raising and lowering ph

[ganjah shaman]

ill put you up on something,fruit juice to lower pH has been around for a minute,just think if you are growing lemon diesel and you are using lemon juice for ph down.The plant absorbs that smell and taste,so in effect you are adding flavor and smell think about any fruit flavored cannabis and then think about adding the very fruit to your water as a pH down,grapes blueberry's they will definitely make your plant smell like grapes or blueberries

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

I'm taking off my boots and putting on hip waders.

 

[softyellowlight]

I'm taking off my pants and putting on my wizard cap.

 

[ganjah shaman]

hey peeps
so maybe you think that fruit juice in your mix doesn't do anything,but im gonna tell you that we have not come close to understanding this wonderful plant.Marijuana absorbs what you give it.grape juice fed to you plants over the course of there life will absorb the scent of the grapes,not only that the grape juice will also stain the plant purple.this applies to all fruit.Come on how do you think they got all these different strains to smell.Do you really think orange mango just naturally smells like oranges,or grape grape or lemon lemon,on this up-coming run im growing strawberry cough,i have 5 gallons of concentrated strawberry juice that i will be mixing in my clear and giving to my plants for the course of the grow.This isn't new or crazy but common knowledge here in nor cal.I have a lady friend who grows nothing but fruit strains and she uses concentrated fruit juice in all her mixes and also uses composted fruit of the same strain in her soil mix,she is all about growing this way and her harvest are sold to the co-op before there in the ground.How do you think ice cream smells like ice cream?its the vanilla,how do you think cat piss smells like cat piss?Because they used cat piss in there nuet mix,same thing with dog shit,or any other strain.Why do you think nysd smells so sour.Cuz they ran there generator exhaust into there grow room and thats some smelly shit.If you continue to put whatever scent you want into your strain then after several generations that strain will start smelling like whatever you put into it.
so hey no disrespect but you guys can where what ever you want,but these are inside trade secrets maybe instead of dismissing them as crazy you might want to check into it.It is possible that since ive been in this biz for 12 yrs,i might actually know somthing

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

hey peeps
so maybe you think that fruit juice in your mix doesn't do anything,but im gonna tell you that we have not come close to understanding this wonderful plant.

obviously

Marijuana absorbs what you give it.

Yep, in the form of npk, etc.

grape juice fed to you plants over the course of there life will absorb the scent of the grapes,not only that the grape juice will also stain the plant purple.

bogus info

this applies to all fruit.

bogus

Come on how do you think they got all these different strains to smell.

terpenoids, selection and breeding

... on this up-coming run im growing strawberry cough,i have 5 gallons of concentrated strawberry juice that i will be mixing in my clear and giving to my plants for the course of the grow.

Knock yourself out.

This isn't new or crazy but common knowledge here in nor cal.

Sounds like somebody's yanking your chain.

I have a lady friend who grows nothing but fruit strains and she uses concentrated fruit juice in all her mixes and also uses composted fruit of the same strain in her soil mix,she is all about growing this way and her harvest are sold to the co-op before there in the ground.How do you think ice cream smells like ice cream?its the vanilla,how do you think cat piss smells like cat piss?Because they used cat piss in there nuet mix,same thing with dog shit,or any other strain.Why do you think nysd smells so sour.Cuz they ran there generator exhaust into there grow room and thats some smelly shit.

I think you've been whiffing the fumes, bro.

If you continue to put whatever scent you want into your strain then after several generations that strain will start smelling like whatever you put into it.
so hey no disrespect but you guys can where what ever you want,but these are inside trade secrets maybe instead of dismissing them as crazy you might want to check into it.It is possible that since ive been in this biz for 12 yrs,i might actually know somthing

Yeah, you know how to post myths on a weed forum.

 

[greenmatter]

i'm thinking the next time i view this thread i'm gonna need a wet suit and a foil hat.

ganjah FYI there are folks reading this that have been around the block one or two times. some of the things you have posted are throwing up the B.S. flag for at least one or two of us. posting a photo or two may be your only out on this one. you are IMHO losing the crowd. show us

 

[ganjah shaman]

ok so how can i upload pics to this post?but i dont know what pics are gonna do they could come from anywhere,and since non of you know what i look like using my own face wont prove anything,but hey ill throw up some pics i just need to learn how to post them

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

You need to learn more than how to post pics.

 

[ganjah shaman]

and let me ask you something db have you ever tried it,do you know anyone that has?,because we do it all the time,myth? maybe to some but if you don't believe me try it on one of your own plants,it doesn't even have to be fruity just regular ol weed,feed it pH balanced fruit juice over the course of its life time,see what it smells like when your done, and then tell me its bogus info,the plant does and will absorb the scent of the fruit,just try it and see,what you think your shit dont smell like molasses when you've been feeding it molasses all its life.Just because you dont know that it works doesn't mean that it doesn't

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

Is this why you're using so much pH up, gs?

 

[ganjah shaman]

and db since you want to go all terpenoid on me what is a terpenoid?Its a naturally acurring organic compound usually in the form of essential oils,not only that they are found in all living things,they can be extracted from plant matter and used to make all kinds of scents,the marijuana plant sucks these terpenoids up and they in turn bond with the molecular structure of the plant,this in turn causes that plant to smell like the scent you are feeding it.
like i said we have not begun to even scratch the surface of this wonderful plant,you keep thinking its a myth and we will keep producing the fruity smelling pot that you love so much

 

[ganjah shaman]

let me use an example from powder mold,you have to know that powder mold will get into your strain and bond with it,then it will be handed down through that strain for generations to come.maybe this isnt the best example but it should make you stop and think for a minute.im not crazy and i am stoned but i do know whats up,and actually it dosnt require that much up because im using it in my clear,but im not running any fruit strains right now,so my pH issue on this post is dealing with my nuet solution.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

and db since you want to go all terpenoid on me what is a terpenoid?Its a naturally acurring organic compound usually in the form of essential oils,not only that they are found in all living things,they can be extracted from plant matter and used to make all kinds of scents,the marijuana plant sucks these terpenoids up and they in turn bond with the molecular structure of the plant,this in turn causes that plant to smell like the scent you are feeding it.
like i said we have not begun to even scratch the surface of this wonderful plant,you keep thinking its a myth and we will keep producing the fruity smelling pot that you love so much

And what do organic compounds do in soil? They break down into elements. No longer is the molasses you poured into your soil the same stuff your plant absorbs. Your plants may absorb some of the post elements your bacteria herd breaks down but your plants aren't absorbing molasses.

You might get a color change from chemical die (kool aid) but I'm not gonna fuck up my plants to prove a point.

Anything organic you're adding in way of rotten fruit, fruit juice etc has to be broken down in the soil before your roots can absorb, assuming you haven't killed the herd from hellishly low pH (altered with a wholesale load of chemical pH up.)

 

[ganjah shaman]

look bro the essential element of the terpenoid does not break down in the soil it is absorbed by the plant and becomes part of its cell structure,and if you break down the cannabis plant you will see that it has built in terpenoid receptors,its ready made to absorb.and no man i wouldn't use kool-aid on your plants,im talking about organic juiced fruit and concetrait it your self,i used 150 gal of strawberries to make 5 gal of juice

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

let me use an example from powder mold,you have to know that powder mold will get into your strain and bond with it,then it will be handed down through that strain for generations to come.

It doesn't work that way. Some strains are more susceptible to mold and it's hard to get rid of. Sometimes the environment is contaminated and re occurrences appear. But it isn't nor never becomes an in-borne parasite.

maybe this isnt the best example but it should make you stop and think for a minute.im not crazy and i am stoned but i do know whats up,and actually it dosnt require that much up because im using it in my clear,but im not running any fruit strains right now,so my pH issue on this post is dealing with my nuet solution.

You're sinking 32 gallons of ~8pH water low enough to need .25 quarts of chemical pH up. Whatever you're doing that you're afraid to admit here is no big deal, you just look like you're spinning a grower problem into some grow method you THINK is promising.

 

[ganjah shaman]

look bro you can argue with science all you want,but humboldt has already proved that powder mold can become a part of a strain,what you think as being prone to powder mold is more than likely a strain that has the mold already in it,thats why you get these strains that you cant get the mold out of,no matter what you do its keeps popping up,here in nor cal we have to deal with a lot of mold because the climate is so wet,my room has a 15 amp heppa filter in it just to be sure.Let me ask you something,if a seed bank said that there dankest strain has powder mold as part of its stricture,how much of it do you think they would sell?However if you tell everyone that this strain is ONLY PRONE to mold people are more likely to buy it. man this is all common knowledge from where i come from and being a market slave to the newest fad strain is not for me

 

[Sgt.Stedenko]

You can argue all you want as well GS.
NYCD did not get its smell and taste from generator exhaust.
That's the most fucked up retarded response I've seen from any member here.
You sir are full of shit.

 

[greenmatter]

ok so how can i upload pics to this post?but i dont know what pics are gonna do they could come from anywhere,and since non of you know what i look like using my own face wont prove anything,but hey ill throw up some pics i just need to learn how to post them

a 13 pound grow under 2000 watts is not going to be an easy photo to come up with so i suppose we will have to trust you. you can bet that if i got those numbers on a crop i would be taking pictures and starting my own thread. i think "13 Lbs off 2000 watts" might get a hit or two on this sight. what strains you got going? 6 zones off a plant sounds o.k. but i doubt they are finishing out at only 2 feet tall, how do you get 35 of them under your lights? i have said it before and i will say it again "i am computer retarded" so i can't help you with the upload thing but i know there is a thread that tells you how.

 

[ganjah shaman]

and what do you think you know about sour d i know the guys who developed it its orinally a cross of og kush and chem dog,it sure the hell wasnt soma and these guys are not rasta.it came from ny and no where else,all this other shit you here is from those who stoled the strain and put there own stamp on it,you my friend dont know what your talking about,and since there is no copy right laws its easy to steal a strain and call it your own how many people are gonna take you to court over it?,everything isnt about what you read on the internet,the cannibis underground runs deep in the us,even in cali and col people still have to watch out for the feds,a lot of people who grow never let anyone know what there doing and are not prone to telling secrets.

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

gs, you might know Gandhi but it doesn't mean your idea that fruits and fruity juices make fruity weed. The two have nothing to do with each other.

Any organic compound you pour or mix into your substrate has to break down into elements before your plants can absorb it. These elements no longer make up the compounds they originally were.

You're welcome to think whatever you want. But when you start posting dog turds and cat piss you need to be countered.