements, no answer from Jobs yet. GO AL!!!!!!!
:smokey::bongsmi::smoweed:

Franken. The senate clown without a clue.
 

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