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First Grow, AK-48, 5-gallon DWC, 400W

Schleep

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looks like she might be a tad overfed or possible ph swings??

the burnt leaf tips are a dead give away

when was the last time you changed your rez??
and secondly when was the last time you CLEANED the bucket??

Could be over feeding I guess. I change the rez ever Thursday morning, same time. I also clean out the bucket completely each time I change the rez, and pop it in the dishwasher every two weeks, so that bitch is definitely clean. She's also really close to the light at this point, but we're maxed out on height and she's not getting any taller, so I just try to position her so the light is kinda "beside" the tip top. But the airflow is good and it's definitely not hot up there so I may just be feeding her too much.
 

Schleep

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Day 54 of 12/12. I'm having a pretty hard time telling the difference between clear and cloudy trichomes, but I don't think I'm seeing any amber yet. What do you guys think?

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Based on what I can see in those photos, I changed out the res one final time and began the flush with adjusted tap water. Nirvana's website says 7-9 weeks of flowering, and I'm almost to week 8 now, I'm just hoping I flushed with enough time left.
 

vince514

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looks good schleep....i can see a bunch of clear trichs but id say 60% clowdy with a random amber trich here and there.......well even if its a 9 week strain and you go past the 9 week mark it woulden't harm the plant it would benefit the more couchlock affect ...id say flush her out and let her go..........hey schleep what she smell like , the odor's must be changing??
 
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Dunno if anyone mentioned this but u said ur using distilled water, meaning u need to add more cal-mag? The deficency looks like calcium to me, and also slight nuteburn
 

Schleep

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looks good schleep....i can see a bunch of clear trichs but id say 60% clowdy with a random amber trich here and there.......well even if its a 9 week strain and you go past the 9 week mark it woulden't harm the plant it would benefit the more couchlock affect ...id say flush her out and let her go..........hey schleep what she smell like , the odor's must be changing??

The odor hasn't actually been too apparent because of the 30 oz of Ona gel that's in the cabinet with the plant. But I'm sure once I chop her down she'll stink up the room pretty bad :)

Dunno if anyone mentioned this but u said ur using distilled water, meaning u need to add more cal-mag? The deficency looks like calcium to me, and also slight nuteburn

I actually switched over from distilled to tap after the first few weeks so hopefully that's not it.
 

goldenahms

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If you get closer you will see the clear trichs look like raIn drops, while the cloudy trichs look very milky.

I let my AK48 go 58 days while the cherry pheno 63.

Sorry, had tO edit because this damn iPhone is a headache sometimes.
 

Schleep

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If you get closer you will see the clear trichs look like raIn drops, while the cloudy trichs look very milky.

I let my AK48 go 58 days while the cherry pheno 63.

Sorry, had tO edit because this damn iPhone is a headache sometimes.

Did you wait until you saw any amber trichs? Most of the trichomes looks "milky" to my naked eye, but I still can't see any amber :( This Saturday will be 58 days since the switch from 12/12 (is that how you were counting?) so we'll see how she looks then.
 

goldenahms

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Yes, I waited until I saw a few amber trichs. Mostly milky though. To me, it was ready when I saw all milky, some amber, and some clear.

I actually don't start counting until I see the onset of buds, because when you switch to 12/12 it doesn't flower immediately. Some take a few days, some 10+ days. So I start counting when you start seeing white hairs shoot, not just the preflowers.

For example, I flipped my Blue Satellite on 1/9 and they started budding on 1/12, so that's when I start counting. My Double Gum was flipped on 1/9, but didn't start flowering until 1/16.

If you're seeing lots of milky, you're on your way. If you want to avoid a couch lock high, pick it before they go mostly amber. Cheers, Schleep
 
Hello,i want to ask you somethig about your grow.How many weeks were your vegitation period.Which week from vegitation put the screen and how many inches from the pot. How big was the plant in centimeters when you put the screen.When you turn at flowering period?Please tell me evrything important that I need to know about the scrog.
 

Schleep

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Yes, I waited until I saw a few amber trichs. Mostly milky though. To me, it was ready when I saw all milky, some amber, and some clear.

I actually don't start counting until I see the onset of buds, because when you switch to 12/12 it doesn't flower immediately. Some take a few days, some 10+ days. So I start counting when you start seeing white hairs shoot, not just the preflowers.

For example, I flipped my Blue Satellite on 1/9 and they started budding on 1/12, so that's when I start counting. My Double Gum was flipped on 1/9, but didn't start flowering until 1/16.

If you're seeing lots of milky, you're on your way. If you want to avoid a couch lock high, pick it before they go mostly amber. Cheers, Schleep

Ok well I didn't notice when the white hairs shot out, so I'll probably have to let mine go a few days further since I didn't account for those 3-10 days of "limbo" time where it wasn't vegging or flowering.

brother...
that baseball bat bud is insane
hope you got some clones

I haven't actually taken any clones yet, but can't I do that right before I cut her down? Just take a few branches from the bottom?

Hello,i want to ask you somethig about your grow.How many weeks were your vegitation period.Which week from vegitation put the screen and how many inches from the pot. How big was the plant in centimeters when you put the screen.When you turn at flowering period?Please tell me evrything important that I need to know about the scrog.

I didn't actually SCROG this plant because I didn't have enough space in my cabinet. I should have LST it but I let it grow pretty much unrestricted this time. I think most people let their plant get to be about 12"-15" before containing it to a SCROG net.
 

Schleep

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Well I'm sad to say that I have a double dose of bad news to report.

1. Based on the way the trichomes looked, I started to chop her down on February 4, 64 days after switching to 12/12. After cutting down about 1/2 of the plant, mostly the middle portion and the lower portion of the cola, I realized that the buds which grew tightly together and touched one another (ie. the cola) were completely underdeveloped on the "inside". The trichomes and leaves on the outer portion looked fine, but once I'd cut a branch and start looking at the inner part of the cola, I could see that the plant was not mature enough to be harvested yet. Almost all clear trichomes (much smaller too) and the leaves were bright green rather than a dark shade. So I stopped cutting and just hung up what I'd cut to dry. I left the main cola and the leafty buds at the bottom to continue maturing.

2. Well I went back today (67 days after switching to 12/12) to finish the job. The apartment smells exactly like a marijuana plant and I couldn't reasonably wait any longer without going out and buying more Ona Gel or building a carbon scrubber. So I continued chopping and then I see that the same area, the "inner" portion of the cola, has small portions of mold growing throughout the bud. This is very bad. It's small pockets of stringy, white, web-like material. Again, this was not visible AT ALL without cutting down the plant and peeling the branches apart.

WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO? Not all the bud has mold and the mold isn't widespread. It really just effected the middle portion of the main cola, but after reading stories online, I'm pretty scared about smoking mold.

All the bud is now chopped and hanging in the shed, but is there any way to save this THC? I was planning on doing an ISO Hash wash with the trim, but would this also be good to do with the moldy bud?

Overall, I'm pretty disappointed. Everything went PERFECTLY up until the time when it counted. I know it's my first grow, and I can't expect my best weed to be grown on the first try, but I'm pretty saddened by the fact that after all this time and energy, a little bit of mold, which most likely developed in the past few days, has essentially ruined my efforts. Oh well ): Guess all these grows can't be perfect, huh?
 

bendoslendo

Member
Sorry to hear about the mold dude, that's a tough break. I would separate and smoke anything without the mold, make iso or bho with the moldy stuff.

Don't be discouraged though! Watching this thread from the beginning, I'd say you did an excellent job. Your obviously well on your way to being a fine cannabis grower. Next time keep in mind a ripe cannabis plant is a dieing one, and it's natural defenses to pathogens are quite compromised at the end.

Some tips to prevent this next time:
Remove some of the foliage to provide better airflow
Top or scrog to produce more, smaller colas that will be less prone to getting mold
Use a Dehuey to keep the RH<50% for the last 3-4 weeks of your grow.

Are you digging the smoke?
 

danks

Member
ok ill help you. listen up and dont go around doing shit everyone says. 1) add h2o2 to res at 1ml per liter of 30 /35 percent h2o2. when shes tiny use half strength till she gets about a foot tall 2)cal mag use as directed on the back of the bottle from start to finish 3) dont go over 1.2ec like heath says they dont need anymore nutrients then that. 4)vitamax from grotex its a b1 anti stress formula. the h202 wil also help oxygentate the water when res temps are up thus keeping shit looking minty. h202 also helps with mold and as a disinfectant.
people will say but u have a air pump its making bubbles well fuck them they are fucking stupid and arent pulling off 1.5gpw
 

danks

Member
for your bud rot get dehumidifier to keep relative humidity to 50 last 2 weeks of flowering the rest of the time it can be in the 60s or 70s. there u go next time youll get a pound plant. and dont use anything else no hygrozyme no root excel no bullshit no drama
 

danks

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o ya for h202 you must let the water sit for 15 mins before adding nutes or putting in the plant also h202 de chrolinefies the water the shit is awesome . use gloves casue it will give u burn on skin and use eye protection. when it touches you the skin goes white and burns a bit no biggie
 

danks

Member
o ya next time u wana know when to chop put up pics and let the veterans tell you when its done patience meang
 

Schleep

Member
Thanks for all the advice guys. The final harvest didn't turn out quite as bad as I had anticipated. I ended up with about 100 grams of smokeable bud. The high can be described as cerebral and heady, and there is almost no evidence of a couchlock, stoney high. This is due to the early harvest. Make no mistake though, the weed will get you high. Compared to the stuff I normally get, the AK-48 is better. I can only assume my next plant will be even better.

After trimming the buds, I decided to use the trim and the moldy weed to make a big batch of cannaoil. I ended up with about 2 quarts of weed-infused-canola oil and have already made a successful batch of brownies with it.

So overall, the grow was a major success. I have more than enough weed to last me to next harvest (main goal) and I have learned a TON of first hand information that will make things 100% easier next time. :)

This stuff is really jammed in there, I've since put it all in Mason jars and it's about 5 jars worth.
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