If you've got sativas, you might want to consider flipping to 12/12 pretty soon. Those plants could overwhelm your grow space after the stretch, possibly during. But it's a crap shoot at this point so it's your call.
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Disco,
I think he said he flipped the lights about 2 weeks ago.
Otherwise, you're right. He'd be hurting for space real soon.
I think he said he flipped the lights about 2 weeks ago.
Otherwise, you're right. He'd be hurting for space real soon.
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If you've got sativas, you might want to consider flipping to 12/12 pretty soon. Those plants could overwhelm your grow space after the stretch, possibly during. But it's a crap shoot at this point so it's your call.
I already made the switch, today is day 13 of 12/12
I think I have 1 sativa and 1 indica to tell you the truth, #2 (on the left) is more bushier than #1 (right) and it wasn't really hard training #2 with the paperclip.
I might be wrong idk i'm still a newbie to all of this but you can kinda tell by the shitty pic i posted
Almost once a day I have to readjust the paperclip on #1 even with it looped over completely with the other end hooked into the container
Paperclips aren't gonna be the best thing to use for training.
Twist ties, pipe cleaners and string will all work better since they have a greater coefficient of friction and will not slide around like a slippery paperclip.
I think it's been suggested before. Ditch the extension cords for lighting and use a power strip or two mounted to the walls or ceiling. You can still use those plug to socket adapters.
You should also consider painting or lining the inside of the cab (painting may have to wait until you're done). There seem to be a lot of dark spots and shadows.
Whatever you have, neither one is a true sativa.
BTW, you have mad duct tape skillz.
Twist ties, pipe cleaners and string will all work better since they have a greater coefficient of friction and will not slide around like a slippery paperclip.
I think it's been suggested before. Ditch the extension cords for lighting and use a power strip or two mounted to the walls or ceiling. You can still use those plug to socket adapters.
You should also consider painting or lining the inside of the cab (painting may have to wait until you're done). There seem to be a lot of dark spots and shadows.
Whatever you have, neither one is a true sativa.
BTW, you have mad duct tape skillz.
Sarge is right again. Grounded, heavy duty cable (like grounded extension cord) is safer than two conductor lamp cord. Especially in wet environments, a dedicated ground, proper wire gauge and dual insulation can make all the difference in safety.
Like Sarge suggested, power strips have the heavy-duty cable and the switch kicks in the event of electrical surprises.
Like Sarge suggested, power strips have the heavy-duty cable and the switch kicks in the event of electrical surprises.
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sm0k4
I would still suggest a power strip of some sort to plug the bulbs into. That way your light isn't so spread out. You can have it more concentrated above the plants then.
Another way to look at is is that one bulb over 1 plant isn't as good as 3 bulbs over 3 plants. Not to mention the fire hazard with the 2-wire extension cords you are using.
Another way to look at is is that one bulb over 1 plant isn't as good as 3 bulbs over 3 plants. Not to mention the fire hazard with the 2-wire extension cords you are using.
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I make sure to drain the containers before I place them back in the cabinet and the hangars supporting the lights are bent in a way that it keeps the bulbs away from the walls of the cabinet.
On a side note/update I realized that #2 (the indica in the gatorade container in the last set of pics) is growing balls too!
out of the first 6 plants, 2 didnt make it, 3 were males, 1 female LOL.
I planted 2 more seeds that sprouted on the 23 and 24th of last month before I switched to 12/12 on the 28th, hopefully one of them will be female.
So now i'm left with only 1 female! Her hairs have been getting really long entering week 3 of flowering though.
I was thinking about using the male for hash instead of throwing him out like the 1st 2 males, what are everybody's thoughts on this?
I noticed that if I feed him ice water his leaves start to get really sticky, so im thinking: Feed ice water for another week or so, chop him down, throw in a freezer for about 24 hours then grind him up/dry seive then try out some homemade/homegrown hash in my homemade vape?
Yesterday I decided to start another batch of bagseeds since I figure if everything goes well I could possibly pull off another harvest before I move out of here (around early-mid may i hope)
Today is day 24 of 12/12, I will take some pics in an hour when the lights come on
Since males only make pollen and not pistils covered in sticky trichromes, you're gonna have a hard time making any sort of hash.
Lemme know how that turns out.
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eh, it was just a thought.
I checked the cab a few minutes ago and noticed that plant that sprouted on the 24th last month (a few days before the switch) started sprouting hairs!
So now its 2 females, 1 male, 1 unknown
Took some pics
#1, the female closeup
Overview with male in front, 2nd female in 1/2 gallon milk jug in back
I checked the cab a few minutes ago and noticed that plant that sprouted on the 24th last month (a few days before the switch) started sprouting hairs!
So now its 2 females, 1 male, 1 unknown
Took some pics
#1, the female closeup
Overview with male in front, 2nd female in 1/2 gallon milk jug in back
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dont haaaate!lol tag
Glad you've got at least two hos in the stable, PiMp.
You pay full price ($60) for an xbox game but cant spend $7 on a decent power strip and get your lights set up properly.
Get your priorities straight.
You can lead a horse to water....
Get your priorities straight.
You can lead a horse to water....
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sm0k4
We tried. Sometimes it is best to learn by trial and error.
Agreed,
I made my share of silly mistakes.
I made my share of silly mistakes.
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woah woah woah, the case for that game was given to me by a friend (he lost the game).... so yeah, moving on lol
Silly of me to assume. lol
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So I got to borrow a camera from a friend which takes ALOT better pics then my damn camera phone
Today is day 73, day 45 of 12/12
And now to the pics!
As you can see (barely) the hairs on this one are starting to turn amber, but not by much, i would say 2-5% of the hairs on the whole plant, the hairs coming out the pistils are still white in most spots. So now ive no idea when this one should be ready to chop, any thoughts?
Couldn't even get the entire plant in the shot lol
Closeup with the indica in the background
Suspected indica closeups!
And the MUTANT!
This one was recently transplanted out of the plastic 18oz cup into a random container I found laying around, but it was a lil bit too late. The soil was holding too much water in because I didnt add enough perlite so thats what it got with a transplant, been kinda struggling ever since but its not a big deal to me as the other 2 females are doing just fine!
Today is day 73, day 45 of 12/12
And now to the pics!
As you can see (barely) the hairs on this one are starting to turn amber, but not by much, i would say 2-5% of the hairs on the whole plant, the hairs coming out the pistils are still white in most spots. So now ive no idea when this one should be ready to chop, any thoughts?
Couldn't even get the entire plant in the shot lol
Closeup with the indica in the background
Suspected indica closeups!
And the MUTANT!
This one was recently transplanted out of the plastic 18oz cup into a random container I found laying around, but it was a lil bit too late. The soil was holding too much water in because I didnt add enough perlite so thats what it got with a transplant, been kinda struggling ever since but its not a big deal to me as the other 2 females are doing just fine!
Hello AI4P, glad to see yer still at it. Looking good in there. You're right, the pics are great. Hope you don't mind a observation or three...
On the up side you don't appear to have any deficiencies. Based on the pics, your nitrogen is a bit high. The dark green tips that curl down are called ram horn. If you're feeding chemical nutes, you can back off a bit. On your next round, tip burn is usually the first sign of overfeeding. Feed a little less and you're giving your plants all they need.
What are you feeding? - Your NPK is the sum of your combined nutes. Micros are listed on the ingredient label.
Doesn't look like your temps are too high. I see a little light burn but it's not bad. Might be less stressful to cut any fan fingers that might overgrow their space. Keep an eye on the flower hairs and make sure they don't get singed.
That sativa is looking wicked, bro. Might be a tad more sensitive to light (and nutes) than indicas and hybrids. Sativas usually take longer than indicas and hybrids. The very thin leaves sometimes indicate tropical/equatorial varieties that take considerably longer than indicas, hybrids or sats bred for shorter flowering times. If you're a sat fan, you're in for a treat if willing to endure the wait, lol.
Harvesting according to trich color is the best gauge. If you want a day high, cloudy is best. If you like the narcotic stone, amber is best. If you want a mix, chop when the split is closest to your needs.
Clear trichs are a waste of time and money. Save yourself a letdown and avoid the temptation to chop too soon. A cheap microscope from Radio Shack or a 30x jewelers loop will help you see the color better.
Some strains are visible to the naked eye. They'll get a toasted look or you can see the actual trich color and know they're ready.
One more way to gauge when to chop is dead hairs. This isn't the best way because all strains don't cloud, let alone amber when the hairs die. Most of the time, a high percentage of white hairs suggests don't chop just yet.
Your stressed plant would probably do better with plain water for the foreseeable future. Yellowing/wilting fans is a normal process in flowering and will taste better than heavily ferted buds. In fact, you could plain water everything at his point and return to feeding when the ram horn diminishes.
Here's where your NPK is important. Wouldn't want to go back to too much Nitrogen at this point. But you will need more phosphorus and potassium until you're closer to chop. You'll also need a host of micro nutrients but your pH appears to be dialed well enough to avoid visible defs at this point. You're more than likely past he Magnesium jump so that shouldn't be any problem. Higher phosphorus and potassium is what you'll mainly need from here.
If or when you get a visible concern, we'll help you determine what's needed.
Generally, the onset of yellowing fans in the last third of flowering is normal. Some will stay green a bit later w/o affecting taste. Yellowing any earlier may indicate you're feeding too little. But it wouldn't be a good time to hit it with too much Nitrogen that late in flower.
If you get a deficiency while you're plain watering back to medium green, you may have to address that def alone, rather than return to the base nutes. (won't bother you with that right now.
Lol, the first plants I grew didn't even look like weed. You're doing pretty well for the first time. A few tweaks and you'll be well on your way to some great smoke. Hope you're enjoying the ride.
On the up side you don't appear to have any deficiencies. Based on the pics, your nitrogen is a bit high. The dark green tips that curl down are called ram horn. If you're feeding chemical nutes, you can back off a bit. On your next round, tip burn is usually the first sign of overfeeding. Feed a little less and you're giving your plants all they need.
What are you feeding? - Your NPK is the sum of your combined nutes. Micros are listed on the ingredient label.
Doesn't look like your temps are too high. I see a little light burn but it's not bad. Might be less stressful to cut any fan fingers that might overgrow their space. Keep an eye on the flower hairs and make sure they don't get singed.
That sativa is looking wicked, bro. Might be a tad more sensitive to light (and nutes) than indicas and hybrids. Sativas usually take longer than indicas and hybrids. The very thin leaves sometimes indicate tropical/equatorial varieties that take considerably longer than indicas, hybrids or sats bred for shorter flowering times. If you're a sat fan, you're in for a treat if willing to endure the wait, lol.
Harvesting according to trich color is the best gauge. If you want a day high, cloudy is best. If you like the narcotic stone, amber is best. If you want a mix, chop when the split is closest to your needs.
Clear trichs are a waste of time and money. Save yourself a letdown and avoid the temptation to chop too soon. A cheap microscope from Radio Shack or a 30x jewelers loop will help you see the color better.
Some strains are visible to the naked eye. They'll get a toasted look or you can see the actual trich color and know they're ready.
One more way to gauge when to chop is dead hairs. This isn't the best way because all strains don't cloud, let alone amber when the hairs die. Most of the time, a high percentage of white hairs suggests don't chop just yet.
Your stressed plant would probably do better with plain water for the foreseeable future. Yellowing/wilting fans is a normal process in flowering and will taste better than heavily ferted buds. In fact, you could plain water everything at his point and return to feeding when the ram horn diminishes.
Here's where your NPK is important. Wouldn't want to go back to too much Nitrogen at this point. But you will need more phosphorus and potassium until you're closer to chop. You'll also need a host of micro nutrients but your pH appears to be dialed well enough to avoid visible defs at this point. You're more than likely past he Magnesium jump so that shouldn't be any problem. Higher phosphorus and potassium is what you'll mainly need from here.
If or when you get a visible concern, we'll help you determine what's needed.
Generally, the onset of yellowing fans in the last third of flowering is normal. Some will stay green a bit later w/o affecting taste. Yellowing any earlier may indicate you're feeding too little. But it wouldn't be a good time to hit it with too much Nitrogen that late in flower.
If you get a deficiency while you're plain watering back to medium green, you may have to address that def alone, rather than return to the base nutes. (won't bother you with that right now.
Lol, the first plants I grew didn't even look like weed. You're doing pretty well for the first time. A few tweaks and you'll be well on your way to some great smoke. Hope you're enjoying the ride.
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Ok disco thanks for the advice once again! 
For some reason I thought the leaves were doing that because earlier this week i was kinda busy for a few days after work so I didnt get a chance to see how they were doing, whenever I would check them in the morning before I would leave for work it would just be a quick peek into the cab to check the temps and see if they were thirsty.
A few days ago I was finally able to check them out when the lights came on and I notice a few of the branches (on the sativa) were growing past the lights as well as the mutant.
I tied the sat down ONCE AGAIN and raised the lights, during that I noticed the burned tips of leaves and that the tops of the branches that grew past the light were looking like that so I figured maybe its because they weren't getting enough light?
I think it was a few weeks ago when the bottom leaves of the sativa female were turning real yellow and falling off so I fed them some 1/2 strength big bloom thinking they could take it (dumb idea I know) but they started to droop a lil so from then on i got a 16 oz styrofoam cup and filled it up to 1/4 with big bloom and with about twice as much water and have slowly been increasing the ratio of nutes to water and that seems to be working out ok so far.
But now that you mention it disco i'll feed the mutant and the sativa just straight water and see what happens from there.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I attempted to supercrop them and on the sativa I plucked off some of the lower branches all around. And I gave the lonely male to a friend (the one that let me borrow the camera) and it was actually a good high, not too long lasting but oh well, I wanted to get him out of there because keeping around the girls was starting to make me nervous
For some reason I thought the leaves were doing that because earlier this week i was kinda busy for a few days after work so I didnt get a chance to see how they were doing, whenever I would check them in the morning before I would leave for work it would just be a quick peek into the cab to check the temps and see if they were thirsty.
A few days ago I was finally able to check them out when the lights came on and I notice a few of the branches (on the sativa) were growing past the lights as well as the mutant.
I tied the sat down ONCE AGAIN and raised the lights, during that I noticed the burned tips of leaves and that the tops of the branches that grew past the light were looking like that so I figured maybe its because they weren't getting enough light?
I think it was a few weeks ago when the bottom leaves of the sativa female were turning real yellow and falling off so I fed them some 1/2 strength big bloom thinking they could take it (dumb idea I know) but they started to droop a lil so from then on i got a 16 oz styrofoam cup and filled it up to 1/4 with big bloom and with about twice as much water and have slowly been increasing the ratio of nutes to water and that seems to be working out ok so far.
But now that you mention it disco i'll feed the mutant and the sativa just straight water and see what happens from there.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I attempted to supercrop them and on the sativa I plucked off some of the lower branches all around. And I gave the lonely male to a friend (the one that let me borrow the camera) and it was actually a good high, not too long lasting but oh well, I wanted to get him out of there because keeping around the girls was starting to make me nervous
