Hovz is back at it again, 1200w this time.

[Leroy Brown]

I'm watching, looks great man!


2-things I see with your cloning problems in jiffy's. 1- you don't want the leaves wet, just high humidity. 2- those heat mats suck, do you have a thermometer in there? (I like the $8 accurite's with the external probe, that way you can read top & bottom temps.) It's probably steaming vegetables in there. The reason those heat mats suck is they usually raise temps way to much. You need one of them hydrofarm temp controllers, OR to avoid the hydro store you can get a Zilla temp controller for reptile heat mats from the petstore, but they don't all carry them so make sure you call around 1st. Also they are more expensive than the hydrofarm ones actually.

 

[Hovz]

I'm watching, looks great man!


2-things I see with your cloning problems in jiffy's. 1- you don't want the leaves wet, just high humidity. 2- those heat mats suck, do you have a thermometer in there? (I like the $8 accurite's with the external probe, that way you can read top & bottom temps.) It's probably steaming vegetables in there. The reason those heat mats suck is they usually raise temps way to much. You need one of them hydrofarm temp controllers, OR to avoid the hydro store you can get a Zilla temp controller for reptile heat mats from the petstore, but they don't all carry them so make sure you call around 1st. Also they are more expensive than the hydrofarm ones actually.

Hey Leroy, I don't have a thermometer in the jiffy tray but i use the heating mat because the room that they're in gets kind of cold so without it i don't think they would even think about rooting. I've never cloned this way before but since i picked up the tray dome and pellets all for like 6 bucks i figured it couldn't hurt. I'm kind of counting on my bubble cloner to show me some roots i guess the jiffys are just kinda an experiment, i've had good results with just cuts stuck into soil sittin on top of a heating mat with a plastic bag over the top of the pot for the first week. Maybe ill look for the hydrofarm temp controller. I have a day/night thermostat for like ventilation and stuff maybe that would work?

 

[Hovz]

Heres a shot of one of the plants that are a couple weeks behind the rest. I took this photo yesterday.

I think this one still has a couple weeks left.

Heres a shot of some white widow my buddy grew.

He gets rid of it for 200 a zip he's also has his medical card. I can get clones from him so i might get that and see what other strains he has available. He said he would gift me free cuts, i just gota makesure he doesnt have insects.

Ill take some more plants out for pics tommorow. I Got a new job that might require me to be gone for upto 3-4 days so i might have to figure out how to keep my plants watered. Might be forced to switch to bubble buckets or a aero system or something.

 

[Hovz]

So i've been kinda busy this week but I thought i would do a quick update and show you how the plants were lookin tonight.

Thats all of the plants in the bloom room. The ones in the back are a week or so older. I'm still seeing a lot of white hairs on top im wondering if i should give them another dose of fertilizer or just keep flushing. Hopefully they start to turn brown soon i was hoping for some couch lock bud. I finally got some clones to take root so those will be transplanted and put in the veg tent when i get a chance. The jiffy pellets finally worked for me with the heat mat.

Thats all for now, later

 

[Hovz]

Okay so tell me what you guys think, Did i give my plants enough soil to finish out in? i'm thinking this might have affected my yield. Also this strain usually only takes 60 days to finish and its already 65. Anyways if anyone has any suggestions on how i could increase my yield lemme know. I would like to learn to get a dried lb from a 600 but i know that will take some practice. Heres the plants as of a couple minutes ago.

Notice all the dying leaves? Is this normal for this time of flowering? I guess the buds just are not finishing out like i would have hoped for. Im hoping to get at least a half lb. I've invested so much as this point and hardly got any return. I might be forced to switch to hydro and use the lucas formula or soilless grow with hydro nutes just because of the simplicity and potential to yeild is so great. I would love to stick with organics but i just cant get the nugs im looking for. Maybe its genetics i've been using the same strain for two years now maybe its time to get some B.O.G seeds or Spice of Life. Does anyone else have any seed companys to suggest?

I got seven clones to finally root. I put them in some FF Happy frog.

Any and all suggestions to increase yield for me would be greatly appreciated. Later,

Hovz

 

[Hovz]

So i went and took a couple pictures before the light went off. I think some of them are almost ready for the chop. I'm ready to get some more plants flowering, maybe ill flower one of my mother plants and tie it down or do a scrog.

Heres a group shot, you can notice the dying leaves. I should have lollipopped them more than i did. Hopefully i can pull a decent yield.

I took a pic of one of the top colas.

So how do the plants look? im dying to hear some feedback. I hope i can start harvesting more often. Hope i can show you guys some harvest pics soon and some hash aswell. So tell me what you think, i'll keep updating as things come along.

 

[Fire On High]

Hey man. That all looks real good. I'm kind of surprised people aren't commenting. I wouldn't worry about them too much, they seem like they did real well.

I'm not experienced enough to tell you what to do to increase yeild.

 

[hobb3s93]

im not super experienced either but they look delicious my plants have fairly similair brown spots appearing on the leaves, i noticed it on a couple of your plants, do you happen to know what thats from?

 

[Fire On High]

Hobbes. pretty sure thats a deficiency, maybe potassium? Dying leaves on a mature plant is a good thing though. It means its dedicating its remaining energy to the buds.

 

[hobb3s93]

hmm yeah it is good on a budding plant but mine are still in veg ive upped the potassium im giving them as well as some calmag hopefully theyll come out of it

 

[Hovz]

im not super experienced either but they look delicious my plants have fairly similair brown spots appearing on the leaves, i noticed it on a couple of your plants, do you happen to know what thats from?

Ya i also believe its some sort of a deficiency that I've been battling i think it may have been because i overfed them or maybe nutrient lockout from the ph being out of range, even though I've heard ph isn't a factor if you have a good soil mix and humic acids. Anyways thanks for the kind words everyone its nice to hear some feedback. I chopped two plants last night and hung them up to dry. It looks like about a ounce per plant for a rough guesstimate on weight. I defiantly should have lollipopped them to reduce to amount of popcorn buds i got. I'm hoping to get a lb of dried bud when its all said and done. Next round will be better i might do a bunch of smaller single cola plants to try to increase the yield. Alright well ill snap some pics of the drying buds when i get a chance and also of the remaining ones in the bloom room. I might go pick up some smart pots today and switch to them next round. I'm determined to learn to get a lb off a 600w its just trial and error until that point. Later and stay safe

 

[hobb3s93]

well what kind of soil are you using? ive never had this problem when using ff ocean forest, after consulting a couple books i think this may be a phosphorous def. and i dont think it would be pH because ive been keeping mine at a steady 6.3 Im pretty sure its the roots organic soil im using but im not entirely sure...anyways youve got a great grow goin, the buds look great! once i figure the problem out ill be sure to let you know

 

[Hovz]

well what kind of soil are you using? ive never had this problem when using ff ocean forest, after consulting a couple books i think this may be a phosphorous def. and i dont think it would be pH because ive been keeping mine at a steady 6.3 Im pretty sure its the roots organic soil im using but im not entirely sure...anyways youve got a great grow goin, the buds look great! once i figure the problem out ill be sure to let you know

Last round i used two bags of Fox Farms Happy Frog mixed with one bag Ocean Forest. I now plan to use two bags of Happy Frog mixed with a bucket of perlite. Thanks for trying to help me figure out what the deal was. I think i just need to give them more attention, I've been busy lately and haven't had the time to look at them everyday, some days they will go 2-3 days without water. I'm just flushing them with water and molasses now. I'm starting to get paranoid because its stinking pretty horrible but I'm going to make sure the hairs turn brown before i harvest. I made a aerocloner today for $35.00 in a 3 gallon bucket with 12 clone sites on top. I have pics ill put up later. Also i picked up 50 2 gallon grow bags, and some nice hydro farm trimming scissors. I'm going for single cola plants next time to try to increase the yield. I'm also going to be implementing some compost teas. Thanks again for your help man i appreciate it.

 

[Hovz]

after consulting a couple books i think this may be a phosphorous def:

I don't believe it to be a phosphorus def because i hit them pretty hard with high phosphorus Jamaican bat guano and superbat budswel. One of those things could have threw off my ph in the soil and caused a nutrient lockout. Also because i used the humboldt nutrients gravity, snowstorm ultra, and bushmaster could have threw off the ph of my water as well causing a phosphorus lockout. I don't do any adjusting of my ph because i've heard its not important in organics. Anyways maybe ill just keep it simple the with Jamaican bat guano next time.

 

[Hovz]

Bump..

Thought i would throw up a couple pictures to show u guys what i've been upto. I built this DIY aero cloner for $35.00. Very easy to construct.

And here it is with the neoprene fittings and the lid.

I believe i've chopped a total of four plants so far out of 14 so theres still ten left.

Heres a shot of the buds hanging to dry.

I'm feeling kinda sick so thats all for now. Ill be back later, peace

 

[Tarus Bulbar]

Sick from drinkn almost half that Crown Royal!?
LOL!
Great lookn buds bro!!
FROSTY

 

[Hovz]

Sick from drinkn almost half that Crown Royal!?
LOL!
Great lookn buds bro!!
FROSTY

Haha no i've had that bottle for a long time just using the fifth as size reference. Thanks for the kind words, i still got lots more to trim.

 

[hobb3s93]

well, so far in my experience pH accounts for quite a bit.ive been just giving em water pHd to 6.3 . i just tested my runoff and its at 6.0 which is waaay too acidic according to this chart about nutrient intake (kindly posted by one of our icmag brethren). ive readjusted by adding lime to straight ff ocean forest soil, and adjusting the pH of the water im giving them to 6.8 . and so far they look fantastic, much better fer sure. i hope this helps

 

[Hovz]

well, so far in my experience pH accounts for quite a bit.ive been just giving em water pHd to 6.3 . i just tested my runoff and its at 6.0 which is waaay too acidic according to this chart about nutrient intake (kindly posted by one of our icmag brethren). ive readjusted by adding lime to straight ff ocean forest soil, and adjusting the pH of the water im giving them to 6.8 . and so far they look fantastic, much better fer sure. i hope this helps

Yea i'm gonna have to pickup a ph pen for next run, I was always assumed that the fox farms soil was already ph buffered because it had lime in it but maybe a bit more wouldn't hurt. I didn't notice any deficiencies until i added the Humboldt county nutrients snow storm ultra and gravity. Anyways ill get more pics up soon, peace and safe growing.

 

[bsound]

Yea i'm gonna have to pickup a ph pen for next run, I was always assumed that the fox farms soil was already ph buffered because it had lime in it but maybe a bit more wouldn't hurt. I didn't notice any deficiencies until i added the Humboldt county nutrients snow storm ultra and gravity. Anyways ill get more pics up soon, peace and safe growing.

Yes get yourself a PH pen, Hovz. It will solve most of your problems I can assure you. The FFOF experience I've had has not always been the best believe it or not. MG is far cheaper, I have a thread about it. The bud drying looks great! That aerocloner looks pretty pimp too.

Also a tip with cloning in the jiffy pucks; if you can put your cloning tray on some kind of shelf (preferably metal) you can use an incandescent light bulb lamp underneath to heat it. I've cloned in the dead of winter in a garage with this method. And also, every day be sure to pull the lid off and let them get some air for at least a few minutes. As you get closer and closer to the 2 week mark start keeping the lid off longer until you don't need it, then you should start seeing roots. You want them to be humid but don't overdo it. The roots and the leaves just need to be moist, not dripping wet, otherwise they won't grow and they'll rot. Get 'em some air!

I do see some defs going on there but once you get your PH pen and nutes dialed down with your runoff you will be pulling a lot more out of what you have going. Your room design looks solid. Check The Attitude seed bank for better genetics. My advice is don't do the white widow. A class strain indeed but there is far tastier stuff available at this point. I'm looking at the new Tangerine Dream or the True Blueberry from DJ short.

Keep on, brother.