dirt the movie!

[jaykush]

there is one on pbs website now about cuba, the program nature. its mostly about the native flora and fauna but they mention a lot on how they were "accidentally" left out of the oil boom and are now better off because of it. they still mostly farm how people have been farming for hundreds of years.

 

[grapeman]

"Dirt". Watched this movie today from pirate bay.

I thought there would be some knowledgeable people talking about soil, instead you have a mix of hippies, idealists and a fat "red dot" indian woman (How did she get to be so fat while eating so much healthy food?) talking in esoteric terms of "feel good" bullshit. There was no substance to this movie whatsoever. I already knew there was soil under concrete.
The farms I saw in this movie that were shining examples of biological diversity were bullshit and without outside funds would be broke.

The falsehood here is that the movie maker and the simpleton movie watcher thinks the modern farmer does not take care of his soil, which is false on it's face.

Propaganda at best.

 

[mad librettist]

secretly I agree with grapeman about this movie, if not his assessment of how well farmers are caring for soil (on the whole not his peer group). There is a lot of purely extractive farming going on that is unsustainable. At the same time, I read a lot about semi-big farmers doing stuff like planting radishes and leaving them in the ground. But when you put the whole picture together, we are sucking the life out of our soil and living off billion year old algae that is going to run out.

I had high hopes for this movie but I found the whole thing was one long hard sell.


I do think we need to start getting our food supply from the sun again.

 

[DARC MIND]

wow
thanks for the comments non the less

 

[guest2012y]

I thought the movie was a good for young adults to watch. They don't know shit about any of this,but rather how Snookie's doing and if there's a chance they can get laid 2 nite.
It explains the value of soil very simply and provokes basic thought about how important soil is...it's a positive despite the various accepted ideals.
Then again,I'm just a stupid fu#*ing hippie who got left out of "Hate anyone different than me crowd" way of being....what do I know.

 

[Microbeman]

I thought the movie was a good for young adults to watch. They don't know shit about any of this,but rather how Snookie's doing and if there's a chance they can get laid 2 nite.
It explains the value of soil very simply and provokes basic thought about how important soil is...it's a positive despite the various accepted ideals.
Then again,I'm just a stupid fu#*ing hippie who got left out of "Hate anyone different than me crowd" way of being....what do I know.

I liked it better than one I watched recently that was made by a Christian group and talked mostly about creation rather than soil science. BTW, if I'm not mistaken the fat Indian lady is a famous phded scientist.

The farmers I lived amongst for the past 25 years knew diddly about soil. They mostly followed the recommendations of the local agrologist and laboratory who also new nothing. Most of them were blown away by what I showed to them.

 

[guest2012y]

I liked it better than one I watched recently that was made by a Christian group and talked mostly about creation rather than soil science.

Gotta' admit those guys are pretty good at just slipping it in there (in more ways than one) on any topic. Most people are detached from soil on a personal level until it makes a change in their lives in one way or another. To create an awareness definitely helps to inspire positive change in some people.

 

[DARC MIND]

believe ur not mistaken MM
Vandana Shiva
time magazines 2003 environmental “hero”
o & lets not forget the other,"mix of hippies, idealists"

Wangari Maathai: Nobel Laureate and Founder, Green Belt Movement
Wangari Maathai is internationally recognized for her persistent struggle in the fight for democracy, human rights and environmental conservation. Born in Nyeri, Kenya, Professor Maathai was the first woman in East and Central Africa to earn a doctorate degree. In 1976, as the chair of the Department of Veterinary Anatomy at the University of Nairobi, Professor Maathai started a tree-planting initiative. Her initiative grew into a broad-based, grassroots organization called the Green Belt Movement, whose main focus is planting trees with women's groups to both conserve the environment and improve Kenyans' quality of life dramatically. Since then, the Pan African Green Belt Network has launched similar tree planting initiatives in other African countries, including Tanzania, Uganda, Malawi, Lesotho, Ethiopia and Zimbabwe. A visiting Fellow at Yale University's Global Institute of Sustainable Forestry, Professor Maathai serves on the boards of numerous organizations, including the United Nations Secretary General's Advisory Board on Disarmament. Her accomplishments include an appointment as Kenya's Assistant Minister for Environment, Natural Resources and Wildlife and a presidency of the African Union's Economic, Social and Cultural Council.Through the Green Belt Movement, Professor Maathai has assisted in planting more than 20 million trees across Africa, receiving numerous awards, most notably the Nobel Peace Prize in 2004.
"Clothe the earth - put on the skin, a dress. A green dress, like trees, like vegetation. And then, when the earth is covered with green, with vegetation, it looks very beautiful. And in this age of climate change, can you imagine how happy the planet would be?" - Wangari Maathai, Dirt! The Movie

Wes Jackson: President, The Land Institute
President of The Land Institute, Jackson earned a BA in Biology from Kansas Wesleyan, an MA in Botany from University of Kansas, and a PhD in Genetics from North Carolina State University. He established and served as chair of one of the country's first environmental studies programs at California State University-Sacramento and then returned to his native Kansas to found The Land Institute in 1976. He is the author of several books including "New Roots for Agriculture" and "Becoming Native to This Place," and is widely recognized as a leader in the international movement for a more sustainable agriculture. He was a 1990 Pew Conservation Scholar, in 1992 became a MacArthur Fellow, and in 2000 received the Right Livelihood Award (called the "alternative Nobel prize"). In 2005 he was honored by Smithsonian Magazine as one of the 35 innovators who made a difference - a list that also included Bill Gates, Frank Gehry, Maya Angelou, Yo-Yo Ma and Annie Liebowitz.
"Here's this 120-year window in which we find ourselves and it's probably the most important window in the history of homosapien." - Wes Jackson, Dirt! The Movie

Sebastiao Salgado: Documentary Photojournalist and Co-Founder, Instituto Terra
Sebastiao Salgado worked as an economist for the International Coffee Organization, often traveling to Africa on missions for the World Bank. In 1973, Salgado switched to photography, working on news assignments before veering to documentary work. Today, Sebastiao Salgado is one of the most respected photojournalists in the world, his reputation forged by decades of dedication and powerful black and white images of dispossessed and distressed people taken in places where most wouldn't dare to go. His images artfully teach us the disastrous effects of war, poverty, disease, and hostile climatic conditions. In 1999, appalled by the relation between human degradation and environmental degradation, Lelia Deluiz Wanick Salgado and Sebastiao Salgado founded Instituto Terra, a nonprofit organization based in their home town of Aimores, Brazil. Designed to preserve and promote the biodiversity of the Brazilian Atlantic Forest, Instituto Terra has become a center of excellence in the areas of restoration, environmental education, sustainable development and social mobilization.
Lelia Deluiz Wanick Salgado: Co-Founder, Instituto Terra
Lelia was born in Vitoria, Brazil, and moved to Paris in 1969. Lelia runs Amazonas Images, the photography agency she created with Sebastiao and has designed and curated numerous exhibitions of Sebastiao's photographs in major museums and galleries throughout the world. She has degrees in architecture from Ecole Nationale Superieure des Beaux-Arts, Paris, and in Urban Planning from the University of Paris. She is the President and Co-Founder of Instituto Terra.
"In all this land around this planet, if we started to replant - in ten years there would be no more dead land." - Sebastiao Salgado, Dirt! The Movie
　
Paul Stamets: Mycologist
Paul Stamets has been a dedicated mycologist for over 30 years. During this time, he has discovered and co-authored four new species of mushrooms and pioneered countless techniques in the field of edible and medicinal mushroom cultivation. Stamets has written six books on mushroom cultivation, use and identification; his books Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms and The Mushroom Cultivator have been hailed as the definitive texts of mushroom cultivation. His newest book is "Mycelium Running: How Mushrooms Can Help Save The World." In 2008, Paul received the National Geographic Adventure Magazine's Green-Novator and the Argosy Foundation's E-chievement Awards.
"These old growth forests come from the soil that's so thin beneath my feet. The soil originated after the last ice age over 10,000 years ago, when the glaciers receded and scraped away most of the soil down to barren rock... Mmmm... That smells good, it really does- Paul Stamets, Dirt! The Movie
Miguel Altieri: Professor of Agroecology, University of California at Berkeley
Miguel Altieri has been teaching Agroecology - the relation between agricultural crops and the environment - at the University of California at Berkeley since 1981 in the Department of Environmental Science, Policy and Management. Professor Altieri, who was born in Chile, is particularly interested in how the interactions between plants, animals, humans and the environment affect agricultural systems in Central and South America. He has served as a scientific advisor to many prominent NGOs, including the Latin American Consortium on Agroecology and Development (CLADES), the Consultative Group on International Agriculture Research and the FAO-GIAHS program (Globally Ingenious Agricultural Heritage Systems) a program devoted to identifying and dynamically conserving traditional farming systems in the developing world. He also served as General Coordinator for the United Nations Development Program's Sustainable Agriculture Networking and Extension. Professor Altieri is also the general coordinator of the Latin American Scientific Society of Agroecology (www.agroeco.org/socla). Professor Altieri is the author of more than 200 publications, and numerous books including "Agroecology: The Science of Sustainable Agriculture and Biodiversity," "Pest Management in Agroecosystems and Agroecology" and "The Search for a Truly Sustainable Agriculture."
"If we don't take care of the soil which is just the first five centimeter layer of life that is on the earth, our future is totally condemned." - Miguel Altieri, Dirt! The Movie

Pierre Rabhi: Philosopher, Agroecologist Farmer turned philosopher
Pierre Rabhi has worked relentlessly to build awareness of the interrelationship between people and the environment. A prolific writer, Rabhi explores this intricate relationship in all of his acclaimed books, including "As in the Heart, So in the Earth;" "Reversing the Desertification of the Soul and the Soil;" and "Words of the Earth: An African Initiation and The Humming Bird." Putting his words in action, Rabhi has promoted the development of agro-ecology around the world, particularly - though not exclusively - in arid countries. In 1981, Rabhi was invited by the government of Burkina Faso to share his discoveries with struggling African farmers. He also started numerous development programs in Morocco, Palestine, Algeria, Tunisia, Senegal, Togo, Benin, Mauritania, Nigeria, Mali, Poland and the Ukraine. In 1997 and 1998, at the request of the United Nations, Rabhi presented proposals for the implementation of his plan for world sustainability. He founded the "International Movement for Earth and Humanism." Rabhi is also vice president of the Kokopelli Association, which protects biodiversity with the production and distribution of organically and biodynamically grown seeds, and promotes the regeneration of cultivated soils.
"Africa is not poor. Ethiopia alone, if properly cultivated, could feed the entire African continent." - Pierre Rabhi, Dirt! The Movie
David Orr: Professor of Environmental Studies, Oberlin College
David W. Orr is the Paul Sears Distinguished Professor of Environmental Studies and Politics and Chair of the Environmental Studies Program at Oberlin College. He is also a James Marsh Professor at Large at the University of Vermont. He is the author of several influential books: "Design on the Edge: The Making of a High Performance Building," "The Last Refuge: Patriotism, Politics, and the Environment ," and "The Nature of Design" (Oxford, 2002.) He has published 150 articles in scientific journals, social science publications, and popular magazines. He has lectured at hundreds of colleges and universities in the U.S. and elsewhere. Orr is the recipient of a Bioneers Award (2003), a National Conservation Achievement Award by the National Wildlife Federation, a Lyndhurst Prize awarded by the Lyndhurst Foundation "to recognize the educational, cultural, and charitable activities of particular individuals of exceptional talent, character, and moral vision." He was named "an Environmental Hero for 2004" by Interiors & Sources Magazine, holds three Honorary Doctorates and has been a distinguished scholar in residence at University of Washington, Ball State University and Westminster College in Salt Lake City. In a special citation, the Connecticut General Assembly noted Orr's "vision, dedication, and personal passion" in promoting the principles of sustainability. The Cleveland Plain Dealer described him as "one of those who will shape our lives."
"This is a fabric of life being torn apart that can never be put back together again." -David Orr, Dirt! The Movie

Majora Carter: Founder, Sustainable South Bronx
Born, raised and residing in the South Bronx, NY, Carter believes residents shouldn't have to move out of their neighborhood to live in a better one. She is committed to creating intensive urban forestation with green roofing and water permeable open spaces. This robust horticultural infrastructure cleans the air, reduces the urban-heat island effect, efficiently manages storm water runoff and creates jobs.
In 2001, Carter founded the nonprofit, environmental-justice solutions corporation, Sustainable South Bronx (SSBx). Carter's first major project was writing a $1.25 million federal transportation planning grant for the South Bronx Greenway, which led to the area's first new waterfront park in over 60 years. Two years later, SSBx opened the Bronx Environmental Stewardship Training program (BEST) - one of the nation's first urban green-collar job training and placement systems. After 5 years, it boasts an 85% employment rate. Carter's local environmental solutions rest on poverty alleviation through green economic development; the local jobs they create can empower communities to resist bad environmental decisions. Carter is a 2006 MacArthur Genius Fellow, one of Essence Magazine's 25 most influential African Americans, one the New York Post's 50 Most Influential Women for the past two years, co-host of The Green on Sundance Channel, and a board member of the Wilderness Society. She is also president of the green-collar economic consulting company, The Majora Carter Group, LLC.
"You don't have to move out of your neighborhood to live in a better one but you sure do have to fight if you want to reconnect your life into a more natural state that actually includes poor people."- Majora Carter, Dirt! The Movie

James Jiler: Program Director, The Greenhouse at Rikers Island Prison Systems
Author James Jiler has directed the Horticultural Society of New York's jail-to-street GreenHouse program on Rikers Island since the program's inception in 1997. Jiler, with a background in forestry and social ecology, holds an MS degree. James Jiler is Director of the Greenhouse Project, a renowned horticultural job-training program for inmates at New York City's Rikers Island jail system. He provides instruction in horticulture and greenhouse management integrated with a math, science and English literacy curriculum. Jiler also oversees job placement and after-care services for released inmates while directing the GreenTeam.
"When we talk about dirt, we're not just talking about dirt, we're talking about the spiritual as well as the physical attributes of one's life, so it's no longer dirt, it's a metaphor for a healthy life." - James Jiler, Dirt! The Movie

Fritjof Capra: Director of Center for Ecoliteracy, Theoretical Physicist
Fritjof Capra has published many technical papers and lectured extensively on the philosophical implications of modern science. His most notable works include "The Tao of Physics" (1975), "The Turning Point" (1982) and "The Web of Life" (1997). Capra is also a visiting lecturer at Schumacher College in England and director of the Center for Ecoliteracy in Berkeley, California, which is dedicated to nurturing new ecological visions and applying them to current social, economic and environmental problems.
"The living organisms on earth have used the very same molecules of air, water and soil over and over again. Not just the same types of molecules but the very same molecules." - Fritjof Capra, Dirt! The Movie

Peter Girguis: Assistant Professor of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology, Harvard University
Peter Girguis is an assistant professor of microbiology at Harvard University, and his research focuses on microbes that live in extreme environments. He is involved in developing microbial fuel cells as power systems in both the developed and developing world. He is also known for designing state-of-the-art bioreactors to grow the so-called "unculturable" microbes, including anaerobic methane oxidizing archaea and sulfur-reducing bacteria. He received his B.S.c from UCLA, his Ph.D. from UC Santa Barbara, and did postdoctoral work at the Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute.
"What we often call dirt, you know, the stuff you are trying to wash off our car or wash off our driveways, are really these soils and sediments that are vital to keeping our biosphere healthy, which is all about keeping the plants and animals and ourselves alive. Soils and sediments are really more like a living skin on the earth, and they are the stewards of our planet." - Peter Girguis, Dirt! The Movie

Alice Waters: Founder, The Edible Schoolyard
In 1971, after graduating from the University of California at Berkeley and training at the Montessori School in London, Waters opened Chez Panisse with a fixed-price menu that changed daily. The menu format is the heart of Waters' philosophy of serving only the highest quality products, only when they are in season. Over its more than three decades of existence, Chez Panisse has developed a network of mostly local farmers and ranchers whose dedication to sustainable agriculture assures Chez Panisse a steady supply of pure and fresh ingredients. In 1997, Waters helped launch the Edible Schoolyard on the campus of the local Martin Lurther King Jr., Middle School. On the one-acre plot, students not only raise fruits and vegetables but also learn about food production and preparation in gardening and cooking classes. Waters has authored and co-authored eight food-related books. In 2001, Chez Panisse was named Best Restaurant in America by Gourmet magazine. Waters has received numerous awards, including the Bon Appetit magazine's Lifetime Achievement Award in 2000 and the James Beard Humanitarian Award in 1997. She was named Best Chef in America by the James Beard Foundation in 1992 and Cuisine et Vins de France listed her as one of the world's 10 best chefs in 1986. Alice Waters is a strong advocate for farmer's markets and for sound and sustainable agriculture.
"The experience in nature is so comforting to these kids who have never had their hands in the ground before. They just need to be here. They want to be in the garden." - Alice Waters, Dirt! The Movie

Gary Vaynerchuk: Host, WineLibrary.TV
Gary Vaynerchuk is a 32-year-old self-trained wine expert. His webcast, "The Thunder Show", on www.winelibrarytv.com, attracts over 80,000 viewers each day. Gary's cult-like following is the result of his unconventional, often irreverent commentary on wine. In the name of "expanding one's palate", Gary convinced Conan O'Brien to lick salted rocks and shared samples of dirt and grass with Ellen Degeneres. He routinely pans popular wines. At age 27, Vaynerchuk was the youngest winner of Marketwatch's Business Award, Market Watch Leader, and has recently launched first book, "101 Wines Guaranteed to Inspire, Delight, and Bring Thunder to Your World."
"With the amount of species that live in a teaspoon of dirt, I think it's very obvious dirt might be more alive than we are." - Gary Vaynerchuk, Dirt! The Movie
Janine Benyus: Founder, The Biomimicry Institute
Janine Benyus is a natural sciences writer, innovation consultant and author. In her latest book, "Biomimicry: Innovation Inspired By Nature," Benyus coined the term biomimicry to identify an emerging discipline of bio-inspired innovation, for example, solar cells that mimic leaves. David Perlman of the San Francisco Chronicle called the book Biomimicry "one viable answer to the wake-up call that Rachel Carson sounded a generation ago in Silent Spring.'' Since the book's 1997 release, Benyus has evolved the practice of biomimicry by consulting with sustainable business, academic and government leaders, founding the nonprofit Biomimicry Institute and serving on the Eco-Dream Team at Interface, Inc. In addition to her biomimicry work, Benyus teaches interpretive writing, lectures at the University of Montana, and restores and protects wild lands. She serves on a number of Montana-based, land-use committees and is president of Living Education, a nonprofit organization dedicated to place-based living and learning. Benyus has received several awards including the Rachel Carson Environmental Ethics Award, the Lud Browman Award for Science Writing, the Science Writing in Society Journalism Award and the Barrows and Heinz Distinguished Lectureships.
"Our wealth is imagenary. It comes from soil." - Janine Benyus, Dirt! The Movie

John Todd: Biologist, Ecological Designer
John Todd is a Buckminster Fuller 2008 Challenge-winning biologist working in the field of ecological design. His principal interests include solving the problems of food production and waste-water processing. During the 1970s, Todd and his colleagues at Spry Point on Prince Edward Island applied biological science to technology and developed what they called "living machines," a self- contained, innovative treatment system designed to treat a specific waste stream using the principles of ecological engineering. It achieved this goal with diverse communities of bacteria and other microorganisms, algae, plants, trees, snails, fish and other living creatures working symbiotically. In 1990, Todd developed a greenhouse waste treatment plant in Cape Cod that yields clean water from sewage. Todd has received numerous awards, including in 1996, the Environmental Merit Award from the Environmental Protection Agency in 1996 and, the Bioneers Lifetime Achievement Award in 1998.
"Dirt is very much alive. It probably has in it and around it all of the kingdoms of life." - John Todd, Dirt! The Movie

Kevin Rowell: the Natural Builders
has devoted himself to the study of sustainability, working extensively on international development, particularly in Asia and Latin America. He is currently program director for Kleiwerks International a non profit that helps communities use what they have more efficiently (www.kleiwerks.org). In 2005 he cofounded the Natural Builders,(www.thenaturalbuilders.com) a contracting company that works around the world doing cutting-edge work in green building and development, as well as large scale art installations. His passion for natural materials and their use in construction has shown through his publications with groups such as the World Monuments Fund in preserving traditional architecture In Haiti, and with the United Nations where he has facilitated dialogues about the use of local materials in construction for development.

http://www.dirtthemovie.org/pages/the-participants

 

[Iron_Lion]

I watched DIRT a while back and thought it was pretty good, it was pretty entertaining for a movie about dirt.

 

[MrFista]

I like fat people, and thin ones too. I can't stand fucking bigots though.

 

[CC_2U]

You have to realize that a PhD from a university in India doesn't begin to compare with a 'Certificate of Really Trying Hard' from a GED program perhaps.

They don't even pay any dues!

Besides that the comment about subsidy is pretty funny indeed. Ever hear of 'farm price supports' one of the largest money boondoggle set-up by Congress years and years ago.

Then of course there is the FREE information to farmers from studies conducted with PUBLIC MONEY at universities and colleges in each and every state. UC Davis ring any bells?

Then let's talk about PUBLIC MONEY being used to subsidize the beef industry with free water along several rivers in the western states.

Just for starters.............

CC_2U

 

[vonforne]

"Dirt". Watched this movie today from pirate bay.

I thought there would be some knowledgeable people talking about soil, instead you have a mix of hippies, idealists and a fat "red dot" indian woman (How did she get to be so fat while eating so much healthy food?) talking in esoteric terms of "feel good" bullshit. There was no substance to this movie whatsoever. I already knew there was soil under concrete.
The farms I saw in this movie that were shining examples of biological diversity were bullshit and without outside funds would be broke.

The falsehood here is that the movie maker and the simpleton movie watcher thinks the modern farmer does not take care of his soil, which is false on it's face.

Propaganda at best.

Wow Grapeman, could you please insult me some more. I happen to pride myself on being an idealistic hippie. I admire a ´red dot´culture that has farmed the same land organically for ooooh say 10,000 years.

The movie was not perfect but damn man. You can be a critic without all the bigotry.

V

 

[CC_2U]

Vonforne

I was stationed near Washington D.C. in the spring of 1981 when the anti-war groups staged what was called 'The Days of Rage' and the city was literally shut-down. Federal troops were called in from military bases in and around the city.

At any rate we had this old sergeant who was a few months away from retiring and he was the company's First Sergeant (E-8)

Here were his instructions as we loaded up into the trucks to move into the center of the city: "Men, you're going to encounter the worst of American society - hippies, n*ggers, peace queers - same f*cking thing. They'll all be there. Don't take any sh*t from these assholes. America needs you right now!"

Then again he had extenuating circumstances - 3 years fighting in WWII in Europe, the Korean War and 4 or 5 tours in Viet Nam. He kinda made sense in a bizarro world kinda way.

CC_2U

 

[supuradam]

Vonforne

I was stationed near Washington D.C. in the spring of 1981 when the anti-war groups staged what was called 'The Days of Rage' and the city was literally shut-down. Federal troops were called in from military bases in and around the city.

At any rate we had this old sergeant who was a few months away from retiring and he was the company's First Sergeant (E-8)

Here were his instructions as we loaded up into the trucks to move into the center of the city: "Men, you're going to encounter the worst of American society - hippies, n*ggers, peace queers - same f*cking thing. They'll all be there. Don't take any sh*t from these assholes. America needs you right now!"

Then again he had extenuating circumstances - 3 years fighting in WWII in Europe, the Korean War and 4 or 5 tours in Viet Nam. He kinda made sense in a bizarro world kinda way.

CC_2U

Well, for what it's worth, I can vouch that First Sergeants haven't changed a bit since then.

I liked it, anyways. It wasn't an "organics higher learning" movie, but I don't think it was supposed to be. I thought of it more as a wake up call for people who haven't even thought about it in their lives. Which is good. We need more of these. Too much, too fast, and people just can't even be bothered.

My wife has had zero interest in my cultivation for the past year and a half. Whenever I start waxing philosophic about things I've been reading she gets this glassy eyed look and I know I'm just talking to myself. After watching that movie, all of a sudden she has all sorts of questions about what's going on in the spare bedroom. I'll say the movie did what it was supposed to.

Cheers

 

[mad librettist]

dirt the movie!

whoa, I hope I didn't come across anti vandana shiva.


just think the movie was tedious.

 

[vonforne]

Vonforne

I was stationed near Washington D.C. in the spring of 1981 when the anti-war groups staged what was called 'The Days of Rage' and the city was literally shut-down. Federal troops were called in from military bases in and around the city.

At any rate we had this old sergeant who was a few months away from retiring and he was the company's First Sergeant (E-8)

Here were his instructions as we loaded up into the trucks to move into the center of the city: "Men, you're going to encounter the worst of American society - hippies, n*ggers, peace queers - same f*cking thing. They'll all be there. Don't take any sh*t from these assholes. America needs you right now!"

Then again he had extenuating circumstances - 3 years fighting in WWII in Europe, the Korean War and 4 or 5 tours in Viet Nam. He kinda made sense in a bizarro world kinda way.

CC_2U

I was down south in the Marines in 81 at Tustin. My Seargent Major was teaching us to hate ´gooks, chinks, camel jockeys and what not. and of course if you did something wrong he compaired you to the slacking queer hippies that smoked the shit. I think they all hatched from the same egg or something. lol

Funny world we live in.

V

 

[CC_2U]

I was down south in the Marines in 81 at Tustin

V

V

I'll try and find the articles from The Orange County Register on the huge problems facing the local, state and federal government over the Tustin Air Station.

It seems that 65+ years of dumping all kinds of goodies into the ground has rendered the property useless for home or recreational development (parks, trails, etc.).

The monetary amount is staggering to return this real estate to the status of desert. I sent them an email and advised them to just flush the soil but would they listen? Of course not.

Maybe they could divert the Santa Ana River and really get a good flush - add a couple of tankers filled with molasses and I think they'd have a winning deal here!

Where's Monsanto when you really need them?

CC_2U

 

[mad librettist]

they would have to use budswel for it to really work.

 

[CC_2U]

Fermented bat guano is always my first choice and THEN go with the molasses.

This process makes the buds taste like some very 'sweet sh*t' - really!

 

[Iron_Lion]

V

I'll try and find the articles from The Orange County Register on the huge problems facing the local, state and federal government over the Tustin Air Station.

It seems that 65+ years of dumping all kinds of goodies into the ground has rendered the property useless for home or recreational development (parks, trails, etc.).

The monetary amount is staggering to return this real estate to the status of desert. I sent them an email and advised them to just flush the soil but would they listen? Of course not.

Maybe they could divert the Santa Ana River and really get a good flush - add a couple of tankers filled with molasses and I think they'd have a winning deal here!

Where's Monsanto when you really need them?

CC_2U

Earth worms can remove a lot of toxins from the earth that would kill other organisms, like mercury and I believe cadium among other things. There is also certain types of plants that can also remove these toxins, it may take a few years but the job will get done