I've had conflicting reports(through word of mouth), that feminized seeds are less potent than regular seeds. I've searched most of the forums here and can't seem to find a clear thread dealing with this issue. I've also heard they're harder to clone, true as well? I like the idea of feminized because my medical permit only allows me so many plants and I don't want to waste time growing any males. I know I can just keep mothers from regular seeds and clone, but I want to try a bunch of different strains before I decide which strains to keep as mothers. For example, I want to try SensiStar(Paradise Seeds), Hashplant(from sensiseeds), AK47(Serious seeds), Chronic(serious), Bubblegum(serious), Kali Mist(serious), Black Domina(Sensi Seeds), Alaskan Ice(Greenhouse Seeds) and Jack Herer(Greenhouse Seeds). There may me even more I want to try, but I figure those are enough to keep me growing this year. To try so many strains and only being allowed a limited number of plants, I figured feminized is the way to go. Any input/advice based on your past experience would be appreciated. Thanks.
Are feminized seed less potent, and if so, why?
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I have grown just 2 varieties from feminised seeds, but I could say they were not less potent than I expected, and they were good compared to plants from normal seeds too.
as about the fact that they are hard to clone.. both my fem seeds varieties that i have grown confirmed it. but I'd like others to say about they're experience with cloning feminised seeds plants, also.
as about the fact that they are hard to clone.. both my fem seeds varieties that i have grown confirmed it. but I'd like others to say about they're experience with cloning feminised seeds plants, also.
Krusher
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Suppose yes...I dont find the reason that people should always see bad things in everything different...In my opinion feminised seeds are the damn same thing...They are seeds that will grow into a plant...But to answer the question,in my experience none of the feminised seeds i grew were nothing different than regular seeds in anything (Potency-growth-cloning-vigor etc..) Peace!
Sandnut
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Suppose yes...I dont find the reason that people should always see bad things in everything different...In my opinion feminised seeds are the damn same thing...They are seeds that will grow into a plant...But to answer the question,in my experience none of the feminised seeds i grew were nothing different than regular seeds in anything (Potency-growth-cloning-vigor etc..) Peace!
yup... question was if feminized sees were less potent, answer is no
Krusher
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redneck shogun
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How close does an S1 resemble it's mother?
Depends on the mother.
redneck shogun
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Is this due to inbreeding?
redneck shogun
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@skinzilla: Since you were going to spend money on seeds anyway and since you are legal what if you spent that money on clones (if you have access to them of course)?
same as any other seed ,for instance Paridise seeds Ice cream I found 5 diffrent phenos 1 of them is very special I would suspect that 1 resembles the mother more than the others.I personally would'nt grow out 1 female seed with the expectation of finding a keeper mother.Because of my space limitations I grow out 5 clone all of them and keep what I consider special and thats still no gurantee that it resemles the mother ,Unless you have a farly detailed desciption of said mother
Even with lots of anecdotal evidence of a certain plant being hard to clone, all of that evidence needs to be taken with a large grain of salt.
Cloning can be a very frustration endeavor, and even the slightest thing out of whack can cause things to not take well.
Putting grower err aside, the ability for a cut to root can vary from cultivar to cultivar and even from pheno to pheno. One plant may clone well, and it's sibling has trouble. Just the way things shake out in the genetic map for each individual...same as any other trait.
Then consider that a plant may not actually be ready to show root yet. In many cases a grower will have a plant that may well be two or three weeks vegged and it starts to throw braches big enough to take cuts from. The first ones a grower sees he cuts and tries to root, yet the plant may well not be mature (alternating nodes, etc...) and it may take a long time for it to take root, if at all. But, let that plant mature and then take mature cuts, and it may root in a week in a cup of water.
My own personal experience with femminized seeds is that there is absolutely no difference in them from their standard siblings, save for the fact that none will have a Y chromosome. The female that received the pollen has no idea if it came from a male or a female that was stressed to give pollen.
The maternal female can be pollinated by both a forced sister, and another cut of her pollinated by a male brother. All of the progeny from both pollinations will shake out very similar...save for the Y chromosome distribution. Incrossing to the next generation will also show the same ratio of expressions between the female and standard crossings.
Cloning can be a very frustration endeavor, and even the slightest thing out of whack can cause things to not take well.
Putting grower err aside, the ability for a cut to root can vary from cultivar to cultivar and even from pheno to pheno. One plant may clone well, and it's sibling has trouble. Just the way things shake out in the genetic map for each individual...same as any other trait.
Then consider that a plant may not actually be ready to show root yet. In many cases a grower will have a plant that may well be two or three weeks vegged and it starts to throw braches big enough to take cuts from. The first ones a grower sees he cuts and tries to root, yet the plant may well not be mature (alternating nodes, etc...) and it may take a long time for it to take root, if at all. But, let that plant mature and then take mature cuts, and it may root in a week in a cup of water.
My own personal experience with femminized seeds is that there is absolutely no difference in them from their standard siblings, save for the fact that none will have a Y chromosome. The female that received the pollen has no idea if it came from a male or a female that was stressed to give pollen.
The maternal female can be pollinated by both a forced sister, and another cut of her pollinated by a male brother. All of the progeny from both pollinations will shake out very similar...save for the Y chromosome distribution. Incrossing to the next generation will also show the same ratio of expressions between the female and standard crossings.
GrassRoots
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I wasn't sure on this 'cause I hadn't smoked any seeds before today. I went ahead and packed a bowl of feminized seeds and I can say for certain the potency and taste was terrible. Packing a bowl of non-fem seeds now, should be high as a kite any minute.....
Simple answer no, may lose a little vigour, but thats about it!
If regular seeds are available, get them. Less tendency to be any hermie traits. I grew out 2 strains that were fem only and they were fine.
Krusher
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mantizz007
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There sill be no less vigor from a fem seed than from it's regular bred sibling. The recombination has the very same genetic material to work with in both instances.
For what you are saying to be true one could also say that femminized seeds have more of a tendency to show intersex than their regular bred siblings...which simply isn't true. If it is, then tell us how?
Well selected parent stock produces good progeny, no matter if the breeding is regular or using a forced fem.
To say otherwise requires a bit of explanation of how what you are saying could possibly be.
Forcing a female to produce male flowers causes it to be intersex. Its basically stressing the plant until that trait is unlocked to get the pollen from the male flowers. This trait can be passed on. I am not saying that all fem seeds will show it but the trait will be there no matter what. The possibility of it happening is still there. Reg seeds you won't have to worry about that, if the breeding stock is true. Reg seeds are not stressed to intersex so unless the genetics are not good to begin with then there should be no intersex.
