Question regarding Flushing

[canadian123]

I understand that when using organics that there is no need to flush. Actually I can feed right to the end of the plant's lifecycle.

My question is...do the leaves still turn yellow when the plant is almost ready to harvest without flushing?

In past organic grows, I used distilled water for the last 2 weeks and the plant leaves did turn yellow which helped me determine when the plant was ready to harvest. If I don't flush will I get the same results or will the leaves still be green?

Thanks,

c123

 

[B. Friendly]

i used clearing solution in my organic crop but only cuz i had it. it was still burning pretty white without. but i would use it anyways. it's clearing something out and it did for me a little better cure...

but your girls will go longer for sure when using organics. my purple kush girls would always be done by week 10 of flower if using fertilizers, like they need to be cut asap by then... but same girls in organic soil, man they just go and go. but i think they take a little longer to finish cuz i am thinkin that they are not dying from fertilizers which sends signals to finish faster since the plant is dying earlier.

in organic the plant is healthier and lives longer because of it. so this intuitively would equate into the plant lasting longer and finishing later. this was my experience.

 

[Microbeman]

I understand that when using organics that there is no need to flush. Actually I can feed right to the end of the plant's lifecycle.

My question is...do the leaves still turn yellow when the plant is almost ready to harvest without flushing?

In past organic grows, I used distilled water for the last 2 weeks and the plant leaves did turn yellow which helped me determine when the plant was ready to harvest. If I don't flush will I get the same results or will the leaves still be green?

Thanks,

c123

the yellowing of leaves is a natural process as the plant approaches death so yes you'll get the same or similar results.

 

[Scrappy4]

I always thought finish times were specific to variety but could be lengthened with high N levels but not really anything to do with organic or not....scrappy

 

[whodair]

do you want the plants to finish green ?? seems like you did it right the first time if you're using bottled organics...

 

[canadian123]

Would I prefer my plants to finish green...no.

There are so many opinions with regards to feeding with organics it's very confusing. I've read numerous posts with people saying it is perfectly fine to feed right to the very end...others say to stop 2 weeks before harvest and just use plain distilled water.

My last grow I used plain water for the last 2-3 weeks of a 10 week strain. My results were acceptable so I figured this time I would try something different. I always had the thought in the back of my mind that I could have made things better if I still fed my plants the last 2-3 weeks instead of using plain water.

With my current project the last 2 weeks I'm using blackstrap molasses and slowly cutting back on the bottled organics (every second watering using plain distilled) but I will feed right to the very end. I can still look at the trichomes to tell when the plant was ready but my concern was whether or not the leaves would lose their pigment and change color...thus affecting taste.

c123

 

[accessndx]

When I don't remember to flush, my chick always gives me shit.

 

[redneck shogun]

Here's the thing, unless you are running the same plant every time then you are just complicating things unnecessarily. Most plants well senescence at different rates and times depending genetics and environment. Some may never. I personally believe it will smoke better if it isn't green, but this takes experience with those plants in your environment to get it right so you harvest at peak ripeness.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I would always flush for at least 7 days organics or not.

 

[Hank Hemp]

When did the notion start that stopping organic ferts the last 10 days to two weeks was flushing. It's what I do to use up the last of expense ferts. I'm cheap and it takes awhile for organics ferts to get to be useful to the plant anywho.

 

[mad librettist]

Question regarding Flushing

someone please explain to me why it's called flushing? as far as I know, when you starve a plant certain nutrients are moved from old growth to the more important new growth. in the case of cannabis, the new growth is the buds.

my feeling is that as long as you refrain from giving levels of plant available nutrients high enough to mess with natural senescence, everything will be fine.

if you feel nutrient stress is desired, just let the soil get drier before you water, and don't saturate the soil. the microherd runs on water.

 

[Microbeman]

There are organics which are using bottled fertilizers and organics which is counting on the organic matter in the soil to provide nutrients. There are some 'organic fertilizers' which have been exposed for using some inorganic ingredients. If you happen to be using these, then I cannot make a comment, not knowing the details. If you are truly growing organic as in the other method mentioned, then there is absolutely no need whatsoever to flush, however there is also no sense in adding something to the soil in the last couple of weeks of life (e.g. fish hydrolysate) besides water. In a truly natural growing method the plant will take what nutrients it needs according to the phase of its life it is in. BTW watering with distilled water is not a great idea. I think you said that. If you are purchasing water, better to use spring water but tap water (better yet well water) is okay to use if you dechlorinate it.

 

[canadian123]

There are organics which are using bottled fertilizers and organics which is counting on the organic matter in the soil to provide nutrients. There are some 'organic fertilizers' which have been exposed for using some inorganic ingredients. If you happen to be using these, then I cannot make a comment, not knowing the details. If you are truly growing organic as in the other method mentioned, then there is absolutely no need whatsoever to flush, however there is also no sense in adding something to the soil in the last couple of weeks of life (e.g. fish hydrolysate) besides water. In a truly natural growing method the plant will take what nutrients it needs according to the phase of its life it is in. BTW watering with distilled water is not a great idea. I think you said that. If you are purchasing water, better to use spring water but tap water (better yet well water) is okay to use if you dechlorinate it.

Thanks.

Why is distilled bad?

I've never had a problem with it before. I just add some CalMag to mix every watering or so and I've never seen any defeciencies with my previous experiences.

Also, I'm not purchasing my water but using the water from my dehumidifyer instead.

I'm using BOGs growing method so that you understand what I'm using.

Promix BX
Worm Castings
Blood/Bone/Kelp/Dolomite Limestone
Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Veg
Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow
Botanicare CalMag
Botanicare Liquid Karma
Earth Juice Bloom
Blackstrap molasses

c123

 

[greenmatter]

check BurnOne's sig. the man does know his stuff.

 

[Microbeman]

Not a big deal. Distilled is not bad, just missing some of the components of regular water. No worries - use away, especially if you are not buying it. I always say...use what you have.

 

[mad librettist]

you know, they were talking recently on the radio about clouds, and apparently they are made up in part out of microbes. no joke.

rainwater. look into it.

 

[Microbeman]

you know, they were talking recently on the radio about clouds, and apparently they are made up in part out of microbes. no joke.

rainwater. look into it.

So tht's why thunderstorms boost N...huh?

 

[mad librettist]

So tht's why thunderstorms boost N...huh?

I dunno... I thought lightning strikes fix N?

 

[schwagg]

that's all i use, rainwater..

 

[Bullfrog44]

I use lightning.