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Any suggestions on dealing effectively with thugs and vandals would be appreciated. We've had a dysfunctional family on the block for many years, and it's gotten to the point that we're fed up with their Bullshit. Since the great-grandma died a few months ago, it's gotten even worse, and as soon as warm weather hits, things will probably escalate.

Mental illness, hard drug abuse/dealing, vandalism, and threats of violence have us on edge. We've done all the "right" things, calling the cops, filing for a restraining order, etc. etc., but the bottom line is that when push comes to shove, we're probably going to be on our own.

It's not as if the cops don't know ... heck, one of the neighbors is a cop and though he had the place watched, there wasn't enough "traffic" that week to justify a warrant.

The two 25 - 30 years olds have both been locked-up previously, their "uncle nut-bar" was caught at a nearby supermarket trolling for action in the mens-room, and his "down-low" lover is a large black thug on parole. A few days before the Super Bowl, somebody OD'd and died there, which didn't stop them from having a party on Sunday night. How festive.

There were enough police calls to their house that it was put on a "problem property" list, but that only lasted a year. ( "Uncle nut-bar" pulled a knife on his nephews who were trying to get upstairs to swipe grandma's disability/Social Security check. )

There was a time when we would have taken direct action, but given our advanced age, the mind is probably stronger than the body. Emptying a clip into them would fix things in the short term, but we'd rather not face the consequences of such rash action. So, we need an effective, yet subtle, strategy, something short of tossing a fire-bomb through their window. Any ideas short of calling the Feds?
 
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guest456mpy

I would be very tempted to use this as an opportunity to get out of Dodge and dusting my hands off the entire problem. Screw that kind of grief, life is too short to to waste it.
 

BongRipkenJR.

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My grandparents had this same problem. They were on edge with every right to be. One day they went to breakfast and 6 of there plants had been ripped. A number of houses were also robbed. Word travels fast on that hill and the locals had enough of the tweakers having everyone on edge so, long story short they fired a shit load of shots up and down their house and at their cars. They didnt take aim at anybody, but rather personal possessions. Needless to say they got the fuck out of town and nobody saw them on the hill again. However somebody did purposely run one of the dudes over in a near by town I heard. Something bad happened to another one as well. Mountain justice is fucking crazy!
 
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BongRipkenJr

Yep, it a whole different thing if you're in the hills and not in a town or urban setting.

It's what my grandpa would have done on the farm. I hear ya loud and clear.
 

David762

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Unfortunately, having good or bad neighbors is a crap-shoot, sort of like family. You can choose your friends -- you are stuck with family (unless you disown them). :)

You can spend good money on burglar bars, perimeter lighting, and a home sentry alarm system (ADT?). But bad neighbors is a "quality of life" issue, and the items I listed detract from that "quality of life", imvho. Don't even think of taking the law into your own hands, such as fire-bombing their home into a smoldering pile -- your previous official complaints would put you near the top of the LEO's list of suspects, and the bad karma is not worth it. :ying:

Calling the police (Law Enforcement Officers) and getting one or two of your bad neighbors busted will not get all of them vacated from your neighborhood, and may quite well make things even worse between you. Thuggish people have a tendency to take the law and vengeance into their own hands, with unpredictable results.

I know that for many people, moving from a family home may be financially undoable these days, but if you can afford to do so, I would recommend that you move rather than continue to have to deal with such neighbors. We are supposed to be able to enjoy the fruits of our labor as we grow older, and life is too short to suffer unnecessary drama with thugs for neighbors.

Best of luck with this problem. You do have solutions. Pick the best one for your circumstances. :tiphat:
 
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rick shaw

Keep a detailed log of all incidents. Photocopy and sent to the local news media,your city supervisor,contact your local senior self help group,they will have an attorney.
Phone calls are easy to blow off,a well written letter with complete incident and police reports will get something done.
 

GOT DANK

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Keep a detailed log of all incidents. Photocopy and sent to the local news media,your city supervisor,contact your local senior self help group,they will have an attorney.
Phone calls are easy to blow off,a well written letter with complete incident and police reports will get something done.

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HighDesertJoe

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Keep a detailed log of all incidents. Photocopy and sent to the local news media,your city supervisor,contact your local senior self help group,they will have an attorney.
Phone calls are easy to blow off,a well written letter with complete incident and police reports will get something done.

Rick's right on the money. Also if you can afford it motion activated cameras on your property that would be a good idea. If they come in your house and threatened you SHOOT them dead if your threatened on your property outside the house Shoot them dead then throw them though the front window, you don't want the take chances with the safety and well being of your family. We had some problems years ago and the police came out and gave me that very advice and said they'd back us all the way.
Good Luck
 
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HenriettaHippo

I have a friend here in Maine who helped me out. He loaned me an IP camera to watch what was happening and to take some video of potential perpetrators in action. It turned out I was NOT a specific target, one neighborhood kid was hitting everyone to support a habit.

The alternative (something that is also done up here) is to learn the laws, get an inexpensive 12 gauge, these shells http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/shotshells/home-defense/home-defense-loads.aspx and be prepared. Especially learn the laws regarding defending ones homestead from intruders or if such laws exist where you are. It is an extreme measure but maybe worth it in the long run.
 

Stoner4Life

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I know that for many people, moving from a family home may be financially undoable these days, but if you can afford to do so, I would recommend that you move rather than continue to have to deal with such neighbors. We are supposed to be able to enjoy the fruits of our labor as we grow older, and life is too short to suffer unnecessary drama with thugs for neighbors.
and that's exactly how to develop a bad neighborhood, move out & leave it to the bad guys.......

THIS IS WHERE YOU STAND YOUR GROUND INSTEAD.

 

yortbogey

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simple.......find a BIGGER-BAD-ASS........and pay to have them feel the real pain.........making there life a living HELL.........they will go away.....
ACTION......speaks.......LOUDER.......than wordz.......
and crazy people only respond too KRAZY..........

so just go find A bigger NUT......and turn'EM........looose........:scripture:
 

PistilPete

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I have nothing to add but my condolences. It must be horrible to not feel safe in your own home.

edit: Maybe you could try to get some other decent neighbors together and go to a city council meeting and bring it up in front of some elected officials.
 
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guest456mpy

I would be willing to bet that all those who advised violence, etc are not seniors. Time to leave all the heavy lifting for those who are younger. I wouldn't move if I was younger, but at my age I no longer care to fight idiots, criminals and others who simply don't care. I know for certain I have done more than my part in the past.

No shame at all moving at this point, screw them and leave them behind.
 

Bobby Stainless

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or these.

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darkhorse

^^^^^
or you can get a mini me dog like mine,



yeah its no joke the hastle you get from the kids, i ended up doing a
lot of time for beating one boys dad after a lot of hasstle.
 
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