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FreezerBoy

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Water curing has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of. Carry on.:gday:

My sympathies for your loss of hearing.

Other than bilking buyers blind, there's no rational reason for a jar cure :dance013:
 

TruthOrLie

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I can't agree there is no rational reason for a jar cure.

Sometimes you want some tasty stanky danky to stink it up.

I can't agree that water cure is dumb.

Sometimes you want to be low key, take a toke of some potent and put it out.
 

spurr

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Greetings guys. I am going to assume that the people coming into this thread know what water curing is. If not go read (just did a quick search pretty sure this will cover the basics though:https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=437&highlight=water+cure)

The basic idea is that by water curing you are getting everything that is water soluble out of the buds while all the cannabinoids stay. This means that the terpenes/chlorophyll/starches etc etc will all be gone and result in a bud that looks crappy (brown) but is silky smooth and more potent by volume.

Interesting thread, I have never really looked into water curing before.

FWIW, water curing should not remove most terpenoids/terpenes and flavonoid aglycones because they are non-polar and most non-polar molecules are water insoluble (hydrophobic). I know some people claim water curing removes smell, and if that's true something might be happening to the terpenoids/terpenes other than being extracted.

See this post of mine for the science of water insoluble flavonoid aglycones; as well as flavonoid aglycones and terpenoids/terpenes that have been found in cannabis: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=4279552&postcount=11
 

spurr

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So my questions are:
Could one pull up a plant, de-soil the root-zone gently and then dunk them into R/O water. My thoughts are that the mobile water-soluble chemicals would diffuse through the roots into the water and since it's harvest time already you wouldn't need to worry about the health of the plant too much - just within reason. You could also try immersing big fan leaves (whole plant in tact) in water too. Are terpenes mobile? What are you guys' thoughts on this?

I very highly doubt that would happen...but it's always good to question the status quo (yes, pun intended) :tiphat:
 

spurr

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statusquo said:
The bud doesn't smell at all since the terpenes are gone and doesn't smell when you smoke it either.

Let's be careful here. Water cured weed DOES smell. It just doesn't smell like what most associate as MJ. We don't want folks rolling a fattie and blowing it in the face of the local sheriff, constable or gendarme thinking their impervious to arrest.

I am glad you posted that, because I really couldn't believe that watering curing removes all smell. Most (all?) tepenoids/terpenes are non-polar and thus water insoluble. However, I have read other people claiming water cured bud doesn't smell, now I assume they meant "doens't smell the same". Because terpenoids/terpenes should not be removed with a water cure something else must be going on with them under water, if water cured bud losses that dank bud smell from terpenoids/terpenes.
 

FreezerBoy

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The smell is most commonly referred to as burning hair or burning rope. It may not smell like MJ but, it most certainly has a smell.
 

bigwity

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sounds delightful freezer boy i just cant wait to put all my lushiuos smelling bud into water
and try it for myself. i suppose it has its place.
 

TruthOrLie

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Forget dry cure.

Forget water cure.

Try the MILK cure.

Whole plant, chopped at base. Dunked in gallon of milk. Boiled for 1.5 hrs. Strain and separate plant material.

Chill. Serve. Enjoy.
 

statusquo

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I just wanted to correct something I wrote: I was unaware earlier today that some terpenes are slightly soluble water...

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3160273&postcount=6

I thought this was self-evident since water-cured bud doesn't smell haha.
@FG: I have never water-cured this just seemed to be the consensus from people who had done it. If this is not the case i apologize and it seems it wouldn't be self-evident! (Spurr)

Also, it was explicitly written in my OP but I was kind of hoping the terpenes would not be mobile and only salts/starches/chlorophyll would be. This would result in water-cured buds that retained their original smell (or close to it) while still being as smooth as possible.

Edit: wow I just realized this is my thread...thought that title was too intriguing! lol. Forgot about it a while ago - it looked dead. In class now but I'll have to read through it later. Thanks for the replies!

@truth: milk has fat. Cannabinoids are fat soluble so this would be counter-productive. Additionally, heating up the milk would increase the solubility and result in even more 'goodies' leaving the bud and dissolving into solute (correct wording?)
 

qbert

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The smell is most commonly referred to as burning hair or burning rope. It may not smell like MJ but, it most certainly has a smell.

Yes, and tastes like it to, imho. That's why I didn't care for it. Plus, I found that it continued to get smoother for another week after drying, like it still needed some air curing, fwiw.
 

statusquo

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Gee,I can make shitty,flavorless weed out of my world class herb
just by soaking it in water??
!Wow!
!!Neat-O!!
(I always microwaved it to ruin it before,but this seems even easier!)
I always wondered how the Mexicans ruin their bulk weed-Now I know.
This thread should be called "How to Ruin Pot,Toss It In Water".
""Curing" pot in water is called "making bubble hash",anything else is a fucking travesty.



~RD~
You and all the other people like you in this thread need to learn to fucking read christ....I was asking HOW CAN I PRESERVE THE TERPENES WITH A WATER CURE. Additionally, I never said I water cure either. I haven't. Half the posts in here are merely to come in and degrade...how about you all GTFO. I'm fine if you hate water-curing but unless you have something to contribute that's relevant to the issues in the OP, than shut, the fuck, up.

I agree. From harvest to a good smoke in a few days...

A bowl of water cured bud will allways get you more baked than regular bud...

How can anyone say anything bad about a water cure?
Thank you.

And thank you to spurr & FG as well. Only about 10% of these posts max have even anything to contribute....
 

TruthOrLie

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CHillax Dude.

Try water curing first. (its not gonna be the end of the world if you try an 1/8 and don't like it)

Then you'll see what you're asking is kinda... well, I dunno. It's like asking how to cook a hot dog in the refrigerator.
 

statusquo

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I am perfectly relaxed. I was asking a hypothetical....ontop of that, the majority of responses are merely saying how dumb watercuring is without any substance and only about 2 or 3 posts even address the main issue at hand:
watercuring to PRESERVE THE SMELL, TASTE and TERPENES.
Additionally, your analogy is completely flawed but I understand your sentiment. It is duly noted and chalked up with the rest of the aforementioned posters/content lol.

P.S. The reason I haven't done watercuring (yet) is for the exact reasons all of you guys complain about...I like the smell and I don't mind the wait. I am in agreement with your sentiments just not how you people address them. That is why I specifically asked about how watercuring to preserve the smell......
 

statusquo

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^^ Above Diagnosis: Hypertension from smoking "water-cured" schwag. :D ^^

For sure...you really do need to improve your reading comprehension skills...quite impressive!

A real shame too...I had just started to set aside my dislike of you since your actions spoke louder than your words...I was hoping we could just kind of stay away from each other; i.e. keep the actual thievery and verbal arrogance in the rez forums...it's clear we have a difference of opinion(s)....How about you keep out of my threads and I'll keep out of yours, problem solved.
 

thaiboxer

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day 3 of my first water cure. Anyone here with any actually experience?? The buds look exactly the way they did when i cut them, when do they lose color? Is there a way to tell when its done?? I'm changing water regularly & planning to be done on day 7.

Alternative ways of drying? I'm thinking in the oven at 150 before decarbing.

I am making a tincture so taste smoothness ect is not required. a stealthy dry/decarb are my primary goals. less chlorophyll in the GD would be nice also.
 
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