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Lets talk about jailtime and risks associated with growing..
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OrganicOzarks
No scripts where I am at, and most people are so old that they don't know to stay under 100 plants. It is actually quite amazing. They could care less. Old hippies are a trip.
I hear that Feds will count rootballs as plants--if needed. So I don't think it really matters to the Feds if the plant is in veg, flower, hanging upside down drying, or whether it was a giant sequoia or 3 gram straggler. To them a plant is a plant and if the want to stack the numbers--then that plant you just harvested might count as 2 when they find it's rootball.
ANYTHING OVER 6 MATURE plants can cause you a major headache. Stay under the radar. don't have traffic at your place everyday in fact don't have anyone come over all all. Do the deal else where. Just to live a quite life is no picnic leo is always looking to put you away. Your neighbors are not your friend. If they get in trouble you will be the first they roll over on. Don't leave cannabis out for anyone to see this includes pipes,papers,Bubblers. Keep your house smelling good not like dank. I love dank as much as the next person but I don't want my place reaking all the time. A little common sense can go a long way. Be safe,careful and keep your mouth shut.
David762
Member
OR, an alternative view ...
OR, an alternative view ...
OR, an alternative view ... paying all taxes at the local and State level is good for the community -- taxes buys civilization. OTOH, paying Federal taxes buys many, many things that many people do not like: our bloated Military Industrial Complex, our foreign military adventures that prop up our mercantile colonial empire, the War on Drugs and War on Terror, the DEA, corporate welfare instead of the welfare of the working class, tax breaks for the wealthy paid for by the working class, etcetera. Two well-known American authors risked and went to jail for their failure to support through taxes what they considered an illegal and immoral war against Mexico -- Henry David Thoreau and Walt Whitman.
OR, an alternative view ...
OR, an alternative view ... paying all taxes at the local and State level is good for the community -- taxes buys civilization. OTOH, paying Federal taxes buys many, many things that many people do not like: our bloated Military Industrial Complex, our foreign military adventures that prop up our mercantile colonial empire, the War on Drugs and War on Terror, the DEA, corporate welfare instead of the welfare of the working class, tax breaks for the wealthy paid for by the working class, etcetera. Two well-known American authors risked and went to jail for their failure to support through taxes what they considered an illegal and immoral war against Mexico -- Henry David Thoreau and Walt Whitman.
My bad I worded it wrong, and obviously all I'm trying to do here is educate, shit is scary and obv we want to have whatever defense we can.
What I meant was in terms of a no question, you are going to get off type scenario. Like if you were living with your parents and wanted to know how much you could grow with the knowledge that even if cops came in, nothing would happen. That number technically is 6 or 12 depending on the stage.
Now in terms of you, me and everyone else that has way more then that, the best idea is to make it as legit as possible, fill out the forms, get the lawyers, have the recs, do it all the right way. Sadly cuz its still a grey area, once ur up in that category there is no guarantee that shit is gonna go your way even if you have all your ducks in a row.
So in the 'doing all you can to minimize' mode, what you said is perfect, though I would still say having scripts on site is really important.
this is why i am converting to doing larger plants, christmas tree style. i have multiple friends in the bay area busted for weed none of them ever do jail. keep at least 10k stashed away seperate for bail and lawyer, be prepared to do a ton of community service and be on probation. get a good lawyer and make your case. im trying to plant the seeds now in case i ever end up in court, im making donations to certain foundations and trying to look as goody two shoes as possible.
and yes add more scripts timmy. add as many as possible, what me and my friends do is photocopy our scripts and share them in homies gardens. there are certain people who have their scripts in a ton of gardens lol...theres no database for checking that shit. thats why clubs make everyone sign up and photocopy their original script, so they can add it to their collection of patients if the bitchass cops ever show up..
and yes add more scripts timmy. add as many as possible, what me and my friends do is photocopy our scripts and share them in homies gardens. there are certain people who have their scripts in a ton of gardens lol...theres no database for checking that shit. thats why clubs make everyone sign up and photocopy their original script, so they can add it to their collection of patients if the bitchass cops ever show up..
well I hope everyone stays safe follow the rules for now or not it's your life and you will pay the consequences if busted. I always get nervious when Im over my #'s even if by a small amount.
Ajunta Pall
Member
Way to go Things you pay fucking taxes to the same people who will try to lock your ass away for a long time. You support the war machine that strips its own citizens of our rights and tries to grind us under heel. Good for you and your adult world. I'd rather live in Charlie Sheen's world and fuck the shit outta my own goddesses. If thats immature and selfish, by golly, sign me up!
As for contributing, Robin Hood contributed a lot to his community, still was an outlaw at the end of the day though.
What is the OP gonna bang his underaged bud? I know a few felons and let me tell ya we dont register with no fucking body. Aint like the pigs are looking for unregistered weed offenders anyway.
ajc0k
Active member
Yea, i've been trippin lately because my filters on my first big grow didn't filter all the odor. I've got around 45 plants in a 4k stadium. my county is 6 per patient. not to mention i live with my sister, i know, i know.. very fucked up of me to put her at risk of anything, i've had some scenarios play in my head i can't see her being hauled off to jail in cuffs or even dealing with the bull shit courts.. so i'm cuttin back to 24 plants in the next few days as i've got 4 scripts.. 5-8 gallon pots of coco. i figure the extra wait and bigger electricity bill is worth it, as i get paranoid as fuck during flower when it starts to reek... not to mention helicopters fly over my house every night and my garage is barely insulated. i have to run the lights at night too this round, temp drop is too big can't back out now either as i've invested too much.. If the cops ever busted down my door and i was within the plant limits 4 original scripts on the wall, 24 plants, nothing more..they would take me to county really??
grow fewer bigger plants & stay within limits ....
As for going to jail , what do you think by comparison this Top Chief Commander of one of northern California's Drug Task forces should get, since busted himself on 28 felony counts for stealing & selling Meth, Pot, Steroids, Xanax stolen from his own evidence property ?
3 weeks ago , pretty big news in Cali:
Top Contra Costa Police Task Force Commander Arrested On Drug Dealing Charges ...
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4268131#post4268131
A couple points I would like to make....
6 flowering OR 12 veg was added to the equation via sb420 but was then ruled unconstitutional by the Cali Supreme court. So "technically" there are NO plant limits in Cali for qualified Medical Marijuana growers. Not 99....no limit.
That said.....most LEO don't even know this....currently. In my County, a Sheriff will tell you 6 or 12. You have 50 plants...your taking a ride. They just let the courts sort it all out. This is the Sheriff...not local PD. Remember, in their eyes we are second class citizens....or just criminals to these cops.
The FEDS can and do charge people under 99. This whole 99 thing is a 'threshold'. It is not a 'set' number and should not be construed as such.
The bottom line is if you grow cannabis...your taking a chance. In Cali there are places where the cops will leave you alone and there are places that will try and pin any charge they can on you. If your legal, grow like you are not! Also, your grow room should be organized, meaning having the proper paperwork ready.
That said...I still have my doc add the "allowed to grow as much as needed" clause whenever I renew. It's also nice to know that your Doc will testify for you, if needed.
6 flowering OR 12 veg was added to the equation via sb420 but was then ruled unconstitutional by the Cali Supreme court. So "technically" there are NO plant limits in Cali for qualified Medical Marijuana growers. Not 99....no limit.
That said.....most LEO don't even know this....currently. In my County, a Sheriff will tell you 6 or 12. You have 50 plants...your taking a ride. They just let the courts sort it all out. This is the Sheriff...not local PD. Remember, in their eyes we are second class citizens....or just criminals to these cops.
The FEDS can and do charge people under 99. This whole 99 thing is a 'threshold'. It is not a 'set' number and should not be construed as such.
The bottom line is if you grow cannabis...your taking a chance. In Cali there are places where the cops will leave you alone and there are places that will try and pin any charge they can on you. If your legal, grow like you are not! Also, your grow room should be organized, meaning having the proper paperwork ready.
That said...I still have my doc add the "allowed to grow as much as needed" clause whenever I renew. It's also nice to know that your Doc will testify for you, if needed.
i got busted with 600 something plants this last bust. they treated it just like when i got busted with 1000's of plants, years before.
THEY DONT CARE about plant numbers. they care about cash and possessions.
the worst trouble i got in was when i got busted with 36 plants!!!!! 4 felony's!!!!!
so, take that all with a grain of salt. no one can really know what kind of trouble they will get in with numbers, until you get into trouble.....
THEY DONT CARE about plant numbers. they care about cash and possessions.
the worst trouble i got in was when i got busted with 36 plants!!!!! 4 felony's!!!!!
so, take that all with a grain of salt. no one can really know what kind of trouble they will get in with numbers, until you get into trouble.....
SMOKE-ONE
Member
whats up with the 6/12 rule? Does it mean you can have 6 mature plants and 12 immature plants? because ive seen people say you can have 6 mature or 12 immature but not both?I know that the limits are supposed to be invalid but i was just wondering what exactly the limit actually means
you answered your own question with your last sentence.....
the 6/12 is invalid, gone, history, no mas...
thatgreenstuff
Member
If you dont mind Krunch, what was the 4 felony's for? I imagine Bho tubes was 1 and growing 2, but cant think of the other two.
cultivation, 1/4 of mushrooms, setting a fire to a habital area(grow started fire) and the scale i had, i got a felony for some reason.....
this was with a public pretender, learned my lesson on that one!
