Lazyman's 16KW Headbanger

[Lazyman]

Which brand(s) of coco exhibited this behavior earlier on?

I'm not sure that I can say the same about the B'Cuzz (purple bag) or Canna (Pro+) that I've been using lately.

Hmm, never considered that it might just be my coco, I was using plain flushed Botanicare coco bricks. Had tons of problems dialing it in with the flood and drain tables I was using, especially when I tried it with organic bottled nutes (Pura Vida SUCKS.)

It's very interesting that you say that, Lazy. I used to use the exact same botanicare 'aeration formula' and i had all kinds of problems with that mix. It wasn't until i switched to B'Cuzz coco (unamended, pure coco) that my garden really took off. Which nutes are you planning to use with the aeration formula, and what ppm's are you feeding initially to let the coco "soak up" the right amount without getting burn? I'm not convinced on your theory of amended coco being better or worse than unamended, but i think it's definitely worthy of discussion.

P.S. To everyone out there who doesn't know already, the new Sun Systems 'Great White' reflector hoods are legitimately the single best innovation in growing technology over the last five years - i'm able to comfortably cover a 6x6 area, and have experimented with 8x8's with astounding results. Where i used to get about 1lb per light, i now get 2.5lb no sweat every time. Absurd!

Interesting to hear, thanks for the feedback! I have been using the aeration mx for cloning, then expanded it to preveg, then veg and now flower. So far so good, no issues to report yet. I'm using my same nutes, AN Sensi as a base and Maxibloom/Koolbloom later in flower. Since I use the constant-feed Blumats I keep the PPMs low on most strains, around 350-450PPM seems to be a sweet spot where I have no issues.

You just need one of these guarding your shit.



GSD/Akita
When it barks people back the fuck up! And they love to do nothing but guard their territory. Akitas are hard to socialize with other dogs, though.

R.I.P.

Aw sorry to hear about your dog, I can't imagine losing out Rottie/Ridgeback mix. She's a very well behaved dog but has no guarding instincts in her (and the only thing she barks at are other dogs on occasion.) Defintely wouldn't mind having an "alarm dog" to rile her up when needed. I still think a couple coils of razor wire on the ground would be a good thing for a fence-jumper to land on, and won't be noticed until its way too late. Not quite a booby trap, doesn't make any noise and will actually snag whoever jumps my fence so we can have a nice little chat.

 

[Rednick]

P.S. To everyone out there who doesn't know already, the new Sun Systems 'Great White' reflector hoods are legitimately the single best innovation in growing technology over the last five years - i'm able to comfortably cover a 6x6 area, and have experimented with 8x8's with astounding results. Where i used to get about 1lb per light, i now get 2.5lb no sweat every time. Absurd!

Any pics of them in action?

 

[maxmurder]

Any pics of them in action?

 

[SkizOflan]

My canopy dimensions are 16ftx10ft=160ft2 and i am running only 4kw HPS. My last harvest was 7 3/4lb in total (2 1/2lb Crystal OG and 5 1/4 Blue Dream). There were about 45 plants of each species (OG on left, BD on right).

Feel free to ask any questions, and i don't mean to bash Lazy's vertical light style as he get's way higher gpw than i do. Lazy is clearly harnessing more lumens per bulb, but i just want to let ppl know that the horizontal light game is also experiencing a revolution.

Cheers!

 

[Lazyman]

Beautiful shots man, thanks for sharing!

 

[Lazyman]

Ok, some updates!

Blue Dragon and Jackpot: Just in how much drying rack space they utilize, I show BD in a 64% yield lead over Jackpot. Purple Gorilla in a 57% yield over JP! Got me some new winners. BD has Giant, dense nugs covered in thick frost and smells like Sour D. PG also has large nugs, but the bud is solid purple, no green whatsoever and smells very good, kinda floral and fruity.

Chopped down the JP, Blue Dragons and Purple Gorillas, and one G13Xhaze. The G13 had molded pretty badly and lost about 1/3 of the buds. The remainder are nice and smell great, but would have done better with an additional week/ This one might just be too dense for my room, I will try a bigger dehuey and see if that helps.

Sent a sample of my latest Blue Dragon alcohol oil to a lab for potency testing, I can't wait to see the results! Thanks to my buddy running it there, you know who you are and you are awesome buddy!

Got some pics too:

My clone rack:

The flying bomber joint, made with 7 kinds of weed and 2 kinds of honey oil to hold it together:


Just some headstash:


Lollipopped jackpots a week into flower:


Purple Gorilla cola after being big-leafed:


Jackpot:


Blue Dragon:



Still 5 days before I chop down the Purple AK47 and Wows, but they're turning color nicely.

Gonna go pick up used pots and do a bug spray, plus have a bunch of oil to scrape out of pans. Busy night!

Later folks!

 

[catman]

LMAO @ flying bomber joint. You rule lazyman.

 

[nameless]

lazy that joint is hilarious. you should make it your icon. if you dont want to id love to sport it. congrats on the #s glad to see your just as lazy as always! kudos

 

[Rednick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXybGTkh3tY

 

[SkizOflan]

Lazy, how's everything working out with those drippers in coco? I'd like to hear your experience as the only time i ever really tried the blumants was when i was using the aeration coco mix. They've been sitting unused for months now..

1) What's in your feed mix? (ph/ppm)

2) How saturated do you keep the coco?

3) When do you flush?

4) Do you use an airstone in the res?

5) Do you clean/scrub the res between changes?


Also, what have you been doing lately for your foilars? What do you believe is the best recipe for late veg/early flower, or just the best recipe period? Have you had any success with liquid light or Max-FX/Folitech? I'm trying to get back on top of em' these days..

 

[Bobby Stainless]

Does that joint give to a "Trifecta" of smoke?

 

[Lazyman]

LMAO @ flying bomber joint. You rule lazyman.

hehe thanks! Buddy of mine made it, but we all smoked it!

lazy that joint is hilarious. you should make it your icon. if you dont want to id love to sport it. congrats on the #s glad to see your just as lazy as always! kudos

Knock yourself out man, all yours.

Lazy, how's everything working out with those drippers in coco? I'd like to hear your experience as the only time i ever really tried the blumants was when i was using the aeration coco mix. They've been sitting unused for months now..

1) What's in your feed mix? (ph/ppm) ~5.8 pH, ppm runs around 350-450ppm with RO water. I use AN Sensi two part, or Maxibloom as a base in flower. Also add Dyna-gro silica, GH Diamond Nectar, GH Floranectar at 1/2 strength, Drip Clean, DM Zone, and Koolbloom powder starting at week 4.

2) How saturated do you keep the coco? I like it damp, but not sitting in a puddle under the saucers.

3) When do you flush? Flushing with AN Final Phase and Floranectar the last 10-14 days typically.

4) Do you use an airstone in the res? Yes 5 per barrel, and a giant air pump runs 2 barrels each.

5) Do you clean/scrub the res between changes? I take a hose and a rag and wipe them out after each harvest, yes. Then flush it all out the line and refill with plain RO for the next round.


Also, what have you been doing lately for your foilars? Once a month I do a bug spray with Forbid or Floramite, Eagle20, and SM90 mixed with DM Saturator. In between those I do a veg or bloom foliar using DM Folitech and Liquid Karma. I'm told you can use 1/3 strength flowering nutes out of your barrel too.

What do you believe is the best recipe for late veg/early flower, or just the best recipe period? Have you had any success with liquid light or Max-FX/Folitech? I'm trying to get back on top of em' these days..

I've tried LL a few times and haven't really noticed a difference with it, it also takes a ton of it at recommended strength, mostly I cut the dosages in half or even a quarter as I'm putting other things into foliars typically.

Does that joint give to a "Trifecta" of smoke?

LOL sure! It was devastating, we didn't even finish that monster with 4 heads!

 

[sackoweed]

laZy
howzit brother..?? Man nice lil menu of flavas.. ALways rocking it up in here a joy to come by and peep thanx for sharing.. peace n pufs

sacKO

 

[louie]

Whats up Lazy? You are always on point my man! I am wondering about your Floramite application protocol? What do you wear when you apply it? Do you leave the grow room after application for a set amount of time? Do you live in the same place as your plants? Any other details/tips for using it? I'm a little worried about applying it and living in the same place as my plants. I heard it is some pretty SERIOUS stuff.

 

[maxmurder]

whatsup lazy? couple q's

"4) Do you use an airstone in the res? Yes 5 per barrel, and a giant air pump runs 2 barrels each."

is the pumps' intake inside your room or outside? how often do you have to refill? both of these q's are cuz when i used airstones they would raise the temp of the nutes up higher than i like, wondering what you thought.


"Once a month I do a bug spray with Forbid or Floramite, Eagle20, and SM90 mixed with DM Saturator."

so you mix floramite, eagle,dm sat and sm90 alltogether right? how much of each? i've used each of these but never all-together...
thanks lazy

 

[Lazyman]

Yep the pumps are suspended along the ceiling suspended by hooks and their rubber strap handles:


The RO filter is always on, and has a automatic shutoff cartridges if the float valves all close. This never happens though, the only barrel not on Blumats is the veg barrel, we handwater out of that one. The Blumats otherwise drip regularly on about 120 large lowering plants, so the drinking is constant. This allows spikes of nutrients after a topoff to be followed by weaker and weaker nutes until i top off again. Drip to waste means it can't get stronger. But, to answer your question, each barrel goes through about 20 gallons per day, so roughly 100 gallons between the 5. This also keeps water temps down, since cold water trickles into all of them constantly. The barrels are wrapped with Tekfoil mylar/bubble/bubble/poly wrap, and have a 350W titanium water heater in each one. They stay at 67*F constantly. You can run an intake hose to better air pumps, have it pull from outside if you can.

Bug/PM spray doses:
Floramite SC 1.2 ml per gallon
Eagle20 EW 1.0ml/gallon
DM Saturator 30ml/gallon
SM-90 2ml/gallon

pH to 5.5 (per Rezdog) and spray. To be honest I can't find any research data on combining any of these chems, so I can't tell you if it's good or bad. I know the independently, their lifecycle is roughly 3 weeks in the plant, week 4 will often present mites pr PM with these doses. The Saturator helps the mix become more systemic by easing its entry into the plant tissue. SM90 is another good water wetter/sticking agent, and also mites hate the taste of the coriander oil in it, which gives the plant an immediate protection from mites and to some extent thrips, whereas the Floramite SC will take longer to circulate and build up the toxicity that will kill the mites.

I spray everything in the whole room with this mix, hitting walls and floors too. Change to Forbid 4F at the same dose every 3-4 months to avoid breeding Floramite-resistant mites. The last spray is done at week 4 of flower, then flower gets weekly sprays of:

DM Saturator 30ml/g
DM Folitech Bloom 30/ml/g (I use all DM stuff at half strength at most, usually 1/4, it's fairly strong)
plus I just started adding Greencure fungicide to this mix in weeks 4-8 of flower, can't remember the dosage offhand though, it's not a lot. It's potassium bicarbonate so it's pretty benign and won't affect the plant too much.

Some tips:
Try not to spray the buds with any more than a light mist
Hose fan leaves thoroughly with spray
Pay attention to the lower stems and spray under the bottom of the canopy.
Areas where plants touch are highways for bugs. Spray these areas top and bottom if you are unable to move your plants further apart.
(Oh, plants shouldn't really touch if you want them to keep growing.)
Use lukewarm water and always pH your spray
The more things you add, the less of each of them you can use. Don't make the mix too strong, it will burn your plants no matter their age or health.
Spray when lights first come on (only if using Saturator!) so plants have maximum time to dry out before the lights go off and humidity skyrockets.
Otherwise spray right before lights on (if not using Saturator.)
Don't mix ferts and PM/Bug sprays


Whew, off to the basement to prep for tomorrow nights trimming. Pulling down the remainder of last week's crop, 4 dark purple WOWs and 12 purple AK-47's. Soo much frost on these puppies! Amazing colors too. The Blue Dragons, Jackpots and Purple Gorillas from last week are off the racks and curing nicely in tubs, I like to pull out the last 20% of moisture slowly so I can stop it where I want it.

I will take more pics tonight too, hehe. Just notices I have a sum total of 56 pages of pics up in my albums. Holy crap!!!

Night folks!

 

[Lazyman]

Whats up Lazy? You are always on point my man! I am wondering about your Floramite application protocol? What do you wear when you apply it? Do you leave the grow room after application for a set amount of time? Do you live in the same place as your plants? Any other details/tips for using it? I'm a little worried about applying it and living in the same place as my plants. I heard it is some pretty SERIOUS stuff.

Great question, the best answer I can tell you is to look up the MSDS on anything you're spraying here:

http://www.msdsxchange.com/english/xchange_search.cfm

and type in the name of it, it will tell you exactly what caliber respirator/mask you need to wear to protect yourself.

http://ohp.com/ has the labels of must fungicides and pesticides.

Floramite is here: http://www.ohp.com/Labels_MSDS/PDF/floramite_label.pdf

For Floramite SC, that happens to be:

SPECIAL PROTECTION INFORMATION
Engineering Controls: Sufficient ventilation to minimize vapor exposure.
Personal Protection Equipment:
Avoid all personal contact. Observe good personal hygiene.

Chemical resistant gloves, protective clothing and eye
protection should be worn when handling.
Launder clothing before reuse.
In the absence of adequate ventilation, a NIOSH−certified pesticide cartridge respirator should be used.​

Get NIOSH-certified pesticide cartridge respirators here:

http://www.themanstoreonline.com/3M...s-p/3m organic vapor-fslash-p95 resp 5000.htm


Man, I spoil you guys. Anybody think I could write a book on anything useful?

 

[louie]

Appreciate the it my man! Good luck with the harvest. Are you still rockin the trim reaper?

 

[maxmurder]

fuck yeah man! now that's some answers- thanks lazy

 

[catman]

You do spoil us and really should write a book or make a youtube channel or website if you felt comfortable with it. A book would be troublesome because there would be those pesky updates and revisions to do. You could make one hell of a flow chart of how to properly care for a garden, oneself, and one's patients. I've heard it said that things can be fast(easy), quality, and reliant, but only 2 out of the 3 can be had a time. You don't settle for 2 and that sure isn't easy, but working smarter is better than harder. Most literature is about how to get a garden started and going. I think you would do a mighty fine job of teaching how to keep a quality garden going like clockwork or being a manager. I've learned a lot specifics, but I trust what I read because all the pieces are clearly and consistently part of a bigger picture that I would like to model after. Thanks as always for the info and much needed inspiration.