Monsanto's Really needs to be STOPPED HELP

[mosstrooper]

Monsanto was able to win this court case--in Canada of all places. Who would have thunk it

For many years i used to think of Canada as one of those countrys, like Denmark, or Norway, a really healthy progressive, liberal, good place, a beacon of light among the jaded semi democracys of the West.

Now i just see it as a incredibly regressive country full of really progressive people. (Think oil tar sands).

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Ahhh. so there we have it. "Science is worried about GM", as you say. OK then. As I said before, much of that worry comes not from science based observations, but from small farmers and farmer's unions, who would like to keep things as they are and stay in business. I can totally understand that. I want to stay in business also (BTW, I grow absolutely NO GM modified crops). But farming cannot stand still as each day more and more people need to eat.

I can only assume this is the science I requested from you.

"That worry comes not from science based observations, but from small farmers and farmers' unions" as you say. OK then. As I've posted before, science points to the worries. Maybe you think the only researchers are "green" scientists (and therefore ignorant and childish)?

You've had plenty of evidence. You just refuse to see it.

Nobody is hoping that farming stands still... except those in favor of subsidies....

I know you think you have all the questions answered... but I also know that many don't exist yet.

It's impossible to open someone's mind who chooses to call people children, me a liar, and Monsanto helpful regardless of evidence to the contrary.

I'm about done here... this thread should serve as evidence that there is no making a horse drink.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Worldwide, alfalfa is the most widely grown crop - it's not even close. In the USA the amount grown is stunning.

Eastern Oregon is what is generally called 'high desert' country and while the soil in that part of our state can be challenging for many crops given limited water resources, etc. But alfalfa grows particularly well and given the mineral levels in Eastern Oregon an alfalfa is produced that is considered to be a 'high quality' product.

Oregon has a number of food production enterprises and cheese and organically grown beef are 2 important players. The cheese production is primarily concentrated in Tillamook and Bandon and the cheese produced are considered 'world class' by any definition.

Organic beef produced in Oregon don't need the hippies, peace queers, possible Muslims, et al that are distilling anger in Grapeman's weird version of Steinbeck's work in an updated version called 'The Drapes of Wrath' which from what I understand is about the pissed-off wife of a farmer in Pixley, California. Something like that.

At any rate - guess what? The dairymen in the milk producing regions won't buy 'new & improved' alfalfa - they want the anti-American real-deal alfalfa. Same with the organic beef producers.

Bastards! I'll bet they're still eating 'french fries' instead of honest-to-God, Monsanto-approved 'Freedom Fries'

Then again according to Sarah Palin: "I can see potato fields in Idaho from my home in Butt Crack, Alaska!"

Touching, eh?

CC

If this is paradise
I wish I had a lawn mower
You got it, You got it

 

[Trichromedout]

Just look what GMO rice has done in India. Poor farmers are committing suicide because they took out loans on GMO rice 100x more expensive than normal seed and it failed, epically. I appreciate what GMO has to offer, but it has a long way to go. I don't agree with ownership policies of seeds. I think it is crap farmers have to buy seed instead of producing their own....

 

[grapeman]

Worldwide, alfalfa is the most widely grown crop - it's not even close. In the USA the amount grown is stunning.

Eastern Oregon is what is generally called 'high desert' country and while the soil in that part of our state can be challenging for many crops given limited water resources, etc. But alfalfa grows particularly well and given the mineral levels in Eastern Oregon an alfalfa is produced that is considered to be a 'high quality' product.

Oregon has a number of food production enterprises and cheese and organically grown beef are 2 important players. The cheese production is primarily concentrated in Tillamook and Bandon and the cheese produced are considered 'world class' by any definition.

Organic beef produced in Oregon don't need the hippies, peace queers, possible Muslims, et al that are distilling anger in Grapeman's weird version of Steinbeck's work in an updated version called 'The Drapes of Wrath' which from what I understand is about the pissed-off wife of a farmer in Pixley, California. Something like that.

At any rate - guess what? The dairymen in the milk producing regions won't buy 'new & improved' alfalfa - they want the anti-American real-deal alfalfa. Same with the organic beef producers.

Bastards! I'll bet they're still eating 'french fries' instead of honest-to-God, Monsanto-approved 'Freedom Fries'

Then again according to Sarah Palin: "I can see potato fields in Idaho from my home in Butt Crack, Alaska!"

Touching, eh?

CC

If this is paradise
I wish I had a lawn mower
You got it, You got it

About the only part of this post that made any sense to me was the part where farmers bought what they wanted to buy. No one forced anyone to buy GM product. And so it goes, we are still a basically free country. So the point is?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

 

[Zapaleniec]

Anyone who say that gmo is made to "feed the humanity" is just stupid ignorant. Do some research about how many food is destroyed during to open market policy, and why more and more food comes from china where as you know isnt much space for living not to mention for growing. This is just about money and control food over the world. Simple.

 

[StRa]

About the only part of this post that made any sense to me was the part where farmers bought what they wanted to buy. No one forced anyone to buy GM product. And so it goes, we are still a basically free country. So the point is?

Trolling as usual...........ahahahahhahah.........

have you read this post???????

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=4199184&postcount=96

But in this case, Wikileaks cables leaked information regarding global food policy as it relates to U.S. officials — in the highest levels of government — that involves a conspiracy with Monsanto to force the global sale and use of genetically-modified foods.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

High fructose corn syrup

Soy anything

These aren't in very many products...

Read your labels and vote with your dollar...

And give grapeman a hug.

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

High fructose corn syrup

Soy anything

These aren't in very many products...

Read your labels and vote with your dollar...

And give grapeman a hug.

this guy! thank you

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I noticed a fast food chain that listed soy allergy alerts for its cheese.

I'm sure it's probably just a minor discrepancy.

Certainly they were the only purveyor of those cheap calories that were upheld as a landmark achievement by some of the uninformable that offered such atrocity.

 

[elmanito]

No one forced anyone to buy GM product. And so it goes, we are still a basically free country.

You still live under the ground as a mole.US consumers don't know what they're buying since the products are not labeled for GM consisting ingredients.To avoid this you have to buy organic made products, but the organic are far more expensive than the unorganic products, since the unorganic products are subsidized, so people with a small wallet are forced to buy GM made products, because it is cheaper thanks to the subsidize.

So again for you this wonderful pic

and

Namaste

 

[anavar]

damn, this thread is a real eye opener for me. does anyone happen to know if european products are labelled for GM? i always try to avoid artificial sweeteners and flavor enhancers and other crap like that and i would really like to know more about this.

thanks for posting.

 

[mosstrooper]

No one forced anyone to buy GM product. And so it goes, we are still a basically free country. So the point is?

Im not sure which country you are in that is free, though i can probably guess.

It looks like we are forced to eat GM foods or Meat fed with GM.

Obviously i could choose not to eat anymore, but we all know where that leads.

http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/02/09/europe-opening-the-door-to-gmo-crops/

So much food is now contaminated with GMO that is almost impossible to avoid, and i strongly suspect the situation is a lot worse than they are telling us.

 

[Dr_Tre]

Might be wrong but I think european food is labeled GM if it contains more than 2% GMO.
On a side note the US ambassador in Bg wrote a pro-GMO article in a popular newspaper, claiming that our traditional farming is far behind modern agriculture, but we could make up for it fast by using GMO.Americans have been doing this for over 13 years and nothing bad happened.
What you think about that?

 

[mosstrooper]

Might be wrong but I think european food is labeled GM if it contains more than 2% GMO.

Does that count for the sort of Sh*t in a box type fast food that people buy from take aways though, Southern Fried Chicken type outlets etc?

Not that i eat this muck, nor would i advocate it.

 

[dagnabit]

On a side note the US ambassador in Bg wrote a pro-GMO article in a popular newspaper, claiming that our traditional farming is far behind modern agriculture, but we could make up for it fast by using GMO.Americans have been doing this for over 13 years and nothing bad happened.
What you think about that?

dont wanna hear it!!!!
it conflicts with the anticorporate hipster attitude/image ive been told is cool!

 

[elmanito]

GM varieties which are approved by the EFSA don't have to be labeled for GM ingredients in your grocery store.90% of the normal livestock like cows, pigs or chickens gets gm ingredients to eat which aren't labeled in your butcher shop or supermarket.

Namaste

 

[Dr_Tre]

Yes, I believe avoiding the food from the supermarket is a nice move.Try to buy as much food as you can from local small-scale farmers that use traditional methods.Me? I live in the country and have a garden and thank god I`m able to produce a fair amount of my own food, organic, of course.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

dont wanna hear it!!!!
it conflicts with the anticorporate hipster attitude/image ive been told is cool!

Sigh....

I only wish it was about cool.

Good to see you still hanging around dag.

Did you learn anything or are you in a holding pattern with grapeman?