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KosmoKramer

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Maybe dump the runoff thats in the bottom of the blue cups? Roots are seeking the nutes/water and following thru the whole to find it.

I havent gotten far enuff yet to worry about roots

Reread some of this thread quickly. Am I to assume that in coco its common to run into Mag deficiencies? Is this because of lockout, or just a deficiency?

My local hydro shot has 5% Mag only, no Nitrogen or anything in it. Would it be a wise decision to pick up a bottle to have on hand?

Thanks again :tiphat:
 

slowandeasy

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Did you pre charge your Coco? Are you using RO? I use RO and Magi-Cal, and pre charge my Coco with nutes. MG and Calcium def can be a problem for some.
 

The Baphomet

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This method is great ,super simple and easy Plants are loving life in the coco . These clones are growing super fast ,they have only been in coco for 10 days after they were rooted in a ez cloner and have been growing over an inch a day . I have 96 of these and every one is absolutely perfect :plant grow:
Thanks again for sharing this with the Grower community
 

ridoo

Active member
Hi all,
at this time i got some problem with my grow in my coco...
check this if you have time

Do you think it this "good" or "not bad" to switch from canna nuts to Head's Formula just some days before start flowering ?

thanks for ideas about this
rdx
 
def not too late. i might give a good flush with ph'd water then start fresh so to speak, and i noticed ur not watering daily, id recommend watering daily for optimal nutrient uptake.

peace and good luck.
T5
 

ridoo

Active member
thanks a lot,
i read about daily watering... just some days ago...

about the Formula to...

so, i'll do that, i still have hope, i love those kali mist... they will recover !
And my flowers will be funtastic !

Thanks a lot !
 

KosmoKramer

Member
As a newbie coco user I find watering daily on well established young plants makes a huge difference. I also switched from 1/2 strength to full on some young seedlings and they responded almost instantly. Dont be too timid with the nutes as long as roots are fairly established. I was afraid to burn em, but they take off early with full strength nutes so let em have it!

Also make sure your pH is around 5.5-5.8. Just received a new pH pen and retested my nutes mixes. I now mix my nutes and any H2O down to around 5.8 and the plants love it! Had been checking pH with GH drops and found I was adjusting to 6.1 before I got the pen. Noticed some spotting before the fix, now everything looks great!

Want to thank slowandeasy for the help! Thanks bro :tiphat:

NOTE: Switched over to BioBizz from BCuzz. Noticed that while rinsing pH levels in the runoff of the BioBizz was about 1 pt. lower indicating to me that BCuzz definately is a bit HOT. I wouldnt recommend this for very young seedlings or clones unless its well rinsed. A few of my clones had burned tips after they were just barely rooted in the BCuzz
 

KosmoKramer

Member
Another newbie question.

I have access to my grow area once a day (at nite) and the last day or two I've noticed that the 18oz cups my larger seedlings (3 1/2") are in are almost bone dry each nite. I would assume thats indicating the cups are getting filled up with roots, plants are feeding well drying out the coco, and its time to repot? Havent popped em out of the cups to check root development yet, but its on the weekend to-do list.

Temps are in the hi 60's, lo 70's, under T8's and there isnt much direct airflow on them. Hand watered each nite until there is some runoof from the bottom of the cups.
 
E

emerald city

:tiphat: H3ad;
Thanks for the informative read.Its taken a few sessions but i made it through the whole 92 pages....Even tho this dog is getting long in the tooth im not to old to learn a few new tricks..After reading about your success with the coco coir[im an old pro-mix user] ive become inspired to try this "new age" product along with your formula....
After fighting water quality issues all winter ive devised a plan to keep my water at a steady baseline[under 150 ppm/.23 ec] and experiment from there
By reading your therorys on the relationship between k/ca/mg the switch from promix to co-co may actualy work out better with the type of water[semi hard shallow well] that im stuck dealing with..
Many thanks for putting in the time to share what you have learned alone the path....enjoy the day...E/C out :ying:
 

cr0n

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:tiphat: H3ad;
Thanks for the informative read.Its taken a few sessions but i made it through the whole 92 pages....Even tho this dog is getting long in the tooth im not to old to learn a few new tricks..After reading about your success with the coco coir[im an old pro-mix user] ive become inspired to try this "new age" product along with your formula....
After fighting water quality issues all winter ive devised a plan to keep my water at a steady baseline[under 150 ppm/.23 ec] and experiment from there
By reading your therorys on the relationship between k/ca/mg the switch from promix to co-co may actualy work out better with the type of water[semi hard shallow well] that im stuck dealing with..
Many thanks for putting in the time to share what you have learned alone the path....enjoy the day...E/C out :ying:

Nearly the exact same thing for me. I have taken about 4-5 sessions of reading to finish this thread and it has inspired me to try coco and Head's formula. I am also an old pro mix user and my water issues are similar.

E/C make sure you keep me posted on how that zero water machine it treating you.
 

Ember1

Member
Kosmo-
Yes, it is indeed time to repot. As soon as they develop a good root structure, they will suck up a lot of water. Re potting into larger buckets will give them more moisture to pull from, and the pots won't dry out as quickly.
Go ahead and check the roots. They will most likely be holding onto the medium pretty well once out of the cups.
 

Bobby Stainless

"Ill let you try my Wu-Tang style"
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H3ad for President!

Jus saying thanks for Casey and the formula!

Here is some Chemdog loving some 6/9.
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Mountain High

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"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bobby Stainless again."
nice lookin room Bobby! Do you change any lil thing when feeding the Chems with H3AD fomula?
 

blank85

Member
ghe 3+3/10 didnt work very well for me. killed 2 plants and yield went from 600g to 400g off 4 x 400w hps. Got 600g using the normal ghe feeding schedule.

im trying ghe 6sw/9b now for the new veg plants and they are absolutely loving it. Will see how flowering goe tho..

thanks to the guy who told me to that, his avatar is a racecar.

when putting 6sw/9 into the ghe calculator its much closer to gh 6/9 than ghe 3+3/10. So dont really understand the thinking behind 3+3/10 because 6/9 with ghe has been doing much much better (for veg that is, flowering i dont know yet but racecar guy says it works great)

anyways beware 3+3/10 when using ghe, it didnt work for me, 6/9 seems better so far.

will post pics in a few weeks.

peace

still waiting for h3ads opinion, havnt seen him in the thread for ages.
 

Xerhoss

Member
So far these ratios have worked out great for me as well in 100% coco using dechlorinated tap water.

The only addition i've used this round is hygrozyme at transplants and weekly intervals until a couple weeks into flower. May consider trying Rez's Kool Bloom schedule on the next run with the same strains as this round to see how it compares also. :dance013:

In any event, just wanted to add another than you to the 90-something page list. This is truly a simple, effective program. :thank you:
 
B

Beanbag

Thank you

Thank you

Couldn't find any other way to contact Mr Grat3fulh3ad so I'll be happy to do it in the thread from which I'm taking so much.

Basically I'm a new grower who just started back in July using coco and Canna Coco line of nutes. Had one harvest in November that was good and am about a week away from a harvest of some Barney's Farm Red Dragon to which I'm looking forward.

Basically I'm a member of grass city and learned from some friends about the Lucas Formula. Using the little lucasformula.com reference page I learned there was a modified version of the formula for coco growers.

I started reading this entire thread and cutting out everything Mr h3ad would say that was growing related. Currently I'm on about page 47 but I couldn't wait any longer to say thank you.

I've already bought a 2.5 gallon jug of GH Micro and a 5 gallon jug of GH Flora and I've started to transition as I run out of Canna nutes. Based on your experience and information I feel sure of success and a much easier (and cheaper) method of feeding than I am now using.

One question would be if there is an up to date chart with your recommended mix for each stage of growth from fresh cut clones through your pure water finish? I will find it through a full thread read but if there is a summary reference to which I can link friends I would be happy to use it.

Thank you once again for all of your time and effort in passing along information of such a simple and extremely valuable quality.

- Bean
 

J23

Member
First grow: Nirvana NL, SCRoG, COCO, H3ad nutes formula, STEALTH, 150W HPS

First grow: Nirvana NL, SCRoG, COCO, H3ad nutes formula, STEALTH, 150W HPS

Hello everyone. First time grower, coco + 6/9 formula. My plant is 2 months old now. A week ago I moved it from under CFL (2x23W) to 150W HPS. My tap water is about 190ppm and ca. 700 after adding nutes. I'm adjusting it with ph down to 5.6. I'm watering twice a day with runoff. Runoff = 940ppm. 20/4 photoperiod. Temps at 82-83.

Here she is:



I haven't trim it so far. As you can see its very bushy but only 14" tall. Can you chime in with your thoughts on my progress? Anything I should change in my routine? Thanks for advise!
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