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Lazyman

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i have to say im a bit torn on this, because i believe that some forms of genetic modification could have a positive effect, and to dismiss all GMO as outright evil is a somewhat hysterical response.

that said, most of the best advancements in crop yield in recent years have been down to traditional breeding practices or improved farming methods.
http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ge-fails-to-increase-yields-0219.html



lazyman, can you cite which wheat and rice you are talking about?

afaik strains like the dwarf wheat that made so much difference in africa was again down to traditional breeding practices.

VG

I couldn't find the name of the strain, but here is an article discussing the development of the strain:

From http://www.agbioworld.org/biotech-info/topics/borlaug/visionary.html

The Green Visionary Who Has Banished Famine From The World


The Times (UK)
By Matthew Parris
February 21, 2004
WHOEVER, wrote Jonathan Swift, "could make two ears of corn or two blades of grass grow where only one grew before, would deserve better of mankind than the whole race of politicians put together." I have just met such a man.
Living and working near Mexico City and about to celebrate his ninetieth birthday is someone who in the past century, by personal intervention, saved more lives than anyone else in human history - about a thousand million people.
The green lobby hates his achievements. And you? If you belong to the 99 per cent of our countrymen who have never heard of Dr Norman Borlaug, you are as ignorant as I was about him before I went to Mexico to meet this man and make a television documentary about him for BBC Four.
Our discussions have helped me to make up my mind about biotechnology and GM food. A month ago I would have been alarmed by the leak that shows the British Government is about to give the go-ahead for the use of genetically modified crops. I used to view the intervention of science in agriculture with doubt. Now I see it as a reason for hope.
Dr Borlaug has been a key transitional figure in his field. He has spent his life on the cusp between traditional farming and biotechnology. He has concluded that only by the responsible application of science to agriculture can we save the world from famine. Since he won the Nobel Peace Prize 33 years ago, Dr Borlaug has stood at the centre of one of the greatest and, in its way, the most dramatic success stories in the history of farming.
Borlaug's work saved the Indian sub-continent from mass starvation. In his 90 years on this planet its human population has grown from about one billion to more than six billion. Without the hybrid wheats it was Borlaug's life's mission to develop and promote among the world's poorest farmers, few believe that this population could have been sustained.
It is as simple as that. Yet in the fog of mysticism, pseudo-science and sentimentality that fashion has blown in upon the rich, leisured and fat - that is, us - we forget our own history. Interfering in nature is what has put us where we are today. It is the reason you are reading this, the reason you can read, the reason you have time to read, the reason nine tenths of us are alive.
Let me begin in the single-room school in Iowa where one teacher taught children aged from age 5 to 17, and where Norman Borlaug began an education which took him into university, forestry, then agronomy. He remembers the abuse of monoculture in farming, the dustbowls of the Thirties, the disappearance from the environment of deer and wild turkeys, and the corn in his boyhood, standing As high/ As an elephant's eye. The corn is lower today, he says: more productive hybrids have been developed. Crop yields Aare up; marginal land has been taken out of production; wild areas have been reclaimed for nature; and the deer and wild turkeys are back in force.
When he was a young scientist in the 1940s he was sent by the Rockefeller Foundation to run a project in Mexico. The country's wheat harvests were being devastated by stem rust. As they shuttled between the climates of the highlands and the plains so that they could plant two generations each year and test results in both environments, Borlaug and his colleagues developed a drought-hardy, rust-resistant strain of wheat, then crossed it with a dwarf Japanese strain to produce a hybrid short enough to survivAe the wind and channel growth into grain.
Borlaug did not invent hybridisation. Mankind had started to do that a few thousand years ago when hybrid grasses thrown up by nature were gathered from the wild and developed under unnatural (ie, weeded) conditions in a wheatfield (ie, monoculture) and fertilised artificially (ie, with gathered dung). The dung was collected from genetically modified (ie, domesticated) beasts.
Borlaug built on what was known. He concluded that better hybrids could be produced in a more systematic way, and faster, and promoted among peasant farmers more successfully, than the world had yet realised.
He proved to be not only an effective scientist but also a charismatic salesman. Farming folk are the same the world over, he says: they want to see for themselves results produced on their own soil. Don't tell them, show them; and do it on farms such as theirs.
From total dependence on wheat imports, Mexico had within a few years shifted to being to a net exporter of wheat. Though skilful, Borlaug had also been lucky. Maize is Mexico's principal crop; he had been able to use the wheat sector as a sort of pilot for his approach.
The Indian sub-continent was different. Here there was huge dependence on wheat, and the population was rocketing. When Borlaug began work there in the 1960s massive starvation looked unavoidable. To widespread scepticism, he imported his new seed and began his missionary science.
He knew that fertilising exhausted soil was a key to increasing yields. Dung and compost were insufficient. "Use all the organic materials you can," says Borlaug, "but don't come to Third World nations and tell them they can solve their problems with organic fertiliser alone." He points to the environment wrecking sixfold increase in cattle numbers which would be needed.
His Indian experiment succeeded beyond the wildest hopes. Wheat production quadrupled in a decade; by today that increase is tenfold. The region's population has more than doubled, yet its people are better fed than they have been in more than half a century. For Dr Borlaug the Nobel Peace Prize followed in 1970.
Later, his hybrid wheat reached China. In China population growth is now coming under control. This is one of three observations worth holding on to if you are to follow me to a conclusion which (against the tenor of our times) is optimistic. First, world population is not - contrary to widespread belief - spiralling out of control. Though still our planet's biggest worry, the rate of growth shows signs of reducing. Most projections see a gradual flattening of the increase until a point after the middle ofA this century when the world population may stabilise at about double its present level.
Second, starvation is not an effective form of birth control. In fact, the more secure and well fed people become, the fewer children they have. The harsh but seemingly plausible argument that producing more food is pointless because extra food will be met by more hungry mouths to feed is wrong.
Third, better crop yields do not add to the pressure on rainforests or on wild or marginal land: they reduce it. To hack into hillsides, swamps and woodland is often the resort of agriculturalists who are desperate. Without the extra millions of tons of cereals which work such as that of Borlaug now produces from existing ancient farmlands, hungry populations in Asia would be higher up the mountainsides and deeper into former forests in search of land to till. Intensive farming allows us to limit the land Aunder the plough.
In short, this is a battle mankind can win. Norman Borlaug sees his life's work as part of a holding operation until a time he will not live to see: when population stabilises. He persuaded me that the challenge, though immense, is finite: to feed another six billion people in the half century ahead.
He believes this is possible. His dream, he told me, is that biotechnology will find a way to impart to other cereals the famous hardiness of the rice family. This may achiev able by genetic modification.
Borlaug's work has not been, properly speaking, in GM. He has used "natural" methods (if you are prepared to call a pekingese or boxer dog "natural") of breeding. His genius strikes me as having lain in systematisation, acceleration, evangelism and hunch.
This has not prevented many in the green movement from vilifying what in its day was called Dr Borlaug's "Green Revolution". Greens hate the Green Revolution. Their case (if I can understand it at all) is that "traditional" crops and methods are best; but the term "traditional" defies useful definition, ignoring the damage that traditional low- intensity farming (for instance in Africa) can do to the environment.
Though he was initially sceptical about GM as applied science, Borlaug is now persuaded of its promise. He is wary of the patent-hogging multinationals but he nevertheless believes that by driving GM scientists out of universities and public institutions we are in danger of helping profit-making interests to corner science.
I put it to him that if he really thinks knowledge must triumph, then he should have no fear of the pseudo science of the green lobby. He replied that by distortion and intimidation Lysenko wrecked research right across Russia and set back Soviet science by 30 years.
I had forgotten about the lunatic plant science of the Stalinist Trofim Lysenko. But I recognise in the green lobby Borlaug's warning about distortion and intimidation. How shaming that to sound a warning we must turn for moral authority to a 90-year-old hero of 20th-century science.

Yep you're right, but that's primarily because they lacked the technology to create GM foods 30 years ago.​
 
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elmanito

how many people in this thread stop to ask whether the dirt cheep meat they all demand was fed on GMO soya or alfalfa ?

Stop eating meat a long time ago even organic certified meat.All the regular farm animals like cows, pigs, chickens get GMO shit to eat nowadays, which is far from nutritional value and their life is full of stress thanks to the industrialization of agriculture.A good alternative is hemp seed which doesn't need any pesticides, herbicides etc.

Namaste :plant grow: :canabis:
 

mean mr.mustard

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Those of you still scared of GMO foods, there is a good list on Wikipedia that shows what has been done to each type of crop. Is it so bad to put extra vitamin A into rice?

It is if genetic modification, and not breeding, is the only method available.

Are you so sure it's the best way of improving benefits from crops?

A good alternative is hemp seed which doesn't need any pesticides, herbicides etc.

Until Monsanto has something to say about it.

I'm sure there's all sorts of "improvements" being considered.
 

Lazyman

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Stop eating meat a long time ago even organic certified meat.All the regular farm animals like cows, pigs, chickens get GMO shit to eat nowadays, which is far from nutritional value and their life is full of stress thanks to the industrialization of agriculture.A good alternative is hemp seed which doesn't need any pesticides, herbicides etc.

Namaste



Q: What does it mean to “genetically engineer” something?

DGS: It means to remove genes from one organism—a plant, animal, or microbe—and transfer them to another. Most genes are simply codes, or blueprints, that tell a cell to make a protein.

So far, most genetically engineered food ingredients are made from plants. They’re found in products like corn flakes made using genetically engineered corn, or salad dressing made with oil from genetically engineered soybeans. Gene-altered fish are in the works, while meat and poultry are years off.

Q: Why transfer genes from one plant or animal to another?

DGS: To give it some desirable trait. For example, a gene from a bacterium can enable corn and cotton plants to produce their own pesticide, one that’s harmless to humans and to most insects that don’t damage the crop. That allows farmers to use less—or less harmful—pesticides to get greater yields.

Q: How widespread are genetically engineered crops in the U.S.?

GJ: In 2001, over half of the cotton and soybean crops were genetically engineered. So was a quarter of our corn. Most of our corn and soybean crops are fed to animals, so the meat and poultry we eat is likely to come from animals raised on genetically engineered feed.

Q: Should we be nervous about eating food that contains genes from another organism?

GJ: No. In most cases, we aren’t eating those genes. For instance, by the time a genetically engineered corn plant has been processed into corn oil or high fructose corn syrup, virtually none of the genes—or the proteins they produce—are left in the food.

But even if a food—like the cornmeal used to make many cereals—does contain new genes or proteins, that’s not necessarily a problem. We eat foods with new genes and proteins all the time. The tomatoes, potatoes, and wheat we buy in the supermarket have been genetically altered by breeding them with wild relatives.

That kind of traditional cross-breeding, which we’ve been doing for decades, often produces foods that contain genes and proteins that people have never been exposed to before. And, like it or not, we’re constantly eating the genes and proteins of harmless bacteria that inadvertently end up on our food.

Q: But a gene from an animal would never end up in a corn plant naturally, because the two organisms are too different to breed.

GJ: That’s why we need to make sure that genetically engineered foods are safe before they reach the market. It’s not inherently risky to mix genes from different organisms, but to play it safe, we should carefully test genetically engineered foods to ensure that they are safe.

Is it safe to eat?

Q: What should genetically engineered foods be tested for?

DGS: Whenever you put a new gene into a food, either through traditional breeding or genetic engineering, there are at least two major concerns. One is whether the new genes or proteins might produce toxins—that is, anything that can cause harm in the short or long term. The other concern is whether the new gene might produce a protein that triggers an allergic reaction in a person who eats the food.

Q: Have new allergens ended up in a genetically engineered crop?

GJ: Yes. It happened when scientists unwittingly transferred an allergen from brazil nuts to soybean plants. But a routine test detected the allergen, and the soy was never marketed. That just underscores why it’s so important that the government require companies to test genetically engineered foods for new allergens.

Q: How good is that testing?

DGS: It could be better. Unless we’re dealing with known allergens, like the one in the brazil nut, there’s no way to be absolutely sure if a protein will or won’t trigger an allergic reaction until a lot of people eat it. What the Food and Drug Administration or Environmental Protection Agency should do is require companies to test every newly introduced protein to see if it resembles known food allergens.

That’s what happened with the infamous StarLink corn, which contains a gene taken from a bacterium. The gene produces a protein called Cry9C, which kills a major pest called the corn borer. So it looked promising to farmers. But because Cry9C passes through the digestive tract intact, it also looked like a potential allergen to the EPA, which approved its use only in animal feed. StarLink corn was never meant to be eaten by humans.

Q: So how did it get into taco shells and other foods?

GJ: Aventis, the company that created StarLink corn, didn’t make sure that farmers and grain processors abided by government rules to keep StarLink separate from other strains of corn. As a result, tiny amounts of StarLink ended up in dozens of foods, and at least 44 people reported suffering possible allergic reactions after eating them.

Q: So a genetically engineered food has given us a new allergen?

DGS: We’re not sure. When government scientists tested the blood of some of the people who reported allergic reactions, they couldn’t detect any trace of a reaction to Cry9C. But those tests aren’t 100 percent reliable, so we don’t know if the people reacted to Cry9C or not. In any case, the EPA has since decided that from now on it will only approve genetically engineered crops for animals that are also safe for people to eat. As for StarLink, it’s no longer being grown, so it’s rapidly disappearing from the food supply.

Q: Could genetically engineered foods be toxic?

DGS: Some could. When a gene is transferred from one organism to another, there’s no way to know which chromosome the gene will end up on, where it will settle on that chromosome, or how it might alter—or be altered by—the genes around it. We need to guard against unexpected toxins in genetically engineered plants because we know it’s happened with traditionally bred plants. Again, that’s why these crops should be tested before we eat them.

Q: Are genetically engineered foods less nutritious than conventional foods?

DGS: No. They typically have the same amounts of vitamins, minerals, protein, and other major nutrients as conventional foods. Companies don’t usually test for phytochemicals like lutein or lycopene because they’re not yet considered nutrients. But the FDA should consider changes in key phytochemicals when it decides whether to approve new foods.

Q: If a corn plant were engineered with a gene from a cow, could a vegetarian eat it in good conscience? Or could a steak from a cow that was given a gene from a pig be eaten by an observant Jew or Muslim?

GJ: Any genetic scientist would tell you that a corn plant with a gene from a cow hasn’t been tainted by meat, and a cow with a gene from a pig hasn’t been tainted by the pig. But when you’re talking about religious or ethical beliefs, the science doesn’t always rule. So I’d say that those are decisions that every person has to make for him or herself.

Is it good for consumers?

Q: Will U.S. consumers ever benefit directly from genetically engineered foods?

DGS: They’re already benefitting, at least indirectly, from the reduced use of pesticides. And as the techniques become more sophisticated, scientists may be able to introduce more complex changes that benefit consumers more directly.

For instance, companies are working on developing fruit that can be picked ripe without becoming mushy, coffee that’s naturally caffeine-free, and soybeans that don’t trigger allergic reactions and that contain more healthful omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids.

Foods like those won’t show up in stores for many years. On the other hand, scientists may be close to creating genetically engineered foods that could make a difference in the lives of people in developing countries.

Q: Foods like golden rice?

GJ: Yes. An estimated half-million children in the world go blind every year because their diets don’t contain enough vitamin A. Millions more die from infectious diseases that their immune systems might have been able to fight off with enough vitamin A. By inserting two genes from a daffodil and one from a bacterium into rice plants, scientists have created a rice with beta-carotene, which the body turns into vitamin A.

Golden rice isn’t a miracle food. It still needs to be grown and tested, which could take years, and people used to white rice might not accept its yellow color. And certainly, one food can’t repair the damage caused by malnutrition and poverty. But it could be part of the solution.

Q: Are any genetically engineered crops close to helping developing countries?

DGS: Yes. Trials are under way in Kenya for virus-resistant sweet potatoes that may greatly increase yields. Sweet potatoes are a staple of the Kenyan diet.

In China, more than a million acres are planted in insect-resistant cotton. And scientists are testing insect-resistant potatoes in Egypt. The potatoes may require less chemical pesticides in the field and in storage. That’s critical in countries that can’t afford pesticides or the equipment to protect field workers from pesticides.

Q: What about other types of genetically engineered crops?

DGS: Scientists are working on crops that resist droughts and that can grow in salty, marginal soil. The result could be higher yields, greater productivity, and less destruction of virgin forest.

Eventually, we may even see fruits and vegetables that contain more nutrients or possibly even vaccines. The potential is enormous, but we’ll never realize it unless we make sure that farmers in developing countries have access to cheap—or free—genetically engineered seeds, that the crops don’t harm the local environment, and that the foods are safe.

Q: Isn’t that what worries many critics of biotechnology? The multinational corporations that sell the “miracle” seeds are in business to make money, not feed the world.

DGS: That is a problem. As companies patent genetically engineered seeds, they gain increasing control over the world’s food supply. And mergers concentrate that control in even fewer corporate hands. That could narrow the gene pool of the major food crops, leaving them vulnerable to rare diseases or uncommon insect pests. And it could allow biotechnology companies to exert pressure on food prices worldwide. We need to make sure that doesn’t happen, with seeds for either genetically engineered or conventional crops.

Is it good for the environment?

Q: Are genetically engineered crops good or bad for the environment?

GJ: So far, they’re a plus. Last year, for example, thanks to genetically engineered cotton that produces its own insecticide, farmers reduced their use of highly toxic insecticides by several million pounds. That’s impressive, because the cotton crop has accounted for four out of every ten pounds of insecticides used in the U.S. each year.

And farmers who grow the most popular genetically engineered food crop, Monsanto’s Roundup Ready soybeans, spray their crops less often. So even if that doesn’t reduce the amount of pesticides they apply, as some biotech critics have noted, they’re using a safer one. Roundup is much less toxic than many other herbicides. Farmers can also till the soil less often, which means less water pollution and soil erosion.

Q: What are “Roundup Ready” soybeans?

DGS: They’re soybeans that are immune to glyphosate herbicides like Roundup. So when farmers spray Roundup Ready soybean plants with the herbicide, it kills weeds without harming the plants. The same gene has also been introduced into seed for corn, canola, and cotton.

Q: What other genes are being genetically engineered into crops?

GJ: One of the most popular is Bt, which is extracted from a bacterium called Bacillus thuringiensis. Organic farmers have been spraying Bt bacteria on their crops for years, because it produces a protein that poisons certain insect pests but is harmless to animals, people, and most other insects.

Scientists have transferred the gene that makes the insect-killing protein from Bt bacteria to corn, cotton, and potatoes. So those engineered plants can make their own environment-friendly pesticide, and farmers don’t need to use as much chemical pesticides, which are far more indiscriminate killers.

Q: Is Bt in corn on the cob?


GJ: No. The sweet corn that ends up as corn on the cob or frozen or canned corn isn’t genetically engineered. Nor are the soybeans that go into tofu and soymilk.


Q: Why aren’t they genetically engineered?

DGS: Because farmers are worried that consumers won’t buy them. And that’s unfortunate. In Florida, where much of the country’s sweet corn is grown, the crop is often sprayed with insecticides 10 or 12 times every season. Why? Because farmers know that shoppers won’t buy corn on the cob if it’s been chewed by insects. They could probably cut their spraying down to twice a season if they planted Bt corn. That’s one of the lost benefits of biotechnology.

In addition, genetically engineered crops—like potatoes and sugar beets—could be grown with far less pesticides, soil erosion, and loss of innocent wildlife. But they’re not.

Q: Because companies worry that people won’t buy them?

GJ: That’s right. Food manufacturers fear that some consumers won’t buy foods made with genetically engineered ingredients. Potatoes are a great example. Scientists have genetically engineered some strains to kill insect pests and to resist two destructive viruses. But McDonald’s won’t buy genetically engineered potatoes because it’s afraid that biotech critics will mount a campaign against them.

Read on at http://www.cspinet.org/nah/11_01/
 
... is normal to be apprehensive of the unknown. This technology is a double edged sword.

the question is, "which side is the sharpest?"

Then we come the part where it starts sounding sci-fi: how bout when DNA from one genus is introduced into something else, like putting spider genes into milk animals to spin silk

check it out: www.welcome-moldova.com/articles/silk.shtml
 

Lazyman

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I would ask that if you have an opinion on the matter of GMO crops, please post scientific backing to explain your position. This should be a fact based, not fear based, discussion. please!
 

Lazyman

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Where do you stand on glyphosphate Lazyman?

I'm torn on the issue. Every trick that makes farmers lives easier makes their crops cheaper. Cheaper crops lead to lower food prices, and people poorer than you and I can now afford to eat. If our wheat was more expensive than Russian wheat, our gov't would subsidize the American farmers not to grow it at all. I don't think that is a good solution to the problem. However, I don't have a good solution to suggest as an alternative. If you had one, I imagine we'd all know your name as you would have probably won a Nobel prize yourself.
 

Dr_Tre

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Damn, beat me to it. GMO foods are designed to yield better, require less nutes, harvest sooner, and resist bugs and disease better. Like you dont want the same things out of your weed?

I think you'll find out that GM crops do not actually yield better than carefully organic grown.
What is more important is that you poison your land with the total herbicides Monsanto produces (because you can't grow their strains without it), you can't grow anything besides GMO on this land anymore and you can only buy seeds from Monsanto (because they're pattented, you know).Worst thing is that GM pollen pollinates all the plants around.By now, there is no corn in Mexico that hasn't been polluted with GM genes.
Most of the countries in Europe do not allow GMO.
 

Lazyman

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...and... if we fear the facts?

Like you, I will check the source, their reference material, and see what their peers had to say about their research. The scientific method leaves room for all of this. Fear-mongering will get holes blown in it so fast it will make your head spin.

Some nutjob that's never even been in a lab and gets his info from talking to trees isn't a good resource for information, nor is a company that's trying to sell you something. Find unbiased scientific studies and objectively review their research. Look for holes in their methodology (if you're qualified) and point them out.
 

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Dr. Joseph Mercola said:
Those who believe crops genetically modified to poison specific insects are the solution to agricultural pest control are suffering from a serious case of tunnel vision. As Chinese farmers can now attest, when you wipe out one pest, it simply paves the way for another to flourish.

Bt cotton was engineered with a gene from a soil bacterium, Bacillus thuringiensis. Organic farmers use the natural form of the bacterium as an insecticide, spraying it occasionally during times of high pest infestation.

Monsanto engineers, however, isolated and then altered the gene that produces the Bt-toxin, and inserted it into the DNA of the cotton plant.

Now every cell of their Bt cotton produces a toxic protein that kills certain pests, including the bollworm -- one of the major pests that threatened China’s cotton crops.

Killing Off One Pest Throws Nature Out of Balance

When Bt cotton was first introduced, farmers were able to temporarily cut back on their use of broad-spectrum pesticides, which GM advocates use to support their flawed argument that GM crops are environmentally friendly.

What happened, though, was that as bollworms decreased, mirid bugs, which are not vulnerable to the Bt toxin and were once only a minor pest in the area, increased significantly. Mirids are just as much of a threat to cotton crops as bollworms, so Chinese farmers have upped their pesticide use on the Bt cotton crops to kill the mirid bugs.

So now, not only are farmers planting Bt cotton crops to ward off bollworms, but they are spraying increasing amounts of pesticides to tackle the mirid bugs that only became a problem because of the Bt crops! This is hardly a benefit to the environment.

Further, the mirid bugs are not only a threat to cotton crops, they’re also a threat to green beans, vegetables, fruits and cereal crops as well. Worse still, the evolution of Bt-resistant bollworms worldwide have been confirmed and documented, which means Monsanto’s Bt crops are a miserable failure on all counts.

Despite the fact that Bt cotton has done the area no favors whatsoever, Chinese researchers are looking into developing more GM crops that will kill both bollworms and mirid bugs -- even though it’s fairly obvious that a new pest will soon step up to take their place.

Bt Crops May Also Kill Animals

Along with creating new pest problems, Bt crops may also be toxic, even deadly for animals.

As Jeffrey Smith, the leading spokesperson on the health dangers of genetically modified foods, recently shared, in India animals graze on cotton plants after harvest. But when shepherds let sheep< a href=“http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/03/25/doctors-warn-avoid-genetically-modified-food.aspx”>graze on Bt cotton plants, thousands died.

Investigators said preliminary evidence "strongly suggests that the sheep mortality was due to a toxin. . . .most probably Bt-toxin." In one small study, all sheep fed Bt cotton plants died; those fed natural plants remained healthy.

Jeffrey Smith visited one village in Andhra Pradesh and interviewed the villagers. He reported:

“Buffalo grazed on cotton plants for eight years without incident. But on January 3rd, 2008, 13 buffalo grazed on Bt cotton plants for the first time. All died within three days.

The village also lost 26 goats and sheep.

Buffalo in Haryana, India are fed cottonseed and oil cakes. But those fed the Bt variety, according to veterinarians and farmers, suffered from reproductive disorders, skin problems, and sudden death of both adults and calves.

According to Jeffrey Smith:

“Bt corn is also implicated in the deaths of cows in Germany, and horses, water buffaloes, and chickens in the Philippines.”

More Reasons to be Very Concerned About Bt Crops

So far it’s been revealed that Bt crops are spurring the creation of new pests and Bt-resistant bugs, along with being toxic to animals. What’s left? The crops are also potentially toxic to humans.

The Bt toxin kills pests by splitting open their stomachs. Monsanto claims the crops are safe for humans, however, because organic farmers have used natural Bt sprays as pest control for years. But Jeffrey Smith points out that there’s actually a very big difference:

“GM plants produce about 3,000-5,000 times the amount of toxin as the sprays. A Bt-producing GM plant continuously produces the toxin in every cell where it does not dissipate by weather and cannot be washed off.

The bacterial spray form, on the other hand, is broken down within a few days to two weeks by sunlight, high temperatures, or substances on the leaves of plants, and can be "washed from leaves into the soil by rainfall," or rinsed by consumers.

The natural toxin produced in bacteria is inactive until it gets inside the alkaline digestive tract of an insect. Once inside, a "safety catch" is removed and the Bt becomes toxic.

But scientists change the sequence of the Bt gene before inserting it into GM plants. The Bt toxin it produces usually comes without the safety catch. The plant-produced Bt toxin is always active and more likely to trigger an immune response than the natural variety.”

In India, farm workers who handle Bt crops are already reporting allergy and flu-like symptoms. There’s also concern that the Bt toxin could remain active in your intestines, turning your digestive tract into a virtual pesticide factory. As Smith says:

“The only published human feeding study revealed that even after you stop eating GMOs, harmful GM proteins may be produced continuously inside of you; genes inserted into GM soy transfer into bacteria inside your intestines and continue to function.

If Bt genes also transfer, eating corn chips might transform your intestinal bacteria into a living pesticide factory”

“Superweeds” Now Devastating Farmers

Since 1996, when GM crops were first introduced, at least 10 species of U.S. weeds have developed resistance to glyphosate, the active ingredient in RoundUp herbicide.

In case you’re not familiar with Roundup, Roundup Ready soybean, cotton and corn crops are the world’s largest group of genetically modified crops. This particular variety of GM crops became so popular because it allows farmers to spray Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide directly onto their fields without harming the crops. Ordinarily, if you were to spray Roundup, or any other glyphosate-based herbicide, onto a plant, it would die.

As you might imagine, the use of Roundup herbicide has increased dramatically since the GM Roundup Ready crops were introduced. In the first 13 years, American farmers sprayed an additional 383 million pounds of herbicide due to these herbicide-tolerant crops. And now the repeated exposures have given Mother Nature all she needs to stage her comeback in the form of devastating superweeds.

As a result, farmers are being forced to spray their crops with even more toxic herbicides, along with return to labor-intensive methods like pulling weeds by hand. According to the New York Times:

“Farm experts say that such efforts could lead to higher food prices, lower crop yields, rising farm costs and more pollution of land and water.

It is the single largest threat to production agriculture that we have ever seen,” said Andrew Wargo III, the president of the Arkansas Association of Conservation Districts.”

^^^
This guy talks to trees.
 

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haha and Monsanto is the same corporation that is purchasing a mega warehouse in colorado to grow weed in....LEGALIZATION WOOOOOHOOO!!
 

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I couldn't find the name of the strain, but here is an article discussing the development of the strain:

From http://www.agbioworld.org/biotech-info/topics/borlaug/visionary.html

The Green Visionary Who Has Banished Famine From The World


The Times (UK)
By Matthew Parris
February 21, 2004
WHOEVER, wrote Jonathan Swift, "could make two ears of corn or two blades of grass grow where only one grew before, would deserve better of mankind than the whole race of politicians put together." I have just met such a man.
Living and working near Mexico City and about to celebrate his ninetieth birthday is someone who in the past century, by personal intervention, saved more lives than anyone else in human history - about a thousand million people.
The green lobby hates his achievements. And you? If you belong to the 99 per cent of our countrymen who have never heard of Dr Norman Borlaug, you are as ignorant as I was about him before I went to Mexico to meet this man and make a television documentary about him for BBC Four.
Our discussions have helped me to make up my mind about biotechnology and GM food. A month ago I would have been alarmed by the leak that shows the British Government is about to give the go-ahead for the use of genetically modified crops. I used to view the intervention of science in agriculture with doubt. Now I see it as a reason for hope.
Dr Borlaug has been a key transitional figure in his field. He has spent his life on the cusp between traditional farming and biotechnology. He has concluded that only by the responsible application of science to agriculture can we save the world from famine. Since he won the Nobel Peace Prize 33 years ago, Dr Borlaug has stood at the centre of one of the greatest and, in its way, the most dramatic success stories in the history of farming.
Borlaug's work saved the Indian sub-continent from mass starvation. In his 90 years on this planet its human population has grown from about one billion to more than six billion. Without the hybrid wheats it was Borlaug's life's mission to develop and promote among the world's poorest farmers, few believe that this population could have been sustained.
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yeah i thought you were talking about borlaug again. his work on wheat was nothing to do with GMO - that was good old fashioned plant breeding that saved the billions of lives
 

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watch out for Monsanto's genetically engineered cannabis, it lacks the euphoria. Only horror and paranoia.
 

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Andrew Wargo? Or Dr. Joseph Mercola? I'll take the educated PHd over the fear-mongering hippy every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Whatever it takes to open your eyes.

I am a fear-mongering hippie too...

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Perhaps in time I'll learn how to be destructively apathetic... or maybe just zealously xenophobic.
 
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