Japan has at least 22 nuclear power plants...they want to build 25 more...I think it's a dumb idea.Run on natural gas japan..saves you the trouble of building crappy cars too.
Major Earthquake In Japan Major Tsunamis
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BillHicksLives
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^^ Please dont encourage something you nothing about, because if you did, then you would know natural gas drilling is pretty much killing our whole entire midwest. "Fracking" is a term you need to be acquainted with.
Science is just as much a religion as others, it just requires a semi-objective viewpoint to be inserted multiple times. The main difference that scientists push between the two is the subjectivity in religion while the objectivity in science. We now know no true objectivity exists as we are all co-creators of this universe. Therefore our basis on science is completely under minded. Think of science like this, A human looking through a tiny whole in a box full of lights trying to describe what he sees to another without a common language. So they develop one that is conditional on what they see at that given time. Now if you put another whole in that box on another side, they will see something completely different. Same lights, different perspective. So now there is another attempt to describe what we see, based on another arbitrary language. There is no script, underlining law, or anything of the sorts that would actually "govern" our existence. Merely relationships, no hierarchy.
Science is just as much a religion as others, it just requires a semi-objective viewpoint to be inserted multiple times. The main difference that scientists push between the two is the subjectivity in religion while the objectivity in science. We now know no true objectivity exists as we are all co-creators of this universe. Therefore our basis on science is completely under minded. Think of science like this, A human looking through a tiny whole in a box full of lights trying to describe what he sees to another without a common language. So they develop one that is conditional on what they see at that given time. Now if you put another whole in that box on another side, they will see something completely different. Same lights, different perspective. So now there is another attempt to describe what we see, based on another arbitrary language. There is no script, underlining law, or anything of the sorts that would actually "govern" our existence. Merely relationships, no hierarchy.
Fracking is terrible...And so is "Natural" gas.Not so Natural after all.
Hope Spring Water is as natural as it comes... So Run off H20 Japan !!
Hope Spring Water is as natural as it comes... So Run off H20 Japan !!
California tsunami damage estimated at $50 million
http://www.inlandnewstoday.com/story.php?s=18221
from a series of waves that originated 10,000mis away....
http://www.inlandnewstoday.com/story.php?s=18221
from a series of waves that originated 10,000mis away....
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BOSCO
Jesus it keeps getting worse for the poor japs 
The Shinmoedake volcano on Japan's Kyushu island, after lying dormant for a couple of weeks, resumes activity in a blast heard miles away. It was unclear if the eruption was linked to Friday's massive earthquake in the north.
Sunday's eruption, which was the biggest volcanic activity in Shinmoedake in 52 years, caused widespread destruction and panic. The blast could be heard for miles, and shattered windows four miles away, the BBC reported. Hundreds of people fled the area as the volcano spewed debris, including hot ash and rocks, more than 6,000 feet in the air, according to BBC reports.
Earthquake, tsunami, nuclear accidents and now a volcano, it's like something from some doomsday film on the sci-fi channel.
The Shinmoedake volcano on Japan's Kyushu island, after lying dormant for a couple of weeks, resumes activity in a blast heard miles away. It was unclear if the eruption was linked to Friday's massive earthquake in the north.
Sunday's eruption, which was the biggest volcanic activity in Shinmoedake in 52 years, caused widespread destruction and panic. The blast could be heard for miles, and shattered windows four miles away, the BBC reported. Hundreds of people fled the area as the volcano spewed debris, including hot ash and rocks, more than 6,000 feet in the air, according to BBC reports.
Earthquake, tsunami, nuclear accidents and now a volcano, it's like something from some doomsday film on the sci-fi channel.
Meteorologist, astrophysicist, consultant, and owner of the business Weather Action, Piers Corbyn, talks with Alex about the Japanese tsunami.
He believes the sun and moon helped to trigger the quake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVOnML1jtE&feature=related
If, (and its a big if) the nuclear reactor has gone into full meltdown there is a realistic chance the radiation will enter the jetstream and be in the west coast USA in around 36 hours. Go and buy some potassium iodide NOW! Why take the chance? I very much hope this isnt the case and the Japanese have got their shit together...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/if-ther...y-be-blown-out-towards-the-us-west-coast.html
He believes the sun and moon helped to trigger the quake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVOnML1jtE&feature=related
If, (and its a big if) the nuclear reactor has gone into full meltdown there is a realistic chance the radiation will enter the jetstream and be in the west coast USA in around 36 hours. Go and buy some potassium iodide NOW! Why take the chance? I very much hope this isnt the case and the Japanese have got their shit together...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/if-ther...y-be-blown-out-towards-the-us-west-coast.html
BlackThumbGrowr
Member
where do u get your facts, mate? there's been over 100 smaller aftershocks
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Mountain
I said...
...meaning something to cause 'significant' (how ever you want to define that) additional damage. I got a Kiwi friend that owns a house in Christchurch and it was an aftershock that was much less intense than the initial quake that hit the area which caused the damage. The aftershock was what really hurt Christchurch and was months after the initial quake.
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about...you dig?
ohhh goodness...
I was reading into Fracking of the Natural gas and seen that it's not a good thing when a company has to pump thousands of gallons of drinkable water and mix it with other harmful chemicals just to reach the natural gas...So japan running off natural gas is not a good idea or any other way and means of using natural gas when it's dangerous to humans just getting the natural gas out of the earth.
Sure u.s.a has 100 year supply of it.Still doesn't make it ok to use it.
Japan wants to make 25 more Nuclear power plants on top of the 22 they already have.I think that is way too much and risky not finding other ways and means of using any type of energy like green energy.Building plants that close to the ocean is the worst idea that goes with floor mats in their cars blocking the gas and brake pedals.Not to mention they get tsunami every now and then.
With the size of Japan..Green energy would work wonders and save the environment.When its H20...it could be steam or more hydro electric dams from mountain Fuji.
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I was reading into Fracking of the Natural gas and seen that it's not a good thing when a company has to pump thousands of gallons of drinkable water and mix it with other harmful chemicals just to reach the natural gas...So japan running off natural gas is not a good idea or any other way and means of using natural gas when it's dangerous to humans just getting the natural gas out of the earth.
Sure u.s.a has 100 year supply of it.Still doesn't make it ok to use it.
Japan wants to make 25 more Nuclear power plants on top of the 22 they already have.I think that is way too much and risky not finding other ways and means of using any type of energy like green energy.Building plants that close to the ocean is the worst idea that goes with floor mats in their cars blocking the gas and brake pedals.Not to mention they get tsunami every now and then.
With the size of Japan..Green energy would work wonders and save the environment.When its H20...it could be steam or more hydro electric dams from mountain Fuji.
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Wait, what..? Lol.
I like your website.
So because one man says so it becomes true. Interesting. Well, let me counter-argue using your logic:
David Reneke says "It's just coincidence. If you try hard enough you can chronologically associate almost any natural disaster or event to anything in the night sky." An example? In the past people thought the sun would be pulled apart when the planets aligned. Hmm.. I guess that one never came true, on to the next fear mongering example! Natural disasters happen because they are natural.
It's very easy to say things without backing up what you say. In other words, it's quite easy to be a skeptic, and even easier if you are a stupid skeptic.
What is it with peoples' obsessions with global disaster?
January 1, 1000 AD. Documented history of knights, and pilgrims and religious peoples visiting Jerusalem, waiting for Armageddon.
1843-1844 a couple of public followed nutjobs were saying this is when the world ends. Nothing happened, did it?
Y2K.. Lol.
June 6, 2006. 6/6/06 Give me a break...
2012. Ya.. I can't wait to hear that one. Then when it happens, the date will be pushed a couple times, or some famous cult idiot will convince the mass that the date was wrong by 100 years because of the way it was written or something stupid.
3797 is when Nostradamus predicts the world will end.
Piers isnt predicting the end of the world. You must be confused or more likely havent watched the interview. He accurately predicted the Russian heatwave and Pakistani floods months before they occured. Statistically speaking he is 83% accurate 12 months out. The numbers dont lie.
Have a nice day
C
cyberwax
Japan earthquake/tsunami
Japan earthquake/tsunami
You all seen the videos im sure, but this one; watch it and be scared!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bf_1300048617
Japan earthquake/tsunami
You all seen the videos im sure, but this one; watch it and be scared!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0bf_1300048617
Damn..kinda makes a fella feel small. In sig nef I cant...
More evidence and accurate predictions
More evidence and accurate predictions
http://www.prisonplanet.com/both-ja...y-predicted-last-month-by-solar-watchers.html
Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
March 14, 2011
Watch the incredible video below, posted to Youtube on February 15th, that predicts both recent earthquakes in Japan and New Zealand by analyzing solar activity.
The video highlights the Japanese islands as the main area of concern and predicts that an earthquake of magnitude 8 or larger could hit due to the effect of increased sun spot activity on our planet, in particular an X class solar flare and a significant hit of the Earth by a recent Coronal Mass Ejection.
It also predicts possible volcanic eruptions around the Japan Islands, an eventuality that has also played out with the eruption of the the Shinmoedake volcano in south-western Japan yesterday, which sent ash and rock over two miles into the atmosphere. As is annotated on the video, another volcano, Sakirajima, also produced explosive eruptions on February 21st.
The video also cites “a potential event around 45-50 Degrees Latitude, most likely fit region is the base or South Island New Zealand”, adding that the “possible magnitude could be 6.2 to 6.5″. The earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand, occurred just a week later on February 21st and measured 6.3.
Alarmingly for Americans, the Gulf Of California is also cited as a potential hotspot for imminent earthquake activity.
Now watch the following exclusive interview with Meteorologist, astrophysicist, consultant, and owner of the business Weather Action, Piers Corbyn, who goes over in more detail with Alex Jones how solar activity is triggering natural events that can be disastrous to us here on Earth.
Of course, you won’t hear any of this information from the mainstream media, who are already ridiculously citing global warming caused by humans as a potential causal effect.
More evidence and accurate predictions
http://www.prisonplanet.com/both-ja...y-predicted-last-month-by-solar-watchers.html
Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
March 14, 2011
Watch the incredible video below, posted to Youtube on February 15th, that predicts both recent earthquakes in Japan and New Zealand by analyzing solar activity.
The video highlights the Japanese islands as the main area of concern and predicts that an earthquake of magnitude 8 or larger could hit due to the effect of increased sun spot activity on our planet, in particular an X class solar flare and a significant hit of the Earth by a recent Coronal Mass Ejection.
It also predicts possible volcanic eruptions around the Japan Islands, an eventuality that has also played out with the eruption of the the Shinmoedake volcano in south-western Japan yesterday, which sent ash and rock over two miles into the atmosphere. As is annotated on the video, another volcano, Sakirajima, also produced explosive eruptions on February 21st.
The video also cites “a potential event around 45-50 Degrees Latitude, most likely fit region is the base or South Island New Zealand”, adding that the “possible magnitude could be 6.2 to 6.5″. The earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand, occurred just a week later on February 21st and measured 6.3.
Alarmingly for Americans, the Gulf Of California is also cited as a potential hotspot for imminent earthquake activity.
Now watch the following exclusive interview with Meteorologist, astrophysicist, consultant, and owner of the business Weather Action, Piers Corbyn, who goes over in more detail with Alex Jones how solar activity is triggering natural events that can be disastrous to us here on Earth.
Of course, you won’t hear any of this information from the mainstream media, who are already ridiculously citing global warming caused by humans as a potential causal effect.
Japanese nuclear disaster
Japanese nuclear disaster
3 reactors badly damaged. 2 large explosions. A major disaster to rival and perhaps supercede Cherynobyl... any way you look at this its a huge disaster with implications for the whole world.
This is not fear mongering or sensationalism. I am hesistant to make this thread but people need a heads up.
If you live west coast North America the chances of any radiation being brought over the Pacific by the jetstream is very high. :/
Consider these articles:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/chain-r...-reactors-in-quake-hit-city-will-explode.html
Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, March 14, 2011
All the nuclear reactors at the earthquake stricken Fukushima nuclear plant are under threat of melting down and exploding in a chain reaction that will signify the world’s worst ever nuclear disaster and send clouds of radioactive particles hurtling towards the United States – that’s the scale of the crisis facing Japan as officials admit for the first time that three nuclear reactors are already in a meltdown.
While the mainstream media continues to argue over the definition of a “meltdown” while unquestionably regurgitating the dubious claim of Japanese officials that the two massive explosions witnessed at the plant were caused by pressurized hydrogen, radioactive isotopes cesium-137 and iodine-121 have been detected by helicopters flying 160km (100 miles) away from the nuclear plant, which can only mean one thing, according to the Seattle Times: “One or more of the reactor cores is badly damaged and at least partially melted down.”
After claiming for three days that the explosions did not damage reactor cores and downplaying the severity of the situation, Japanese officials have now been forced to admit the obvious, that nuclear fuel rods in three reactors are melting. Given the sequence of events, it is entirely probable that all six reactor sites will now go into total meltdown and start spewing radioactive particles into the atmosphere that threaten not only Japanese citizens but also those living on the west coast of the United States.
The two explosions have already compromised the surrounding facilities. Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated from a 20-km exclusion zone around the plant which keeps growing. Latest reports suggest that the exclusion zone is already at 50km and expanding. Casualties in the immediate vicinity of the nuclear facilities are likely to be far higher than reported.
Japanese authorities, presumably in an effort to prevent hysteria, have engaged in a cover-up of the true scale of the Fukushima crisis from start to finish, and they have been largely aided by a mass media that has slavishly repeated their lies without question, despite the fact that there is a long history of covering up nuclear catastrophes in Japan. This process has only put the Japanese people in more danger.
Amidst the disgusting spectacle of a castrated and inept corporate mass media failing to ask hard questions about the true scale of the Fukushima crisis, a handful of nuclear experts are attempting to blow the whistle.
As reported by the BBC:
Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima’s reactor core, says the design was not enough to withstand earthquakes or tsunamis and the plant’s builders, Toshiba, knew this.
Mr Goto says his greatest fear is that blasts at number 3 and number 1 reactors may have damaged the steel casing of the containment vessel designed to stop radioactive material escaping into the atmosphere.
He says that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel. Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, p lutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says.
Goto warns that Japanese authorities have suppressed the true severity of the crisis and that there is “a severe risk of an explosion, with radioactive material being strewn over a very wide area – beyond the 20km evacuation zone set up by the authorities,” adding that the worst case scenario would manifest itself as “many Chernobyls,” and that the effect would be, “Like a volcano spreading radioactive material.”
Nuclear expert Joe Cirincione warns that radiation from Japan’s multiple potential nuclear meltdowns could spread to the US west coast and that the threat represents an “unprecedented crisis.”
Yoichi Shimatsu, former editor of the Japan Times, states that after a high-level government meeting, “Japanese agencies are no longer releasing independent reports without prior approval from the top,” and that censorship of what is really occurring at the plant is being overseen under the Article 15 Emergency Law.
Professor Richard Wakeford, a nuclear expert at Manchester University, said yesterday: ‘If the fuel is not covered by cooling water it could become so hot it begins to melt – if all the fuel is uncovered you could get a large-scale meltdown.’
Today it looks as if that scenario is playing out.
Shaun Burnie, an independent atomic energy consultant, also warns that Japan’s nuclear crisis is much worse than it seems:
The US has moved one of its aircraft carriers from the area after detecting low-level radiation 160km (100 miles) offshore.
The Japanese government is playing down the scale of the disaster, however, experts have pointed out that it has a long history of nuclear cover ups, and that this is merely the latest.
Documentary filmmaker Tony Barrell says in 2003 reactors across the country had to be shut down after it emerged the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) had hid accidents.
“They had to shut down 17 plants in 2003 because they’d been falsifying the records about what had been happening at them,” he said.
“Lives were threatened, systems broke down, there were failures to report and there were cover-ups. People pretended things hadn’t happened.”
Barrell says several other major incidents have occurred and gone relatively unreported:
“A place called Monju, which in 1995 sprang a leak in its liquid sodium cooling system which made the whole thing absolutely red hot and had to be shut down immediately and stayed shut down until the beginning of last year – 15 years,” he told ABC News in Australia.
Barrell also pointed out that the Fukushima Daiichi plant should have been shut down long ago because it is now 40 years old.
Should other plants in Japan experience complete meltdowns, the entire country could become a nuclear wasteground, and the radiation could engulf large areas of the planet, leading to huge numbers of cancers and future birth deformities.
and this:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/15/3163913.html
Japan on meltdown alert
By Hayden Cooper, Stephen McDonell and wires
Updated 45 minutes ago
A soldier smiles as he holds a four-month-old baby who survived the Japanese tsunami
Survivor: A soldier smiles as he holds a four-month-old baby who survived the tsunami (AFP : Yomiuri Shimbun )
Japan has officially asked the UN atomic watchdog to send a team of experts to help stave off a nuclear emergency following Friday's massive earthquake and tsunami.
Two explosions have already rocked the Fukushima plant and now fuel rods at the plant's No. 2 reactor are exposed and at risk of meltdown.
But as Japan struggles to deal with the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami which are feared to have killed more than 10,000 people, government officials are playing down the nuclear concerns, insisting the situation is under control.
Authorities say the fuel rods in the reactor became fully exposed after the system that pumps cooling water through the reactor failed late last night.
Radiation and pressure levels jumped and engineers are trying to stabilise the situation.
Air pressure inside the reactor rose suddenly when the air flow gauge was accidentally turned off, blocking the flow of water and leading to full exposure of the rods, operator TEPCO said.
"We are not optimistic but I think we can inject water once we can reopen the valve and lower air pressure," a TEPCO official told reporters.
Japan's top government spokesman Yukio Edano said a major explosion was unlikely and insisted the government was not facing a Chernobyl-style disaster. He said engineers were pumping seawater in to stabilise the reactor and radiation around the plant was at tolerable levels.
A hydrogen explosion blew apart the building housing the plant's No. 1 reactor on Saturday, while a second explosion yesterday rocked the building housing the No. 3 reactor, injuring 11 people.
Authorities have declared an exclusion zone within a 20-kilometre radius of the plant and evacuated 210,000 people.
At one shelter a young woman holding her baby told public broadcaster NHK: "I didn't want this baby to be exposed to radiation. I wanted to avoid that no matter what."
This morning the head of the UN atomic watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said it was "very unlikely" the Fukushima crisis would turn into a Chernobyl-like situation.
"Let me say the possibility that the development of this accident into one like Chernobyl is very unlikely," Yukiya Amano told a news conference at IAEA headquarters in Vienna.
Aftershocks are still frightening Japan, with another big tremor hitting Tokyo this morning. Buildings shook for about 10 seconds, keeping the already nervous population on edge.
'Scene from hell'
Many survivors spent another night without water, electricity, fuel or enough food as authorities appeared overwhelmed by the monumental scale of the disaster.
Emergency helicopters fly up and down the coast of devastated Miyagi prefecture, keeping an eye out for any further tsunamis and dropping rescue workers into the worst hit areas.
On the ground, officials are keeping virtually anybody but rescue teams out of the coastal communities flattened by the huge waves.
Police in devastated Yamashita have started the grim task of looking for bodies. They are going through the smashed houses and every time they find a new body, they bring a stretcher and they all bow and pray before taking the body out, placing it in a body bag, wrapping it up and then taking it away to a makeshift morgue.
Searchers have found 2,000 bodies in the Miyagi region. The local police chief said the death toll there was certain to exceed 10,000, with that many missing in the port town of Minamisanriku alone.
"It's a scene from hell, absolutely nightmarish," said Patrick Fuller of the International Red Cross Federation from the north-eastern coastal town of Otsuchi.
The authorities remain on high alert, with aftershocks regularly occurring and fears of more tsunamis.
On Monday a new tsunami scare triggered evacuations on the devastated north-east coast after a large wave was spotted rolling in to shore, but authorities later lifted an alert.
The United Nations said 590,000 people had been evacuated in the aftermath of the quake and tsunami disaster.
With ports, airports, highways and manufacturing plants shut down, the government has predicted "considerable impact on a wide range of our country's economic activities".
- ABC/wires
Now the fears of a meltdown and consequent cloud of deadly radiation may well be overblown. But why take the chance? Japan is renowned for covering up nuclear incidents as are most every governments around the world.
If i was in west coast North America i would be filling my bathtub or whatever containers i had with fresh water, stocking up on food and trying to get iodine tablets to protect my and my family's thyroid gland.
One of my good friends is currently on holiday in USA and is in the direct path of any fallout... as are many members on these boards.
Better safe than sorry!
Best wishes and positive vibes to all.
Japanese nuclear disaster
3 reactors badly damaged. 2 large explosions. A major disaster to rival and perhaps supercede Cherynobyl... any way you look at this its a huge disaster with implications for the whole world.
This is not fear mongering or sensationalism. I am hesistant to make this thread but people need a heads up.
If you live west coast North America the chances of any radiation being brought over the Pacific by the jetstream is very high. :/
Consider these articles:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/chain-r...-reactors-in-quake-hit-city-will-explode.html
Paul Joseph Watson & Steve Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, March 14, 2011
All the nuclear reactors at the earthquake stricken Fukushima nuclear plant are under threat of melting down and exploding in a chain reaction that will signify the world’s worst ever nuclear disaster and send clouds of radioactive particles hurtling towards the United States – that’s the scale of the crisis facing Japan as officials admit for the first time that three nuclear reactors are already in a meltdown.
While the mainstream media continues to argue over the definition of a “meltdown” while unquestionably regurgitating the dubious claim of Japanese officials that the two massive explosions witnessed at the plant were caused by pressurized hydrogen, radioactive isotopes cesium-137 and iodine-121 have been detected by helicopters flying 160km (100 miles) away from the nuclear plant, which can only mean one thing, according to the Seattle Times: “One or more of the reactor cores is badly damaged and at least partially melted down.”
After claiming for three days that the explosions did not damage reactor cores and downplaying the severity of the situation, Japanese officials have now been forced to admit the obvious, that nuclear fuel rods in three reactors are melting. Given the sequence of events, it is entirely probable that all six reactor sites will now go into total meltdown and start spewing radioactive particles into the atmosphere that threaten not only Japanese citizens but also those living on the west coast of the United States.
The two explosions have already compromised the surrounding facilities. Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated from a 20-km exclusion zone around the plant which keeps growing. Latest reports suggest that the exclusion zone is already at 50km and expanding. Casualties in the immediate vicinity of the nuclear facilities are likely to be far higher than reported.
Japanese authorities, presumably in an effort to prevent hysteria, have engaged in a cover-up of the true scale of the Fukushima crisis from start to finish, and they have been largely aided by a mass media that has slavishly repeated their lies without question, despite the fact that there is a long history of covering up nuclear catastrophes in Japan. This process has only put the Japanese people in more danger.
Amidst the disgusting spectacle of a castrated and inept corporate mass media failing to ask hard questions about the true scale of the Fukushima crisis, a handful of nuclear experts are attempting to blow the whistle.
As reported by the BBC:
Japanese engineer Masashi Goto, who helped design the containment vessel for Fukushima’s reactor core, says the design was not enough to withstand earthquakes or tsunamis and the plant’s builders, Toshiba, knew this.
Mr Goto says his greatest fear is that blasts at number 3 and number 1 reactors may have damaged the steel casing of the containment vessel designed to stop radioactive material escaping into the atmosphere.
He says that as the reactor uses mox (mixed oxide) fuel, the melting point is lower than that of conventional fuel. Should a meltdown and an explosion occur, he says, p lutonium could be spread over an area up to twice as far as estimated for a conventional nuclear fuel explosion. The next 24 hours are critical, he says.
Goto warns that Japanese authorities have suppressed the true severity of the crisis and that there is “a severe risk of an explosion, with radioactive material being strewn over a very wide area – beyond the 20km evacuation zone set up by the authorities,” adding that the worst case scenario would manifest itself as “many Chernobyls,” and that the effect would be, “Like a volcano spreading radioactive material.”
Nuclear expert Joe Cirincione warns that radiation from Japan’s multiple potential nuclear meltdowns could spread to the US west coast and that the threat represents an “unprecedented crisis.”
Yoichi Shimatsu, former editor of the Japan Times, states that after a high-level government meeting, “Japanese agencies are no longer releasing independent reports without prior approval from the top,” and that censorship of what is really occurring at the plant is being overseen under the Article 15 Emergency Law.
Professor Richard Wakeford, a nuclear expert at Manchester University, said yesterday: ‘If the fuel is not covered by cooling water it could become so hot it begins to melt – if all the fuel is uncovered you could get a large-scale meltdown.’
Today it looks as if that scenario is playing out.
Shaun Burnie, an independent atomic energy consultant, also warns that Japan’s nuclear crisis is much worse than it seems:
The US has moved one of its aircraft carriers from the area after detecting low-level radiation 160km (100 miles) offshore.
The Japanese government is playing down the scale of the disaster, however, experts have pointed out that it has a long history of nuclear cover ups, and that this is merely the latest.
Documentary filmmaker Tony Barrell says in 2003 reactors across the country had to be shut down after it emerged the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) had hid accidents.
“They had to shut down 17 plants in 2003 because they’d been falsifying the records about what had been happening at them,” he said.
“Lives were threatened, systems broke down, there were failures to report and there were cover-ups. People pretended things hadn’t happened.”
Barrell says several other major incidents have occurred and gone relatively unreported:
“A place called Monju, which in 1995 sprang a leak in its liquid sodium cooling system which made the whole thing absolutely red hot and had to be shut down immediately and stayed shut down until the beginning of last year – 15 years,” he told ABC News in Australia.
Barrell also pointed out that the Fukushima Daiichi plant should have been shut down long ago because it is now 40 years old.
Should other plants in Japan experience complete meltdowns, the entire country could become a nuclear wasteground, and the radiation could engulf large areas of the planet, leading to huge numbers of cancers and future birth deformities.
and this:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/15/3163913.html
Japan on meltdown alert
By Hayden Cooper, Stephen McDonell and wires
Updated 45 minutes ago
A soldier smiles as he holds a four-month-old baby who survived the Japanese tsunami
Survivor: A soldier smiles as he holds a four-month-old baby who survived the tsunami (AFP : Yomiuri Shimbun )
Japan has officially asked the UN atomic watchdog to send a team of experts to help stave off a nuclear emergency following Friday's massive earthquake and tsunami.
Two explosions have already rocked the Fukushima plant and now fuel rods at the plant's No. 2 reactor are exposed and at risk of meltdown.
But as Japan struggles to deal with the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami which are feared to have killed more than 10,000 people, government officials are playing down the nuclear concerns, insisting the situation is under control.
Authorities say the fuel rods in the reactor became fully exposed after the system that pumps cooling water through the reactor failed late last night.
Radiation and pressure levels jumped and engineers are trying to stabilise the situation.
Air pressure inside the reactor rose suddenly when the air flow gauge was accidentally turned off, blocking the flow of water and leading to full exposure of the rods, operator TEPCO said.
"We are not optimistic but I think we can inject water once we can reopen the valve and lower air pressure," a TEPCO official told reporters.
Japan's top government spokesman Yukio Edano said a major explosion was unlikely and insisted the government was not facing a Chernobyl-style disaster. He said engineers were pumping seawater in to stabilise the reactor and radiation around the plant was at tolerable levels.
A hydrogen explosion blew apart the building housing the plant's No. 1 reactor on Saturday, while a second explosion yesterday rocked the building housing the No. 3 reactor, injuring 11 people.
Authorities have declared an exclusion zone within a 20-kilometre radius of the plant and evacuated 210,000 people.
At one shelter a young woman holding her baby told public broadcaster NHK: "I didn't want this baby to be exposed to radiation. I wanted to avoid that no matter what."
This morning the head of the UN atomic watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said it was "very unlikely" the Fukushima crisis would turn into a Chernobyl-like situation.
"Let me say the possibility that the development of this accident into one like Chernobyl is very unlikely," Yukiya Amano told a news conference at IAEA headquarters in Vienna.
Aftershocks are still frightening Japan, with another big tremor hitting Tokyo this morning. Buildings shook for about 10 seconds, keeping the already nervous population on edge.
'Scene from hell'
Many survivors spent another night without water, electricity, fuel or enough food as authorities appeared overwhelmed by the monumental scale of the disaster.
Emergency helicopters fly up and down the coast of devastated Miyagi prefecture, keeping an eye out for any further tsunamis and dropping rescue workers into the worst hit areas.
On the ground, officials are keeping virtually anybody but rescue teams out of the coastal communities flattened by the huge waves.
Police in devastated Yamashita have started the grim task of looking for bodies. They are going through the smashed houses and every time they find a new body, they bring a stretcher and they all bow and pray before taking the body out, placing it in a body bag, wrapping it up and then taking it away to a makeshift morgue.
Searchers have found 2,000 bodies in the Miyagi region. The local police chief said the death toll there was certain to exceed 10,000, with that many missing in the port town of Minamisanriku alone.
"It's a scene from hell, absolutely nightmarish," said Patrick Fuller of the International Red Cross Federation from the north-eastern coastal town of Otsuchi.
The authorities remain on high alert, with aftershocks regularly occurring and fears of more tsunamis.
On Monday a new tsunami scare triggered evacuations on the devastated north-east coast after a large wave was spotted rolling in to shore, but authorities later lifted an alert.
The United Nations said 590,000 people had been evacuated in the aftermath of the quake and tsunami disaster.
With ports, airports, highways and manufacturing plants shut down, the government has predicted "considerable impact on a wide range of our country's economic activities".
- ABC/wires
Now the fears of a meltdown and consequent cloud of deadly radiation may well be overblown. But why take the chance? Japan is renowned for covering up nuclear incidents as are most every governments around the world.
If i was in west coast North America i would be filling my bathtub or whatever containers i had with fresh water, stocking up on food and trying to get iodine tablets to protect my and my family's thyroid gland.
One of my good friends is currently on holiday in USA and is in the direct path of any fallout... as are many members on these boards.
Better safe than sorry!
Best wishes and positive vibes to all.
E
elmanito
Another option of the big disaster
Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&feature=player_embedded#at=238
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Conspiracy of Science - Earth is in fact growing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJfBSc6e7QQ&feature=player_embedded#at=238
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#2 reactor exploded too. Possible suppression containment breach. 10,000 times higher radiation and operators told to evacuate. http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=3
from what i've seen, it's an adjoining building/structure that exploded
sounds like 2(or 3) of those have exploded, but have not breached the reactor containment structures
or so it appears last check
but this is some serious shit hitting the fan, even the best case isn't too good
it will be unbelievable cleanup costs on these beasts
EDIT: appears the state of the #2 reactor is unknown - http://www.cnbc.com/id/42079510
if it goes like the other 2 explosions, the reactor containment should have held, hopefully it did
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This certainly speaks to the Japanese culture. It is an amazing one. This is sad to see.
Why is there no looting in Japan? Telegraph
Why is there no looting in Japan? Telegraph
This uncertainty over possible further worsening of the reactors (they detected a leak in one ) plus loss of power & disruption to the country & massive scale damages has led to a huge 2 day sell-off in their markets...and across Asia today . Everythings getting hit , from autos , Utilities , electronics even the material builders that stand to gain from this . (As well as all Uranium stocks are getting severely punished here & there )
This is yesterdays 6% loss on the Japanese Nikkei stock market which not showing todays trading over there which took this market down another 12% to 8422 which isn't even showing on this chart. This is an unprecedented fall in their market equal to the Natural disaster itself . Japan is the world's 3rd largest economy & our trading partner who have been struggling for years to keep themselves balanced ... huge losses to anyone invested over there .
This chart doesn't even go down that low , its a terribly severe blow to the Japanese , hopefull our market will step in tomorrow & help pick them up or fall itself...tomorrow next few days will tell . Should a full meltdown occur in their reactor sites we could see even more collapse .
terrible blow here another day of this will be the equal of a meltdown
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well, so much for that theory.......
