raising and lowering ph

[greenmatter]

You can argue all you want as well GS.
NYCD did not get its smell and taste from generator exhaust.
That's the most fucked up retarded response I've seen from any member here.
You sir are full of shit.

was typing when the exhaust thing was posted ... wow ... anyone know of a web site where i can get thicker foil for my hat ... the one thing that i have learned in the last 8 pages is that i don't think i want whatever you have been smokin' GS ... i would quit while you are ahead on this one boss. don't think pictures are gonna help any more. was really trying to give you the benefit of the doubt there for a while (and so were others) but i'm done with that. good luck with your ph issues.

 

[ganjah shaman]

actually my lights are pushing 430 wts each and i got 4 t-5s going as well,my reflection is this stuff my buddy gets from the military,they use it for plains and shit to bounce radar and stuff like that back off the plane,ill post a pic of it as well,its kinda like mylar but it has all these rings in it and they somehow manipulate the way the light moves over it,it also blocks infrared and other detection devices as well,none of the light in my room leaves my room,there are no dark spots or black holes,this makes a tremendous difference in how much light my plants can actually get,i would guestimate that there are about 700,000 lumans bouncing around my room during lights on i dont know for sure i would have to measure it.but put it this way,the base of my plants are getting 70,000 lumans and that is through the canopy,thats actually like 5 to 10 thousand lumans more than the light is actually producing.My plants will finish at arround 6 feet tall there all about 4 right now,i expect that i will pull arround 13 lbs again

 

[ganjah shaman]

i understand where your coming from db,lets go back to terpenoids,terpenoids are made up of carbon molecules these molecules can be extracted and it has been show that they retain there scent,now the cannabis plant is know for having some of the best terpenoids of all plant matter,other plants would be like citris or mint these terpenoids also know as isoprenoids are basically scent molecules,and when they are broken down to there base form(whether by soil or chemical)the carbon structure retains its scent,this sent retaining carbon then combines with the plants own cell structure,adding its characteristic to the plant(ie,its scent)the wonderful thing about marijuana is that it has these terpenoid cells already set up so it really absorbs the incoming terpenoids and retains the original carbon structure and retains the original scent

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

got a link to back your assumptionS?

 

[ganjah shaman]

sorry bro i dont have any links on this stuff,in fact i seriously doubt that this info is easy to get to in cannabis botany,you got to go to school me and several friends all study this hard core we have been using fruit for years a lot of people have,its all about the plant man it has a built in ability to absorb terpenoids,and terpenoids are in EVERYTHING man,they are one of the most easily absorbed carbons there are,if you really want to study up on this try looking up scents and scent extraction methods,look up terpenoids and isoprenoids and how they relate to transference bio organically,and study plant biology and how plants absorb the nutrients from there surroundings.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

do you realize this is all one sentence?

sorry bro i dont have any links on this stuff,in fact i seriously doubt that this info is easy to get to in cannabis botany,you got to go to school me and several friends all study this hard core we have been using fruit for years a lot of people have,its all about the plant man it has a built in ability to absorb terpenoids,and terpenoids are in EVERYTHING man,they are one of the most easily absorbed carbons there are,

flips coin...

if you really want to study up on this try looking up scents and scent extraction methods,look up terpenoids and isoprenoids and how they relate to transference bio organically,and study plant biology and how plants absorb the nutrients from there surroundings.

I've got a better idea. Try backing up what you post with facts first. Then you can post a floater or two. But you're the dog turd, cat piss, diesel fume guy so your floaters are really just whoppers.

 

[ganjah shaman]

i mean we are talking 6 yr of research and application between 7 guys and this is only one of the things we have been experimenting with,and its not just us its people all over the country,,the medical lid is about to be blown off of cannabis,me and my buddies figured this out in 03 and we have been experimenting and testing methods ever since,right now we have a grow that utilities only amino acids as its nuet solution and these plants are booming,we have are own strains and when the time is right we will release them,but the feds have to legalize otherwise your just setting your self up for prison time and having them seize all your hard work,anyways theres to much here for me to just say here and there is also the fact that some information just does not need to be shared.

 

[ganjah shaman]

bro i dont have to back anything up,i could give a hoot whether you believe me or not but one thing i will say for fact and thats that there is no way that you can scientifically disprove what i have said,because i am right.ive given you the knowledge you need to research it your self,you want my 6 yrs worth of note books?not gonna happen,research terpenoids and isoprenoids,research the bio synthetic relationship they have with other materials concentrate your research on plant biology and its relationship to terpenoids,you will find out that it is a carbon structure that is absorbed intact by the plant,period!

 

[greenmatter]

6 years , 7 guys ... by my math thats 42 man years to figure out (or not) that you should lime your mixes. seems like you got the rocket science down long before the basics, but then most of the rocket science you have posted sounds and smells like BS to most of us. when you release your killer strains on the world why don't you name one BOB (thats based on bullshit) to honor what you have thrown down on the last three pages.

 

[HenriettaHippo]

6 years , 7 guys ... by my math thats 42 man years to figure out (or not) that you should lime your mixes. seems like you got the rocket science down long before the basics, but then most of the rocket science you have posted sounds and smells like BS to most of us. when you release your killer strains on the world why don't you name one BOB (thats based on bullshit) to honor what you have thrown down on the last three pages.

I'll smoke to that....

 

[greenmatter]

bro i dont have to back anything up,i could give a hoot whether you believe me or not but one thing i will say for fact and thats that there is no way that you can scientifically disprove what i have said,because i am right.ive given you the knowledge you need to research it your self,you want my 6 yrs worth of note books?not gonna happen,research terpenoids and isoprenoids,research the bio synthetic relationship they have with other materials concentrate your research on plant biology and its relationship to terpenoids,you will find out that it is a carbon structure that is absorbed intact by the plant,period!

if you really think that none of this could be disproved it would be fun to see you run into spurr. he would make short and very bloody work of you. anyone out there that can point him this direction? anyone want to lay odds on if he starts laughing uncontrollably or gets a nose bleed first. i have never seen him stumped but i think this might leave him speechless.

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

At least this thread is entertaining.

 

[ganjah shaman]

hey im not trying to get in a pissing contest and im not trying to dis anyone off but stighnobevoli you obviously didnt read my post,why in the heck would i use 7.5 qrts of ph up?and as far as being a dick head post looks like your the dickhead,and unless somone says dolomite lime is water soluble and will raise your pH in water then the question is not adaquetly answered and left open for interpretation and one love you rock no offense taken and i hope none given.
midnight
its not self explanitory if you have never encountered the information then you dont know.Ive been growing in humbolt for 12 yrs and i grow the cron,the only time ive ever used dolomite lime is to balance the pH of the soil never water,now im up on a mnt and i cant just pop into town and ask the guys down at the many supply stores what the deal is and since ive never encountered the problem before,i thought i would post on here and see if somone had any info or suggestions,ignorence of a subject dosnt make you a dick head just lacking in sufficient knowledge concerning that subject,and if i didnt get an adaquate responce ill keep asking the question untill i do

I obviously know about dolomite as a soil conditioner,half you cats didn't even comprehend my original question,and the other half of you couldn't figure out what a reservoir was,so i really don't expect any of you to comprehend much any ways.

 

[ganjah shaman]

6 years , 7 guys ... by my math thats 42 man years to figure out (or not) that you should lime your mixes. seems like you got the rocket science down long before the basics, but then most of the rocket science you have posted sounds and smells like BS to most of us. when you release your killer strains on the world why don't you name one BOB (thats based on bullshit) to honor what you have thrown down on the last three pages.

i stated several times that i used vermiculite perolite and dolomite in my mix

 

[greenmatter]

At least this thread is entertaining.

yeah but ?... thinking i'm out.

 

[greenmatter]

do you realize this is all one sentence?



flips coin...

I've got a better idea. Try backing up what you post with facts first. Then you can post a floater or two. But you're the dog turd, cat piss, diesel fume guy so your floaters are really just whoppers.

hey disco could you clarify the subtle difference between a floater and a whopper? we should get some good solid info on the page one way or another.

 

[ganjah shaman]

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INTRODUCTION
FLORAL SCENTS ARE IMPORTANT...
DETERMINATION OF FLORAL SCENT...
LOCATION OF EMISSION OF...
TEMPORAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL...
BIOSYNTHESIS OF FLORAL SCENT...
REGULATION OF SCENT...
EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
FUTURE PROSPECTS
LITERATURE CITED

As mentioned in the introduction, there have been few studies concerning the biochemical synthesis of floral scents, and our recent investigation into the biogenesis of floral scent production in our model organisms C. breweri and snapdragon represent, to our knowledge, the only examples to date in which isolation of enzymes and genes responsible for the formation of scent volatiles in the flower have been accomplished. These results are discussed below. Fortunately, too, many of the volatiles found in floral scents are also synthesized in vegetative tissues under specific conditions (mostly for defense purposes), and some information concerning their biosynthesis is also available. While it cannot be taken for granted that the synthesis of such compounds in vegetative tissue will in all cases be identical (i.e. same reactions, same enzymes) to their synthesis in flowers, and while there is currently no evidence that volatiles synthesized in vegetative tissues are transported into flowers, it is nevertheless instructive to review this information.

Terpenes, especially monoterpenes such as linalool, limonene, myrcene, and trans-beta -ocimene, but also some sesquiterpenes such as farnesene, nerolidol, and caryophyllene, are common constituents of floral scent (Fig. 1A). They are also often found in vegetative tissues, where they serve mostly as defense compounds. In work done mostly with vegetative tissue, but also with daffodil petals, it was found that monoterpenes are synthesized in the plastidic compartment. In this cellular compartment, isopentenyl pyrophosphate (IPP) is derived from the mevalonate-independent "Rohmer" pathway (Lichtenthaler et al., 1997). IPP can be isomerized to dimethylallyl diphosphate (DMAPP), and one molecule of IPP is condensed with one molecule of DMAPP in a reaction catalyzed by the enzyme geranyl pyrophosphate synthase (GPPS) to form GPP, the universal precursor of all the monoterpenes. Similar work with vegetative tissue has revealed that in the cytosol, IPP is derived from the mevalonic acid pathway (McCaskill and Croteau, 1998), and two molecules of IPP and one molecule of DMAPP are condensed in a reaction catalyzed by the enzyme farnesyl pyrophosphate synthase (FPPS) to form FPP, the universal precursor of all the sesquiterpenes (McGarvey and Croteau, 1995).

In the last few years, genes encoding the enzymes responsible for the synthesis of many monoterpenes and sesquiterpenes have been identified and characterized (Bohlmann et al., 1998) (Fig. 1A). However, to date, only the enzyme that catalyzes the formation of the acyclic monoterpene linalool has been characterized in floral tissue. C. breweri flowers emit copious amounts of S-linalool from the petals, stigma, and style (the stigma and style also emit large amounts of linalool oxides), and we were able to demonstrate that linalool was synthesized from GPP in a one-step reaction (Fig. 1A) catalyzed by a monomeric enzyme linalool synthase (LIS) (Pichersky et al., 1994). We were also able to purify LIS from C. breweri stigmata by employing several chromatographic techniques (Pichersky et al., 1995) and to obtain peptide sequences that allowed us to isolate a LIS cDNA clone from a C. breweri flower cDNA library (Dudareva et al., 1996).

The phenylpropanoids, which are derived from Phe, constitute a large class of secondary metabolites in plants. Many are intermediates in the synthesis of structural cell components (e.g. lignin), pigments (e.g. anthocyanins), and defense compounds. These are not usually volatile. However, several phenylpropanoids whose carboxyl group at C9 is reduced (to either the aldehyde, alcohol, or alkane/alkene) and/or which contain alkyl additions to the hydroxyl groups of the benzyl ring or to the carboxyl group (i.e. ethers and esters) are volatiles (Fig. 1B). Our work with C. breweri flowers has now resulted in the identification and characterization of three enzymes that catalyze the formation of floral volatiles from this group: (iso)methyleugenol, benzylacetate, and methylsalicylate. The enzymes are, respectively, S-adenosyl-L-Metiso) eugenol O-methyltransferase (IEMT), acetyl-CoA:benzylalcohol acethyltransferase (BEAT), and S-adenosyl-L-Met:salicylic acid carboxyl methyltransferase (SAMT) (Wang et al., 1997; Dudareva et al., 1998a, 1998b; Wang and Pichersky, 1998; Ross et al., 1999). In addition, we have identified and characterized the enzyme S-adenosyl-L-Met:benzoic acid carboxyl methyltransferase (BAMT), which catalyzes the formation of methylbenzoate in snapdragon flowers (Bushue et al., 1999). cDNAs encoding all of these enzymes have also been characterized.
Thursday, September 30th, 2010

There are numerous references in popular Cannabis literature which claim that Cannabis strains can smell like mango, melon, and even grapes. Well, it might not be their imagination. The odor of cannabis comes from over 120 terpenes (a.k.a. terpenoids fragrance molecules) that are made by the plant(1).
maybe this can help you all out

 

[ganjah shaman]

these guys arnt the only guys playing arround and none of them have did any studies on cannabis specifically,but i have and so have several hundred other people

 

[ganjah shaman]

EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
TOP
INTRODUCTION
FLORAL SCENTS ARE IMPORTANT...
DETERMINATION OF FLORAL SCENT...
LOCATION OF EMISSION OF...
TEMPORAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL...
BIOSYNTHESIS OF FLORAL SCENT...
REGULATION OF SCENT...
EVOLUTION OF FLORAL SCENT
FUTURE PROSPECTS
LITERATURE CITED

An intriguing observation concerning floral scent is how variable this trait is. In many taxa, there are scented species that are closely related to non-scented ones, leading to the inescapable conclusion that the ability to produce and emit floral scent is an easily acquired, and easily lost, trait (Dudareva et al., 1996). Moreover, considering that floral scent is a complex mixture of chemicals, and practically no two closely related species emit identical mixtures of volatiles, it is clear that the ability to produce a specific floral scent volatile is an easily evolved trait. What is the basis for these evolutionary change

 

[ganjah shaman]

me