VerdantGreen's quarters - 250HPS organic mod.scrog

[VerdantGreen]

NB, Sour Diesel dna cut will now be referred to as Original Diesel.

NB, Sour Diesel dna cut will now be referred to as Original Diesel.

green.is.good - thanks, Mr G. seems to have saved a real gem with his Cherry Bomb ibl

Blimey - yeah brown it is lol, i think they go around 10 weeks which looks about right.

hey herb thanks, yeah ill get in contact for a little meet - up

dao - yeah the cuts are a pleasure to work with, although im still having trouble rooting the (now called) original Diesel. i have a couple of reveg ones in there now. they look like they will yield well too.

strass, the Cherry Bombs are from Mr. Greengenes who made an ibl out of some maui wowie bagseeds. he sent some packes to the bay for the server fund. there were a few packs still up there a week or so ago. the 1 and 2 are just the numbers i gave them.

hazy - hi mate, yeah what LLP says about the Sour D cut is correct - those guys bought that cut to europe and so their name stuck to it, although most people think it's the Original Diesel/diesel number 1/ AJ Cut / Headband - from now on i will refer to it as Original Diesel if thats ok with everyone. when you said it was Sour Diesel is that what you were thinking of???
there are a few different SD cuts around the UK and it gets confusing lol.

LLP - yeah its easily the nicest looking plant ive grown. smells great too. i rooted a cut of it that looks to be revegging nicely. i bet the other one turns out to be better smoke though - sods law!

Ekz_Ray - the quadrifoliate Deep Chunk yielded well and is a nice smoke - although no better than any other DC's ive smoked. unfortunately i lost the cut i rooted. i made some seeds with it though.

cheers

VG

 

[mad librettist]

funny how the grass is always greener... out here, we are so sick of sour d! (well I am anyway)

 

[Ekz_Ray]

damn that sucks, i was hoping the poly yeild was better than a noraml vertical grow...

 

[heady blunts]

VG lovely update.

you really have everything so well dialed in. it's always an inspiration to check out your grows.

 

[Marn]

That Cherry Bomb really does look amazing. I have a 25"x23" space in my closet that i'm going to throw a 250 into and mimic your mod scrog setup. If you're pulling in 70 grams per plant i'll be more than happy with 50g's. Got any advice for me before I pick up the light and build my cab?

 

[skyspider]

hi VG ,
I have been following your grows and they are truly awe inspiring .. I use almost the same methods asa you , except I run an auto and a 'normal' indica dom plant and when the auto is cooked the other one has vegged sufficiently to go on 12 12 , sometimes I just flip it on fl;owering cycle anyway if the 'normal' plant is getting out of hand .. I scrog the normal plant in roughly half of the 2x2 space ...and when the auto is gone I train it into the other half ... I will post some pics etc as I go on with the current grow , at the moment they are only seedlings 'afghan kush ryder' , speed queen and one called 'Zero gravity' ...2 are fems the speed queen could be either ... I pulled nearly 8 oz on the last grow I did this way , whiteberry and lowryder2 .. I got 65 grams off the lowryder which is a VERY good yeild from one of those ..my normal plants however, tend to stretch and never get the even canopy that I have seen so many times in your grows ...could I ask , how long you normally veg your plants ?

 

[VerdantGreen]

mad - yeah its not so much a case of grass being greener - rather i like to grow out as many different strains as possible and im interested to see how these elites compare to my own selections. i love smoking new stuff as well.

Eks, like i said i think it yielded a bit better than normal (the quad DC)

heady - thanks. its not so much 'dialled in' because most times i am growing strains/cuts for the first time. u just try and have a 'universal' soil mix which everything is happy in. im pretty anal at getting this exactly the same each time with only a couple of variables that i tweak with research on the strain.

marn, sounds good. try and get the best reflector you can for the 'footprint' of your cab, and think about the environment and how you can make it as good as possible. think it through basically

skyspider - sounds like you have a good system. u tend to veg my plants 2-4 weeks, but it varies. i like them to be fairly old before flowering so i top them to keep them short.

VG

 

[dc1]

How many grams are you yielding under the 250 now that you've got things dialed in over the years?

 

[skyspider]

yeah I top them too but they still manage to outgrow the bloody cab... I took some tips from yourself today and went and got some fish blood and bone .. I was trying to get dolomite but the local shop had never heard of it ... Is it similar in nature to potash?

 

[killerweed31]

from what I see verdant I missed several beautiful things, your work goes very well !!

 

[VerdantGreen]

dc1 - i average around 10 ounces each round. i dont choose the strains for high yield so i reckon i could get a bit more with 4 high yielders in there.

skyspider - the dolomite lime is a mixture of calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate. its a very good additive. buffers the mix and adds cal+mag.

hey kiilerweed thanks

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right todays pics. we are passing the 8 week point and my work here is pretty much done. been feeding the diesels and the CB's in the past few weeks but now we are past 8 weeks i'll let them do their thing and fade out.

the Cherry Bombs are at 58 days
CB1

CB2

and the diesels.
ECSD is at 8 weeks

and what im now calling the Original Diesel is at 53 days

VG

 

[Fire On High]

Looks good.

 

[Marn]

Thanks for the advice as always, VG. The Cherry Bomb may be some of the prettiest buds i've ever seen. I wonder how they will like after they're dried and cured.

 

[daoboxer]

What a beautiful sight that must be, when you open the door of your cab! It all looks so good...the CherryBombs look amazing and those white fists of the Diesels-knockout. Looks like the Diesels have still got some filling out to do...what d'ya reckon? How long are you gonna take 'em?
Inspiring stuff mate.

 

[hazydreams]

id say CB2 is a keeper.... blowing my mind man....

 

[Mr.Farmer]

That was awesome, man. The page just loaded right on that badass pic of the Cherry Bomb before jumping down to the bottom.

What kind of seeds you making with her?

 

[VerdantGreen]

Fire On High - yeah its lookin alright!

Marn - the pink pistils wither to an unremarkable brown, but the smell really is very cherry/acidic. i imagine the buds wont be super dense as they have more of a thai-like structure (but chunkier)

dao - yeah, its been my privilege to grow these genetics - the sours are both quality plants for sure, and the Cherry bomb is definitely special too.

hazydreams - yeah the reveg cut i took of the CB2 looks to be reverting back to veg growth ok. i noticed a couple of late male flowers on the CB1, the other pheno, today - but its late in flower so im not too worried. picked them off and gave it a good look over.

Mr.Farmer - thanks, ive made some more Cherry Bomb seeds by dusting pollen from the two males i got onto a bud on these two girls. ive also used CB pollen to make seeds with the diesels and the chem d i have in my other cab. those are just to try and back up the genetics of the elites though. the cross i'm really excited about is the Cherryjuana - Herijuana x Cherry Bomb. i think that could be a winner and it looks like i made a decent amount of seeds .
i would have also crossed the elites to haze and Deep Chunk - both of which i have pollen in the freezer for, but i didnt want to get any cross pollination so just used cherry bomb dust all round.

VG

 

[PotentGreen]

VG your thread is absolutely amazing. I love the way you work with a smaller space and seem to be yielding great. I need to incoporate scrog into my growing. Your technique is inspiring...
keep it up brother

 

[dc1]

Incredible results.

This is a giant thread, and my computer is old and terrible, if you could go into some detail on your potting mix and feeding regimen when you find time it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[VerdantGreen]

hey PG - thanks, yeah i would strongly advise a modular scrog as that negates some of the disadvantages of regular scrog - depending on your setup of course.

dc1 - here is my soil mix.

3 parts peat
2 parts quality topsoil ( make sure it hasnt any ferts added) if you are going to use native topsoil then consult my 'topsoil in the mix' thread
3 parts perlite
1 part mushroom compost
1 part wormcasts
dolomite lime 5g/litre

and the ferts, the guano doses are for cavemans (UK Brand which isnt that strong), i reduce the N guano a little for sensitive strains but that mix has never burned anything. obviously for seedlings i leave all the ferts out except the seaweed meal

N guano - 4g/litre veg, 2-5g/litre flower (strain dependent)
P guano - 4g/litre veg, 8g/litre flower
Rock phosphate 5g/l
rock potash 5g/l
seaweed meal 5g/l

the i just add water amended to around pH 6 with Citric acid. perhaps a bit of biobizz if they look hungry later on and maybe molasses 1teaspoon/gallon a couple times later on in flower. i am lucky in the UK to have a sustainable/ethical source of bat guano - i urge you to try and source eco friendly guano or use an alternative.

VG