Canna Boost Ingredients ?
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where do you get this info from?
testing on a product cost 50k to reverse engineer to see what's in it. I know because I sought out a company as I want to know what they use in there product.
I have also heard to get the benefit of "alfalfa juice" is very minimal. Ive also used alfalfa extracts in veg, and never seen massive growth, nor should I say anyone in the organics section has commented on seeing higher growth rates after using alfalfa / teas ...
I believe someone wrote that canna said part of the cost is from there long fermentation process, I believe it was 6 months, not sure, but I remember it being very long..
also, from there ad, yes it's marketing, but they state these extracts come from the rainforest, but last time I was down there I didn't see no alfalfa fields..
sorry, but I put my chips on it being way more then alfalfa, unless someone can prove to me how they know what's in boost / bio boost
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http://www.ehydroponics.com/blog/triacontanol-increases-yields
Want to increase yields and fruit and flower quality? Then look for products containing tricantonal. Triacontanol is a fatty alcohol also known as melissyl alcohol or myricyl alcohol found in plant cuticle waxes, in beeswax, or in alfalfa meal. Triacontanol stimulates faster growth rates in plants by rapidly increasing the number of basal breaks in the plant. It improves plant growth in almost every aspect of the plant, and it helps promote better root growth, increases fruit and flower size, increases quality and yield of fruits and flowers and improves respiration and photosynthetic activity within the plant. Triacontanol is an active ingredient in may flower enhancement products.
Some products that contain triacontanol are Super Thrive, GreenPlanet Nutrient’s Massive and W-8, Canna’s Boost and Bio-Boost, Advanced Nutrient’s Nirvana and Iguana Juice, as well as Down to Earth’s Alfalfa Meal. Alfalfa meal and can be directly amended to your soil or brewed as a tea. If you want to make an alfalfa tea, use two cups of alfalfa meal to 2.5 gallons of water. Steep the alfalfa meal for 2 to 3 days and water in with your nutrients or add it to your other biological and fungal teas. Alfalfa tea and triacontanol in general is more effective used as a foliar spray. While it can be watered in to the root system, you get a lot more miles using it as a foliar application.
Things to consider when using any nutrient — don’t overdo it. You may be thinking, “I want to use as much of this stuff as possible”, but too much of anything is a bad thing. When using products that contain triacontanol, use the recommended dosage and trust that the company knows their product and dosage rate. Step up your gardening game with tricantonal products and see the results!
Want to increase yields and fruit and flower quality? Then look for products containing tricantonal. Triacontanol is a fatty alcohol also known as melissyl alcohol or myricyl alcohol found in plant cuticle waxes, in beeswax, or in alfalfa meal. Triacontanol stimulates faster growth rates in plants by rapidly increasing the number of basal breaks in the plant. It improves plant growth in almost every aspect of the plant, and it helps promote better root growth, increases fruit and flower size, increases quality and yield of fruits and flowers and improves respiration and photosynthetic activity within the plant. Triacontanol is an active ingredient in may flower enhancement products.
Some products that contain triacontanol are Super Thrive, GreenPlanet Nutrient’s Massive and W-8, Canna’s Boost and Bio-Boost, Advanced Nutrient’s Nirvana and Iguana Juice, as well as Down to Earth’s Alfalfa Meal. Alfalfa meal and can be directly amended to your soil or brewed as a tea. If you want to make an alfalfa tea, use two cups of alfalfa meal to 2.5 gallons of water. Steep the alfalfa meal for 2 to 3 days and water in with your nutrients or add it to your other biological and fungal teas. Alfalfa tea and triacontanol in general is more effective used as a foliar spray. While it can be watered in to the root system, you get a lot more miles using it as a foliar application.
Things to consider when using any nutrient — don’t overdo it. You may be thinking, “I want to use as much of this stuff as possible”, but too much of anything is a bad thing. When using products that contain triacontanol, use the recommended dosage and trust that the company knows their product and dosage rate. Step up your gardening game with tricantonal products and see the results!
Hello RetroGrow, I appreciate your input and as i said to Storm Shadow, it is a true revelation to me that Canna Boost`s "Special Additive" might well be Triacontanol, but is that Canna Boost`s only beneficial ingredient?
What do you think could be missing from the Canna Program when we leave out Canna Boost?,,,What am i missing when i simply miss out Canna Boost?...Would the Canna Program benefit from any available additive not currently offered by the Canna Program?. especially when we leave out the Canna Boost.
I know Canna use Potasium Silicate in there Canna Aqua A&B base formula, but I can already say without question, that the Canna Aqua program benefit`s tremendously from extra Potasium Silicate, but what else is advisable to add into the standard program?
Thankyou for your time.
Hello again Bigcolas. Maybe this can help you achieve better growth. Here are some conclusions i have drawn while running trials with the Canna Aqua program and talking to Canna representatives directly.
I noticed in trials that the PH of Canna Aqua will drop when plants demand elevated PK levels. I noticed this when i attempted to use the Canna program missing a PK additive and also when i have used Canna Vega during the flower cycle. After talking to a Canna representative my thoughts were confirmed.
Canna Aqua is said to be designed to PH fluctuate. To provide the optimal range of available nutrients Canna Aqua will swing between 5.2-6.2,,,The formula is made up so the plants regulate the pH themselves.
The Canna Team advises its customers to use Aqua Vega for the first week of 12/12. As soon as the pH drops towards 5.2 this tells Canna Aqua customers that it is finally time to swap from Canna Vega to Canna Flores. I always find this a lovely moment. I swap the Aqua Vega for the Aqua Flores; set the pH and it stays as stable as possible again and then i see the first signs of fructification.
With "Hard Water", ph values show a tendency to rise after the solution has first been mixed, by balancing the nutrient solution with a lower PH [5.2] more bicarbonate is neutralized and the PH shows less tendency towards rising. In "Soft Water" areas with low bicarbonate content [Osmotic Water] drops in PH value are more likely to occur. This is because "Soft Water" has less PH buffering capacity when compared to "Hard Water" this is because of the lower levels of bicarbonate and this is also the reason in why in "soft water" and osmotic water regions nutrient soloutions must be prepared with a higher PH [5.5-6.2]
PH fluctuation in recirculating systems occurs because waste products from the roots directly effect the nutrient solutions PH Value. This influence is among things, dependent on the plants stage of development, there condition, the nutrient solution`s composition and the water supply. During the Veg stage plants tend to cause the nutrient solutions PH to rise. This happens because at this stage the roots can excrete relative large quantities of elements that increase PH. During the flowering phase the reverse happens. The roots now produce acidic secretion causing the nutrient solutions PH to fall. To a large extent, the nutrient solutions composition determines whether or not the roots excrete predominately alkaline or acidic secretions. By using different nutrient solutions that are customized to the different phases of crop growth you ensure the PH remains as stable as possible.
I sincerely hope this helps improve your returns Bigcolas.
CB
What do you think could be missing from the Canna Program when we leave out Canna Boost?,,,What am i missing when i simply miss out Canna Boost?...Would the Canna Program benefit from any available additive not currently offered by the Canna Program?. especially when we leave out the Canna Boost.
I know Canna use Potasium Silicate in there Canna Aqua A&B base formula, but I can already say without question, that the Canna Aqua program benefit`s tremendously from extra Potasium Silicate, but what else is advisable to add into the standard program?
Thankyou for your time.
Hello again Bigcolas. Maybe this can help you achieve better growth. Here are some conclusions i have drawn while running trials with the Canna Aqua program and talking to Canna representatives directly.
I noticed in trials that the PH of Canna Aqua will drop when plants demand elevated PK levels. I noticed this when i attempted to use the Canna program missing a PK additive and also when i have used Canna Vega during the flower cycle. After talking to a Canna representative my thoughts were confirmed.
Canna Aqua is said to be designed to PH fluctuate. To provide the optimal range of available nutrients Canna Aqua will swing between 5.2-6.2,,,The formula is made up so the plants regulate the pH themselves.
The Canna Team advises its customers to use Aqua Vega for the first week of 12/12. As soon as the pH drops towards 5.2 this tells Canna Aqua customers that it is finally time to swap from Canna Vega to Canna Flores. I always find this a lovely moment. I swap the Aqua Vega for the Aqua Flores; set the pH and it stays as stable as possible again and then i see the first signs of fructification.
With "Hard Water", ph values show a tendency to rise after the solution has first been mixed, by balancing the nutrient solution with a lower PH [5.2] more bicarbonate is neutralized and the PH shows less tendency towards rising. In "Soft Water" areas with low bicarbonate content [Osmotic Water] drops in PH value are more likely to occur. This is because "Soft Water" has less PH buffering capacity when compared to "Hard Water" this is because of the lower levels of bicarbonate and this is also the reason in why in "soft water" and osmotic water regions nutrient soloutions must be prepared with a higher PH [5.5-6.2]
PH fluctuation in recirculating systems occurs because waste products from the roots directly effect the nutrient solutions PH Value. This influence is among things, dependent on the plants stage of development, there condition, the nutrient solution`s composition and the water supply. During the Veg stage plants tend to cause the nutrient solutions PH to rise. This happens because at this stage the roots can excrete relative large quantities of elements that increase PH. During the flowering phase the reverse happens. The roots now produce acidic secretion causing the nutrient solutions PH to fall. To a large extent, the nutrient solutions composition determines whether or not the roots excrete predominately alkaline or acidic secretions. By using different nutrient solutions that are customized to the different phases of crop growth you ensure the PH remains as stable as possible.
I sincerely hope this helps improve your returns Bigcolas.
CB
Both these products have the main active we're discussing...way cheaper...way better
http://www.wetandforget.com/products_triffid.php
I also like
http://www.plantdesigns.com/vitazyme/whatisit.asp
http://www.plantdesigns.com/vitazyme/documents/2003FieldTrialResults.pdf
http://www.wetandforget.com/products_triffid.php
I also like
http://www.plantdesigns.com/vitazyme/whatisit.asp
http://www.plantdesigns.com/vitazyme/documents/2003FieldTrialResults.pdf
Hello again Storm Shadow, your input truly is second to none.
If we supplement the main ingredient, what should we use to supplement the rest of the ingredients in Canna Boost?
It seems to me that Canna Boost somehow increase`s bud growth as if it had added P or K, similar to H&G BudXL, is this correct, or is it not a nutrient at all?
Is it advisable to add AN BigBUD or H&G BudXL to the Full Canna Aqua program [Including Canna Boost],,,what might happen if i did add one of these with Canna Boost, might i see any improvements in returns?
If we supplement the main ingredient, what should we use to supplement the rest of the ingredients in Canna Boost?
It seems to me that Canna Boost somehow increase`s bud growth as if it had added P or K, similar to H&G BudXL, is this correct, or is it not a nutrient at all?
Is it advisable to add AN BigBUD or H&G BudXL to the Full Canna Aqua program [Including Canna Boost],,,what might happen if i did add one of these with Canna Boost, might i see any improvements in returns?
Boost is definitely over priced, and you can get the active ingredient more cheaply, but I have been using it for a long time, and have it dialed in and am too lazy to try something else. When my current supply runs out, maybe I'll try.
The one thing I have noticed about Boost is that plants finish 5-8 days sooner, so this in itself makes it worth it. Of course that is probably strain dependent, and I have not grown any sativas with it, except Cindy 99, and that finishes quickly anyway. But a normal 8-0 week strain will finish early, so do not go by your pre-Boost finishing times with strains that you already have dialed in. They will finish faster. If you use Boost and your regular finishing times, you will get sleep weed. That's been my experience.
The one thing I have noticed about Boost is that plants finish 5-8 days sooner, so this in itself makes it worth it. Of course that is probably strain dependent, and I have not grown any sativas with it, except Cindy 99, and that finishes quickly anyway. But a normal 8-0 week strain will finish early, so do not go by your pre-Boost finishing times with strains that you already have dialed in. They will finish faster. If you use Boost and your regular finishing times, you will get sleep weed. That's been my experience.
BerndV
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Canna's PK 13/14 has a guaranteed analysis of 10% P2O5 and 11% K2O. If you input the guaranteed analysis and specific gravity of PK 13/14 into the Cannastats calculator, the resultant elemental phosphorous and elemental potassium ratios this yields are the optimum 1:2 ratio. This has been covered widely in other threads here on ICMag. European PK 13/14 products are identical in phosphorous and potassium elemental values to so-called 9/18 products.
My plants get boost, even though they are in perlite in hempy buckets. Works the same. I also use Bloombastic to go along with it, rather than Canna's PK 13/14. Bloombastic really works, as anyone who uses it will tell you.
Great crystal production. I am off the Canna A/B nutes, as they are expensive, even if I'm growing in coco, I am using GH Floranova Bloom, the Lucas formula, plus Floralicious + throughout.
I will continue to use Boost in all my grows, regardless of medium, unless I find and test a cheaper substitute.
Great crystal production. I am off the Canna A/B nutes, as they are expensive, even if I'm growing in coco, I am using GH Floranova Bloom, the Lucas formula, plus Floralicious + throughout.
I will continue to use Boost in all my grows, regardless of medium, unless I find and test a cheaper substitute.
whats up bv? check this out, you'll like it-
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=136037
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=136037
For what it's worth to those who are interested you can buy powdered Triacontanol on ebay by the gram, and I'm sure plenty other places as well. Instructions on making the solution are available as well.
I never used this cannaboost product, but if the liquid has an amber-brown color it probably has some humics/fulvic acids, and possibly carbs.. This stuff is contained in many other booster type products.. When Triacontanol powder is mixed with water it's a clear solution.
I never used this cannaboost product, but if the liquid has an amber-brown color it probably has some humics/fulvic acids, and possibly carbs.. This stuff is contained in many other booster type products.. When Triacontanol powder is mixed with water it's a clear solution.
How so?
from a reliable source within the biz, and from my own research
from a reliable source within the biz, and from my own research
Molasses(carbs & K), Corn steep liqour(CSL adds N and amino acids), soya lecithin(emulsifier/nute), asperin(salacylic acid), (after this thread)>>> Triacontanol, distilled water.......
main ingredients
from a reliable source within the biz, and from my own research
Molasses(carbs & K), Corn steep liqour(CSL adds N and amino acids), soya lecithin(emulsifier/nute), asperin(salacylic acid), (after this thread)>>> Triacontanol, distilled water.......
main ingredients
Found another triacontanol product that works amazing
http://www.agrisciences.com/pdf/AGRISPON-productinfo.pdf
http://www.agrisciences.com/pdf/AGRISPON-productinfo.pdf
Good find.
All these triacontanol products work wonders.Increase in yield is noticeable.
You can easily see the results, especially in stressed or diseased plants. I have been using aspirin for a long time on all my plants.
Your post is very misleading to say the least!
