The effects of Marijuana and Driving

[In~Plain~Site]

CONCLUSION: Further investigation of the impact of driving after cannabis use on collision risk and factors that may modify that relationship is warranted.

Sound like a smoking gun to you?

Not to those doing the control study

 

[In~Plain~Site]

If you wanna actually put some money on the table and make it worth my while i'll do more research for you. Those links took me 2 minutes to find and were the first 4 that had a published medical study that included smoking. Just because it happened to also include tests where they combined alcohol and thc doesn't mean the other parts aren't valid.


It's one thing to dispute the findings of the reports (though that's pretty dumb as well considering the amount of reports out there) but to dispute that they even exist makes me think your just trying to start an argument.

What I wanted was for the individual who was making the claims to back it up...you wanna take his stead, be my guest.

But don't post bullshit

 

[headiez247]

Can play this game all day long

Driving under the influence of cannabis (DUIC) has become a growing concern. Studies investigating the impact of DUIC on traffic safety have shown evidence that, during the acute period of cannabis intoxication, cannabis diminishes driving faculties and is associated with an elevated risk of collision.

 

[thingshappening]

Guys, pot is a miracle plant. It's like, it makes you more aware...you know?

I'll need someone to prove to me that pot makes you high and that it's a bad thing for driving. I just feel pure love-energy when I'm high on miracle plants, man. I'm very intelligent and smoke weed every day so I'll probably dissect your fancy science talk anyway.

When I'm high we're all connected, man. I could never hurt someone when I'm high driving a car. When I'm high I'm one with Jah and the cosmos, mann. Pot is not a bummer like alcohol. It's just a plant bro.

Jah bless.

 

[thingshappening]

What I wanted was for the individual who was making the claims to back it up...you wanna take his stead, be my guest.

But don't post bullshit

Do you honestly think anybody with basic literacy read this thread and thought "in plain site is correct. Thingshappening claims pot gets you high, and he doesn't back that claim up with scientific literature. He's completely full of shit."

 

[In~Plain~Site]

Can play this game all day long

That's exactly what all those studies, that you posted, are...play on words,conjecture and non-sense with no real conclusions.


Maybe I'm not smoking enough before I drive

 

[In~Plain~Site]

Do you honestly think anybody with basic literacy read this thread and thought "in plain site is correct. Thingshappening claims pot gets you high, and he doesn't back that claim up with scientific literature. He's completely full of shit."

Resort to personal attacks when you have no argument...you spent the time to find a funny picture, which I do appreciate

But lacked the ability to back up your claims with same said search function?

And I'm in the 6th grade

 

[In~Plain~Site]

Why does this thread not have a poll?

You know what, the truth is there may be some times I choose not to drive if I just puffed on some potent homegrown herb and it hits me a little harder than usual.

It's still a completely subjective experience and if you can't make that distinction, you probably shouldn't be smoking or driving.

I'd pass either of you cats the joint i'm hitting on right now

I'm totally cool with agreeing to disagree

 

[Budweiser13]

When someone can define 'stoned' to me.

You dumbass stoner there defined

 

[RetroGrow]

It makes me drive more slowly, therefore it is safer. Never had an accident or gotten a ticket while driving stoned. As long as you stay in the slow lane, you are cool driving on cannabis. Being high does not necessarily mean being impaired. If you leave alcohol out of the mix, you are good to go, IMO.
But it does slow down traffic

 

[thingshappening]

It makes me drive more slowly, therefore it is safer.

Alcohol- especially good scotch, for some reason- calms me down. I'm a very edgy person typically. Therefore I'm less erratic and edgy when drunk, key components towards being a better driver. Therefore driving drunk is safer than driving sober.

Never had an accident or gotten a ticket while driving stoned. As long as you stay in the slow lane, you are cool driving on cannabis. Being high does not necessarily mean being impaired.

Actually, impaired is quite literally the embodiment of what it means to be high.

Sorry to be picking apart everyone's arguments like a negative nancy, but I work in health care at a hospital. I won't go into details, but suffice to say, I don't have time for the intellectual circles, usually rooted in some psuedo-masculine retardation ("I'm a veteran toker, maaaaaaannnn")required to self-justify being a prick and putting everyone in society in greater danger. Take a cab when faced with operating half-ton killing machines at 60 miles per hour while under the influence of hallucinogens.

Sorry if I'm being a square, maaaaaaannnnnnn. I think driving fucked up makes you a childish shithead (not you personally. Just sayin).

 

[In~Plain~Site]

No worries, you haven't picked anything apart, but you're still entitled to your opinion

 

[thingshappening]

No worries, you haven't picked anything apart, but you're still entitled to your opinion

I've thoroughly picked it apart. You're displaying classic psuedo intellectual tendencies in requiring I quantify what it means to be high. You know very well what it means to have delayed reaction times, and so on.

Recognizing your play, I got bored and subsequently dismissed you as a source of worthwhile varying opinion.

That's all.

 

[RetroGrow]

Actually, impaired is quite literally the embodiment of what it means to be high.

Maybe in your paranoid world.
However, I reject everything you have posted as fear mongering, but I guess you are more comfortable with a nanny state.

 

[thingshappening]

Maybe in your paranoid world.
However, I reject everything you have posted as fear mongering, but I guess you are more comfortable with a nanny state.

Nanny state totalitarian tendencies are synonymous with accepting impaired judgment of drivers in the mind of...the special.


Thanks for stopping by, maaannnn.

Jah bless.

 

[In~Plain~Site]

I've thoroughly picked it apart. You're displaying classic psuedo intellectual tendencies in requiring I quantify what it means to be high. You know very well what it means to have delayed reaction times, and so on.

Recognizing your play, I got bored and subsequently dismissed you as a source of worthwhile varying opinion.

That's all.

If you feel comfortable backing away without validating your claim, that's on you.

How's that for psuedo intellectualism?

I must admit, you've got the deflection game down pretty well, were you the youngest in your family?

My position still stands until you can prove otherwise...until then, have another scotch, I'm sure it's harmless

 

[Tronic]

To be fair... I am definitely split on this argument.

Driving while impaired = not good. Motaco -> 100% agreed with your posts.

However... who/what is to define impaired? (I'm not by any means saying that these following drugs are similar/the same/comparable/etc as cannabis, but since there is NO OTHER comparison, i have to use it)

Many people get into car accidents/injuries/etc and have chronic pain issues. They deal with this by taking a few pain pills per day, for the rest of their lives, in many cases. Usually, tolerance develops, and eventually the dosage is upped (which we all agree is the harm in synthetic opiates/benzos/etc).

Now, this being said, if an individual has been taking X.Xmg/g of XXX responsibly perscribed to deal with their pain/anxiety/etc... and they DONT take their medication... shit... i'd call that more 'impaired' than not.... So, I guess i can relate to what In~Plain~Site is saying here as well.

I think its all a relative question and more specifically relative to one's individual situation/actual cannabis usage. I'm not here to judge, just offer a few thoughts.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Pot is not a "miracle plant." It's a plant that helps a few sick people cope, and acts as (mostly) harmless fun for the rest of us. Same as a wide variety of other plants in different ways.

Bullshit.

Cannabis is a miracle plant.

You may not be thinking this through all the way.

 

[motaco]

well since In Plain Sight sent me a message explaining that he was STILL CONFUSED. I'll explain it as simply as I can.

I don't care if what you are smoking is nutmeg and banana peels. If you are ingesting something that makes you inebriated you should not drive until its effects have worn off. When you are intoxicated your judgment, alertness, coordination, and subsequently psychomotor function are impaired as member "things happening" correctly stated in his post. Its not up for debate, its a recorded fact of science. That is what being intoxicated is.

We have a law for driving under the influence for a reason. Its because its a bad idea. When you choose to make a personal decision that can potentially harmfully effect everyone around you, you have done something immoral and dangerous.

I don't give a shit what you do on your own time. Huff paint in your house if you want. But don't get behind the wheel and endanger everyone else.

Its frightfully simple. If you feel intoxicated, regardless of what substance caused it. Don't drive. Wait until you are sober. I was joking before but I'm honestly not now. I think you have a serious learning disability buddy. This isn't rocket science that you need someone to explain it to you a half dozen times.

There is an old saying. "The problem with playing dumb is that you end up looking like a fool."

 

[In~Plain~Site]

well since In Plain Sight sent me a message explaining that he was STILL CONFUSED. I'll explain it as simply as I can.

I don't care if what you are smoking is nutmeg and banana peels. If you are ingesting something that makes you inebriated you should not drive until its effects have worn off. When you are intoxicated your judgment, alertness, coordination, and subsequently psychomotor function are impaired as member "things happening" correctly stated in his post. Its not up for debate, its a recorded fact of science. That is what being intoxicated is.

We have a law for driving under the influence for a reason. Its because its a bad idea. When you choose to make a personal decision that can potentially harmfully effect everyone around you, you have done something immoral and dangerous.

I don't give a shit what you do on your own time. Huff paint in your house if you want. But don't get behind the wheel and endanger everyone else.

Its frightfully simple. If you feel intoxicated, regardless of what substance caused it. Don't drive. Wait until you are sober. I was joking before but I'm honestly not now. I think you have a serious learning disability buddy. This isn't rocket science that you need someone to explain it to you a half dozen times.

There is an old saying. "The problem with playing dumb is that you end up looking like a fool."

Was I rude to you with my comment & positive rep? Hardly
I said come back when you could prove your point legitimately

Have you, or anybody else done that? Hardly
Apparently it's you who's confused with being able to discern varying degrees of anything.

Lemme guess, you're one of those 'you're either with us or against us' types...amirite or amirite?

If I somehow gave you the impression that I condone driving under the influence, that was not the intent.I do not.
I don't ride around like g-money, hat on the down low, bumpin 'fuk the police' while my kids are in the back yellin' "Go faster Daddy!"

I know why I smoke. I need to, not sure you understand that concept and I know the other 'person' who thinks this plant 'only helps a few sick people' doesn't either.

I'll be right here, still waiting for anyone to define 'stoned', not abuse, which was my original post in this thread.
I thought adults wouldn't need to have that clarified for them...I guess we're all wrong occasionally.