Outdoor Organics, how to water without killing micro beasts?

[Bullfrog44]

Hello everybody! I am new to the whole organic growing and I have recently found the importance of clean water. I live in an area where chlorine and chloramine in my water. Chlorine can be bubbled out but chloramine can only be filtered out. So my question is, how do you water your outdoor plants with clean water? I want to be able to set up automatic sprinklers but don't want to use regular water. Are there inline filters with high flow rates that can run with outdoor hoses and timers?

I would love to hear how some of you guys have been doing this. Thanks everybody.

 

[Motta-Tokka]

Are you positive chloramine is being used? Its a common misconception that we assume the switch over. Your local fish store should know as well as the water dept.

 

[Bullfrog44]

yup, sent in samples to my local water department and got a full report.

 

[wisco61]

A much easier solution would be a water pump in a res/rain barrel on a timer. Also:

Chloramine can be removed from bathwater and birthing tubs by adding 1000 mg of vitamin C (as the ascorbic acid form) to a medium size bathtub (about 40 gallons of water).

 

[mad librettist]

Outdoor Organics, how to water without killing micro beasts?

vitamin c, molasses, a bit of compost slurry, etc... will all neutralize oxidizers like chloramine.

you could use an inline device for applying liquid/powder ferts.

 

[C21H30O2]

wut ml said, you need asorbic acid or vitamin C. crush it up and put it in your water reservoir. let it sit for a night and your good to go. a handfull of compost will help as well as the chlormines will attack it and non will be left to attack your microherd.

 

[Bullfrog44]

Interesting.....This is what people in Humbolt are doing? We are talking outdoor plants that take up to 50 gal a week.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

wut ml said, you need asorbic acid or vitamin C. crush it up and put it in your water reservoir. let it sit for a night and your good to go. a handfull of compost will help as well as the chlormines will attack it and non will be left to attack your microherd.

Seaweed extracts contain ascorbic acid @ 5% [cite]

CC

 

[mad librettist]

Outdoor Organics, how to water without killing micro beasts?

we really need a sticky with microbemans experiment with molasses and chlorine. he found it took very little of the reducing sugars in molasses to neutralize quite a bit of water, but it could take time.

I believe he found compost neutralized Cl instantly. so a slurry strained with paint strainer in an inline liquid concentrate applicator thingy on the very end of your system would neutralize it before it hits the ground, without fouling your pipes with bioslime.

 

[Bullfrog44]

Very interesting information you guys.

My application will be a hose faucet that is places out of the way on the side of my house in the shade. This is where I will fill a 50-60 gallon garbage can. I will be using air stones and pumps to keep the water moving.........

Now from what you guys are telling me, I could just get some compost and a compost mesh screen and just slam some compost into the 50 bucket and that will kill the Chloramine? (not Chlorine) Anything else I would have to do? For how long do I brew? How much compost?


Thanks for all your help so far.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Chlorine Substitutes In Water May Have Risks

From the article:

"It wasn't until about the 1970s that we started to realize that chlorine had some unintended consequences and one of the biggest unintended consequences of adding chlorine to water was that it reacts with some of the organic matter in the water to produce carcinogenic byproducts."

These byproducts didn't pose a big risk. Even so, the Environmental Protection Agency thought water systems could do better. So the EPA came up with new rules that prompted many water systems to start using chloramine, a chemical cousin of chlorine. It's now used in about 20% of the nation's drinking water systems.

Better living through modern chemistry..............

CC

 

[Bullfrog44]

Totally separate conversation but did you guys know that the same fluoride they put in your water is the same fluoride they used to make Jews stupid and slow and not care about their surrounding in Natzi tournament camps........Scary shit.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Are you positive chloramine is being used? Its a common misconception that we assume the switch over. Your local fish store should know as well as the water dept.

In some states (Oregon) it is public law that the water districts post the latest analysis for the water that they sell to the various county and city water companies for distribution to homes and industry.

It may even be a federal law so it's worth check online to make sure with your supplier. This may not be the company that you actually send your monthly check to but rather the 'big distributor' that would be handling several counties.

The analysis for the water that comes into our home is posted every 48 hours including weekends and holidays.

CC

 

[mad librettist]

Outdoor Organics, how to water without killing micro beasts?

yes the compost will neutralize chloramine, via the same process you are avoiding in your soil plot.

 

[Bullfrog44]

yes the compost will neutralize chloramine, via the same process you are avoiding in your soil plot.

Sometimes I am slow, I think you lost me.

 

[Yzma]

Are you growing within reach of your water hose? I seem to recall Some gardening sites offering a filter that you screw into the faucet that you screw the hose into that will filter out chlorine. I don't recall the site off the top of my head but maybe try Peaceful Valley's website or Johnny's Seeds Site

 

[Bullfrog44]

Not looking to get out chlorine. I am looking to get out Chloramine.

 

[kannubis]

Growing in dirt has the stuff in it you would be adding by dumping compost into your reservoir. Use lots of compost and dirt in your soil mix and water with a garden hose connected straight to the spigot.

 

[Bullfrog44]

That just seems too simple kannubis. Does this work? Anybody concur?

 

[kannubis]

That just seems too simple kannubis. Does this work? Anybody concur?

One pound one plant. Germ 5/13/10, chop 10/5/10.