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165 Watt PLL Dresser Grow

fonzee

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Why don't you use bigger pots?

To get the pH higher just add a little baking powder to your watering solution.
If you want to get the pH of the soil to rise add a LITTLE bit of wood ashes. It will give some K as well.
 

MeLikesPCs

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Day 68

Day 68

Hey Glaus,

Happy New Year to you! My two girls are nothing compared to yours. Got some little buds going, but very weak so far.

Hi Fonz, I just transplanted into 1 gallon pots. Don't think I can go much bigger in this small space, but I'm always on the hunt for the perfect sized containers. I use PH Up mixed in water and nutes almost every time, but runoff is still always like 6.0 or less. I will try to buy some baking powder. What I really need to get is some dolomite lime and from now on mix into all soil before starting.
 

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fonzee

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I think you have a lot of space for bigger pots. Just find 2 containers that fill all of the space you have on the floor and poke drainage holes in them.
If height is not much of an issue you could stack pots one on top of the other.
You can get dolomite lime and mix a bit more than recommended in the soil you'll add while transplanting.

If not you could fix the pH by spreading 1\4 teaspoon of wood ashes on top of your soil.
It should do the trick.
 

MeLikesPCs

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Day 80

Day 80

I did not transplant, and don't have wood ashes. Just keep a steady flow of PH Up in the water. I did move them closer to the lights though.

Getting some buds, but not too impressive. Hopefully these will add some girth and frost over the next 2-3 weeks.

Forgot to water for too long and some buds suffered. Other than that, I'll be glad to have anything smokeable from this first grow.
 

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MeLikesPCs

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Temps

Temps

Thanks 420, Temps are very managable. I have a very large passive intake, an 80mm fan across bulbs, and 120mm exhaust fan on a controller. With lights on, usually about 75, off in the low 60s. Should I make it a little hotter for budding?
 

fonzee

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The best range is around 80-85°F but at the end of flowering you want it a bit lower, around 70.
Thats when lights are on.
 

MeLikesPCs

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Really? 80-85 with no extra CO2 in a micro grow? I thought around 75 was the goal? Perhaps that's why they grew so slow and small. Don't think I'm going to get much weight from this. Thanks.
 

fonzee

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I might be wrong with numbers as I'm used to celcius degrees. In celcius you want 24-28, more to the 27 for the first 2\3 of flowering, then around 23-24 degrees to make stuff purple if its gonna and to prevent mold.
Too cold and they will just grow slower.

If you want bigger yields start with transplanting. If you aim for just something to smoke you could transplant and space out your waterings to save yourself some work or you could stay with your current pots.
 

MeLikesPCs

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What Not to Do

What Not to Do

The party's over. Last night it was cold so I turned off the exhaust fan while watering and forgot to turn it back on.

This morning temps were over 100 degrees and the buds are brown and fried. I was just going to start flushing for the next week.

This sucks so bad. While this grow was not great, I was probably going to get a little decent bud. Months of work down the drain. I guess I'll keep feeding with plain water for about a week and then see if I can get anything smokeable from these crispy critters.

Hopefully someone will read this and learn from my mistake.
 

fonzee

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100 °F shouldn't fry your plants, the humidity rise makes the pistils die.
Try and give 'em a week but make sure you have a LOT of venting for a day and daily check for bud-mold.
 

MeLikesPCs

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Thanks fonz. Was up to 108, almost all the buds are brown and the leaves near the buds are brown, dry, and crackling apart. I'm going to cut off the damages leaves and plain water for a week with lots of venting, and we see what we get.

Thanks Glaus. Next week I'll upload pics before I chop them.
 

MeLikesPCs

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Day 106 - No recovery

Day 106 - No recovery

I have been just using plain water and flushed them once. I'm going to flush them one more time tonight, then chop, dry, and cure, and see if I get something smokable. I need to put these 2 out of their misery.

I learned a lot and next run I will do better.
 

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fonzee

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Most of it looks very much smokable to me.

Chop right before you need to water them, it will shorten the drying time.
 

MeLikesPCs

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Day 111 -Dresser Upgrade/Time to Flower 2nd Batch

Day 111 -Dresser Upgrade/Time to Flower 2nd Batch

1) I made the whole front of the dresser open, not just 2 out of the three drawer faces.

2) I added a second 120mm fan blowing across top bulbs.

3) I added a fourth 55 Watt PLL. This one is across the back wall to provide supplemental light for lower growth. So now I got 165 watts up top and 55 watts on bottom.

4) I changed the air filter--I use three layers of carbon filter that the external exhaust fan sucks through.

5) Transplanted two plants from PC to Dresser. From one gallon milk cartons into square 2.1 gallon pails and LST'ed.

They look happy in their new home. I'm going to probably flip to 12/12 in a few days. Hope they are both girls.
 

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someotherguy

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high bro, here's a couple pics of my mother box and i wish i'd discovered PL-L's before i bought the T5, lol.

here it is closed up.
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and a shot of it open. (i can point you to the build if you're interested)
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and here's a look inside my PL-L clone-box.
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and here's a shot of my DIY smart-pots which would be perfect for you, they hold approx. 1 - 1.5 liters of soil.
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and a shot of one just before chop.
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peace, and stay safe, SOG
 

Glaus

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Looks like a great upgrade, will be interesting to see how that lower PLL works out.
I am looking forward to the second round :)

Cheers :smoke:
 

MeLikesPCs

Member
Hi SOG,
Looks good. Dresser made from real wood is definitely better than brittle press-board.

I like reusable think plastic square pots. No mess, solid for LST tie-downs or scrog, easy to move, and won’t fall over.

Hi Glaus,
This round should be much better than the last. I have learned a lot, and hopefully there will be no surprises or mistakes. As long as a least one is female, I think this will end on a high note.

I transplanted them into more Fox Farm Ocean Forrest, but now I also mixed in one TBL per gallon of garden lime to avoid any PH problems.
 

Glaus

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We live and learn :).
The buds i have grown in soil are far more tastier than my buds grown in coco. But hopefully that will even out when I have learned to flush properly - live and learn ..

Have a nice monday
 

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