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Obama To Answer Online Questions: Will Marijuana Legalization Be Top Question Again ?

Obama To Answer Online Questions: Will Marijuana Legalization Be Top Question Again ?

  • yes

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • no

    Votes: 6 85.7%

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David762

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A 5 year freeze on (new) spending makes no sense.

A 5 year freeze on (new) spending makes no sense.

Thanks bro. Heck no, I expected exactly what he said. Of course we kinda knew what he would say since he let it out before hand as far as the 5 year freeze.. Great idea, a five year freeze at, as the president himself said, "unsustainable spending levels". Sounds like someone is TRYING to crash the dollar.
:rasta:


ps- dagnabit, you right bro the thread took a twist,, well the thread is in the wrong place at the wrong time. It is what it is. peace bro.

A 5 year freeze on (new) spending makes no sense. The Department of Defense has promised a $90 Billion USD cut (a pittance) in new spending ... beginning in 2015. In the mean time, they will continue to spend (more) money like a drunken sailor on shore leave in a foreign port. I guess that squeezing the economic balloon in favor of the DoD means that Social Security, Medicare, and jobs programs will be taking the economic hit. Any promises of protecting SS will readily be broken after Obama's re-election in 2012. This movie is a tired old repeat.

But Obama could surprise all the Washington pundits with a new green jobs program that would save rather than cost the Feds more money, as well as create a huge new revenue stream -- just by legalizing (legal like beer) cannabis & hemp. Does anyone here really not think that legalization of cannabis would be a self-financed jobs & revenue program? Of course, that will not happen. The Obama regime is owned by the TBTF | TBTJ Banksters and Wall Street Mobsters who would not like the Feds interfering with their drug cartel money laundering schemes worth $100's of Billions per year.
 

DocLeaf

procreationist
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1) you can,, but chances are they wont listen!

2) The war on 'drugs' is something they created,, it's as 'economical',, as it 'cultural'

3) Legalization isn't possible! (please do some research NORMAL)! This is why we promote 'decriminalization'!

4) Becuase it generates more income

5) That's just a stupid question!

6) No. It's impossible (see 3)

7) Hemp is Cannabis ! Please stop calling it "Hemp". Are you trapped in the 18th Century?

8) They do in some States,, not all because the policy was NOT actually thought out logically before implementation!

9) It worked so far... if anything it was a success just waiting to happen!

10) Sanity balances a fine line with the insane


NORMAL NEED TO RE-THINK THEIR QUESTIONS!! SURELY THEY ARE SMARTER THAN THIS!
Those question look like they were texted by a 15 year old! no offense. get real and up to date!
peace out
 

vta

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NORMAL NEED TO RE-THINK THEIR QUESTIONS!! SURELY THEY ARE SMARTER THAN THIS!
Those question look like they were texted by a 15 year old! no offense. get real and up to date!
peace out

Those are not questions from Norml. At the time that was made...those were the top ten questions from the public

**Edit...I do think Norml does need a face lift. 40 years later...you would think they would of done more by now.
 

BiG H3rB Tr3E

"No problem can be solved from the same level of c
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Honestly, I'm not expecting him to dignify us with a mj response, he's got 2 years until hid chance for a 2nd term and acknowledging anything pro-mj is just going to give him a bigger obstacle to overcome when he campaigns for re-election. The best we can do is keep the mj debate going well into the next term and if we are successful with doing so and Obama gets re-elected I think we will have the ally we always hoped for in Barack. So even if we do get snubbed again, think of the larger scheme of things and don't let it dissuade you into believing Obama is a traitor. We all know he is for mj rather he can admit it or not.

Remember this is chess, not checkers.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
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I agree with BHT... Massive changes in US drug enforcement policies sound like second term activities.

But it'd be nice if he said something encouraging like, "Clearly, the american people have spoken and clearly many of you would like to see an honest debate about the subject."
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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Municipalities are going bankrupt and some legislators are starting to warn that states will have to declare bankruptcy too, (states can't run deficits.)

These states are going to determine which crimes to go after. Financially weak states might still choose to go after large ops with high dividends but they'll feel the pain from locking up Joe smoker.
 
S

Smoke Buddy

Wow. So, he really is pro-legalization, but he has to pretend he's not so he can get re-elected? If he was smart enough to be like Bill Clinton and change his policies after the first midterm trouncing, he could have it all. But after that incredibly out of touch SOTU speech, I am sure he will not move to the center enough to be a second termer. If he got smart and started changing his overall failed policies, he could push to,legalize now and still be re-elected. Unfortunately his pro government, anti business policies keep getting in the way of his popularity.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Wow. So, he really is pro-legalization, but he has to pretend he's not so he can get re-elected? If he was smart enough to be like Bill Clinton and change his policies after the first midterm trouncing, he could have it all.

Clinton compromised. This means he didn't have it all. He gave away the store (political center.) Clinton even signed the repeal of Glass Stegall, steroids for our financial bubbles.

Obama attempts compromise as well but he's trying to keep the right from pulling the country past the current center. If you watched the address, you saw the president declare hands off SS and Medicare.

But after that incredibly out of touch SOTU speech, I am sure he will not move to the center enough to be a second termer.
Sorry to tell you but O has polled as high as 92% approval for the SOTU address. I'm not saying you should approve, I'm saying your outside the main stream. You should have checked out Maddow tonight. She replayed some Eisenhower (R) clips that showed he was far left of today's Democratic party, advocating soaking the rich (as high as 91%) to maintain a balanced budget and strong economy. Eisenhower couldn't build a national interstate highway system today, the right wouldn't allow it.

If he got smart and started changing his overall failed policies, he could push to,legalize now and still be re-elected. Unfortunately his pro government, anti business policies keep getting in the way of his popularity.
Lol. That's the funniest expectation I've read. Change direction and ignore 69 million voters so marijuana repeal can win reelection. I wouldn't hold your breath on that particular scenario.

Anti business? Two thirds of the businesses in the country pay no federal tax. The accountants and lawyers of the tax lobbies that write the complicated tax code exempts them from taxes too. Who pays? The other third of business, some of them pay the highest rates in the world. (You can thank the Chamber of Commerce for that.) But you can't blame the current president for policy that's more than three decades in the making. If O was more "pro" business, he'd be taking your tax money and giving it to GE (who, BTW paid no federal taxes last year.)
 
S

Smoke Buddy

Hey Disco whatup.. Yeah I was sorta being funny with the joke about Obama moving to the center or being smart like Clinton. Obviously this pres is a dedicated leftist.
The federal tax rate for business is at 35%. Thats a much higher rate than the countrys we are competing with. Its a problem. Its part of the reason companies move overseas. Taxes and wages,,,, and our silly trade laws that favor our competitors. In fact this tax rate precludes the presidents own words that we need to compete and win. We cant compete if we tie our hands behind our back. I totally support closing tax loopholes that allow businesses to not pay their share.
I doubt the president got 90+ percent approval from what Ive seen today he ignited a firestorm by ignoring the 800 pound gorrilla in the room. I mean, what was the frirst thing he led with to get us out of this financial disaster? It was education. Are you fing kidding me? When in 10 years? Then it was green economy.. IT DOESNT EXIST! I happen to have been a semiconductor salesman for many years calling on all kinds of accounts in California. Southern and Northern. This is the channel for a good portion of what might be called green, the tech sector. The electronic component channel is very slow right now. New companies are non existant compared with a few years ago and established ones are leaving the state or downsizing... in large part because of government centered legislation in the guise of helping the people. What we DO have is a shitoad of beaurocrats who built their own kingdoms and will never let go once they are in like a frikin tick. Now they are running like scared rabbits because the new guv budget is going to NECESSARILY destroy many of their jobs... meanwhile the feds make the same mistake on a national level. Sadly, when the Sacramento pink slips come soon, and many get laid off they will have to join the other 2.5 million Californians that are unemployed, many chronicly. This will just make it that much harder for the ones already in a disaster mode. Big Government is going to do to the USA what it has already done to California. I can tell you the technology cannot make up for the 20 million barrels of oil we use a day anytime soon. Aint happenin. Its a silly pipedream to think its on deck. Problem is we have an emergency. The total wind and solar nut right now is less that 1% of our energy source. WOOD is 2%.. my freaking god. Get the picture? We could have been building nuclear years ago but the environmentalist left wouldn't have it. So what the hell are we supposed to do? You think we are going to put 36 million people back to work in an industry that is miniscule?
The answer, of course, is to stimulate the broader economy. Thats NOT what the stimulus did. It really did help government and fire and schools and the unions but thats it. There were no shovel ready projects. So, we need to realize what made america strong and provides a good living for its people is free enterprise, not governmemt. Growing government is a very very bad idea.

peace :rasta:
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Hey Disco whatup.. Yeah I was sorta being funny with the joke about Obama moving to the center or being smart like Clinton. Obviously this pres is a dedicated leftist.
The federal tax rate for business is at 35%. Thats a much higher rate than the countrys we are competing with. Its a problem. Its part of the reason companies move overseas. Taxes and wages,,,, and our silly trade laws that favor our competitors. In fact this tax rate precludes the presidents own words that we need to compete and win. We cant compete if we tie our hands behind our back. I totally support closing tax loopholes that allow businesses to not pay their share.

Hey, Smoke Buddy. IMO, Obama's a wiser centrist than BC, at least so far. The tax rate on business is as high as it is because only a third of business owners pay federal tax. If every business payed their rate, the 35% bracket might not be as high. If it remained 35%, we'd balance budgets and pay off some of our debt if everybody dropped.

Companies move overseas because they can. They asked for lower taxes and got lower taxes. They asked for laws that made them more competitive in the global market, (lawyers for business lobbies wrote the bills and before we knew it, Congress passed business' right to move our manufacturing and service jobs overseas.)

It ain't got a thing with taxes being too high. You try to live on what [once] American companies pay Asians. You're listening to somebody that wants more Republicans to give away more to the top than we've already given for more than three decades.

There's a limit to breaks for the rich, just like their was for welfare queens in the 70s. IMO, we've done a 180 and the rich have too much stacked on their plates. But the crumbs they promised are horded in tax-free, offshore accounts.

I doubt the president got 90+ percent approval from what Ive seen today he ignited a firestorm by ignoring the 800 pound gorrilla in the room. I mean, what was the frirst thing he led with to get us out of this financial disaster? It was education. Are you fing kidding me? When in 10 years?
Yep, we need to educate our kids and grand kids. Otherwise we'll see our degreed and high skilled jobs move away. You're still welcome to home school or pay someone a profit to educate your children if you wish.

Then it was green economy.. IT DOESNT EXIST! I happen to have been a semiconductor salesman for many years calling on all kinds of accounts in California. Southern and Northern. This is the channel for a good portion of what might be called green, the tech sector. The electronic component channel is very slow right now. New companies are non existant compared with a few years ago and established ones are leaving the state or downsizing... in large part because of government centered legislation in the guise of helping the people. What we DO have is a shitoad of beaurocrats who built their own kingdoms and will never let go once they are in like a frikin tick. Now they are running like scared rabbits because the new guv budget is going to NECESSARILY destroy many of their jobs... meanwhile the feds make the same mistake on a national level. Sadly, when the Sacramento pink slips come soon, and many get laid off they will have to join the other 2.5 million Californians that are unemployed, many chronicly. This will just make it that much harder for the ones already in a disaster mode. Big Government is going to do to the USA what it has already done to California. I can tell you the technology cannot make up for the 20 million barrels of oil we use a day anytime soon. Aint happenin. Its a silly pipedream to think its on deck. Problem is we have an emergency. The total wind and solar nut right now is less that 1% of our energy source. WOOD is 2%.. my freaking god. Get the picture? We could have been building nuclear years ago but the environmentalist left wouldn't have it. So what the hell are we supposed to do? You think we are going to put 36 million people back to work in an industry that is miniscule?
The answer, of course, is to stimulate the broader economy. Thats NOT what the stimulus did. It really did help government and fire and schools and the unions but thats it. There were no shovel ready projects. So, we need to realize what made america strong and provides a good living for its people is free enterprise, not governmemt. Growing government is a very very bad idea.

peace :rasta:
All right first of all we've had the worst economy since the depression. The only reason [no jobs] business is flying high is because we bailed em out (Bush) and they're holding onto profits instead of investing in domestic interests. Stimulus was supposed to generate ready projects for labor. Many of these so-called ready projects weren't ready and didn't qualify for government funding. A large chunk of the stimulus remains unspent and awaits approval to fund qualified infrastructure projects.

It wasn't the fed's problem that municipalities and states saw dollars and grabbed for funding yet didn't have plans on their boards. The money can't be flung at unauthorized requests, guidelines have to be met and there will surely be corruption wherever troughs are laid.

When you get right down to it, government can't give business any more than we've already given. If you're old enough to have lived in the 1960s you may be old enough to remember 91% tax rates. That's when business employed Americans and wages as well as living standards were higher than today, adjusted for inflation. There are more millionaires and billionaires today but there are far more poor people than thirty years ago. Some of our former middle class families have fell below the poverty level through no fault of their own. Many fell to catastrophic illness, medical coverage dropped and they lost their homes. Others lost homes when the housing boom spawned predatory lenders and bubble payments that were designed to pop. And the opposition wants more of the same.

Unions might have been indirectly aided because the UAW is one of the few remaining unions in the US. We bailed out GM and Chrysler but those loans have been or are being paid back with interest. It's been estimated that as many as one or two million jobs were saved as a result of bailing out big auto.

The stimulus was never intended to save the economy. It took Roosevelt more than a decade to get us out of the depression and the absence of a world war may have taken longer.

We've built national interstate highways, mammoth hydro electric projects and we even built every aspect of infrastructure we enjoy today. Too bad it's crumbling as we speak. Who knows? Maybe business will get off their ass and out of their stock dividends and want to build something for a change.

We could have gone green thirty years ago. You're either a romantic, ride a Harley or you hate the idea of mass transit and or alternative fueled cars.
 

SmilinBob

Member
It says new topics and new votes are no longer being accepted.

When you try to vote on the Cannabis questions it does nothing, but if you vote on another subject it bumps it up. If you don't believe me then please don't vote on the top question in other subject.
 

Anti

Sorcerer's Apprentice
Veteran
Well. They're no longer accepting any questions and nobody can vote anymore. In five more hours we'll see what's what.

LEAP is the #1 question and it has a video of a middle-aged white police officer asking obama in a calm, clear voice why we are continuing a failed policy.

If any of the MJ questions have a chance of making it through, it should be that one.

I won't be holding my breath, however.
 
S

Smoke Buddy

Hey, Smoke Buddy. IMO, Obama's a wiser centrist than BC, at least so far. The tax rate on business is as high as it is because only a third of business owners pay federal tax. If every business payed their rate, the 35% bracket might not be as high. If it remained 35%, we'd balance budgets and pay off some of our debt if everybody dropped.

Companies move overseas because they can. They asked for lower taxes and got lower taxes. They asked for laws that made them more competitive in the global market, (lawyers for business lobbies wrote the bills and before we knew it, Congress passed business' right to move our manufacturing and service jobs overseas.)

It ain't got a thing with taxes being too high. You try to live on what [once] American companies pay Asians. You're listening to somebody that wants more Republicans to give away more to the top than we've already given for more than three decades.

There's a limit to breaks for the rich, just like their was for welfare queens in the 70s. IMO, we've done a 180 and the rich have too much stacked on their plates. But the crumbs they promised are horded in tax-free, offshore accounts.

Yep, we need to educate our kids and grand kids. Otherwise we'll see our degreed and high skilled jobs move away. You're still welcome to home school or pay someone a profit to educate your children if you wish.

All right first of all we've had the worst economy since the depression. The only reason [no jobs] business is flying high is because we bailed em out (Bush) and they're holding onto profits instead of investing in domestic interests. Stimulus was supposed to generate ready projects for labor. Many of these so-called ready projects weren't ready and didn't qualify for government funding. A large chunk of the stimulus remains unspent and awaits approval to fund qualified infrastructure projects.

It wasn't the fed's problem that municipalities and states saw dollars and grabbed for funding yet didn't have plans on their boards. The money can't be flung at unauthorized requests, guidelines have to be met and there will surely be corruption wherever troughs are laid.

When you get right down to it, government can't give business any more than we've already given. If you're old enough to have lived in the 1960s you may be old enough to remember 91% tax rates. That's when business employed Americans and wages as well as living standards were higher than today, adjusted for inflation. There are more millionaires and billionaires today but there are far more poor people than thirty years ago. Some of our former middle class families have fell below the poverty level through no fault of their own. Many fell to catastrophic illness, medical coverage dropped and they lost their homes. Others lost homes when the housing boom spawned predatory lenders and bubble payments that were designed to pop. And the opposition wants more of the same.

Unions might have been indirectly aided because the UAW is one of the few remaining unions in the US. We bailed out GM and Chrysler but those loans have been or are being paid back with interest. It's been estimated that as many as one or two million jobs were saved as a result of bailing out big auto.

The stimulus was never intended to save the economy. It took Roosevelt more than a decade to get us out of the depression and the absence of a world war may have taken longer.

We've built national interstate highways, mammoth hydro electric projects and we even built every aspect of infrastructure we enjoy today. Too bad it's crumbling as we speak. Who knows? Maybe business will get off their ass and out of their stock dividends and want to build something for a change.

We could have gone green thirty years ago. You're either a romantic, ride a Harley or you hate the idea of mass transit and or alternative fueled cars.

Hey Thanks for keeping it civil bro. I think we actually have a bit of common ground, but also I see this alot different than you do.
No problem.

On subject, it will be interesting to see if he mocks us as cannabis users again...

peace :rasta:
 

KnowBudz

Active member
Yeah, the "discussion" illustrated by that quote sounds strangely like the tripe spread via the MSM and the WH. <yawn>
 
T

theJointedOne

they are all puppets, being made to say this or that , whatever puppet master wants.

nothing is gonna happen
youtube fuck you too, wheres your dignity, make this man address the people you work for
 

Sgt.Stedenko

Crotchety Cabaholic
Veteran
No more questions.
And I wanted to know when he was going to do the honorable thing and take some cyanide pills like Hitler did when he knew his time was up.
Everything this joker touches turns to shit.
Did you hear our Dear Leader wants to send another 70,000 troops to Afghanistan? This after telling AQ and the Taliban that were out of there in 2012.
Where is all the outcry from the hippie red diaper doper babies that were out protesting war when GWB was president?
I refuse to watch the news anymore because of the liberal news media still fawning over this idiot who wants us to "invent and build stuff". Take away the TOTUS, and he's a bumbling shit-stain in the diaper of America with no executive experience, no leadership ability, and no idea how to get the economy moving again.
It took WWII to get FDR out of the Depression because his socailistic programs were not cutting it then, just as Obummer's programs will do nothing today.
Housing prices have declined for the 27th straight month (thanks Obummer). Unemployment is still nationaly over 9% and regionally upwards of 12% (thanks Obummer)
You think it sucks now. Just wait until the States like IL, CA, NY and others start defaulting on their debt and we see the bond market tank. Then wait for the bail out of Fanny and Freddie which will make TARP look like a cold baloney sandwich. The dems keep sweeping Fannie, Freddie and the national debt under the carpet hoping it wont expode in their face. As long as it goes sub-critical while they're not in charge, they can wave their blood stained hands and cry, "Look, it wasn't us".

Hypocracy is the greatest luxury.
 

zenoonez

Active member
Veteran
No more questions.
And I wanted to know when he was going to do the honorable thing and take some cyanide pills like Hitler did when he knew his time was up.

All I can do is lol at this. If you think this is what he should do you we truly have no common ground upon which to discuss anything civilly.

Everything this joker touches turns to shit.
Did you hear our Dear Leader wants to send another 70,000 troops to Afghanistan? This after telling AQ and the Taliban that were out of there in 2012.
Where is all the outcry from the hippie red diaper doper babies that were out protesting war when GWB was president?

We are here, standing behind a just war, a war against the enemy that actually attacked us and not an enemy our leader's father didn't finish the first time.

I refuse to watch the news anymore because of the liberal news media still fawning over this idiot who wants us to "invent and build stuff". Take away the TOTUS, and he's a bumbling shit-stain in the diaper of America with no executive experience, no leadership ability, and no idea how to get the economy moving again.

We are in a great depression caused by conservative laissez faire attitudes toward regulation in the banking industry... There is no magic bullet to this, we have a long hard road to hoe to get out of this. If you think anyone has a magic bullet you are delusional.

It took WWII to get FDR out of the Depression because his socailistic programs were not cutting it then, just as Obummer's programs will do nothing today.

No doubt, the idea that stimulus alone will be able to get a country out of depression is laughable but we can't sit by and do nothing when we can do something.

Housing prices have declined for the 27th straight month (thanks Obummer). Unemployment is still nationaly over 9% and regionally upwards of 12% (thanks Obummer)
You think it sucks now. Just wait until the States like IL, CA, NY and others start defaulting on their debt and we see the bond market tank. Then wait for the bail out of Fanny and Freddie which will make TARP look like a cold baloney sandwich. The dems keep sweeping Fannie, Freddie and the national debt under the carpet hoping it wont expode in their face. As long as it goes sub-critical while they're not in charge, they can wave their blood stained hands and cry, "Look, it wasn't us".

Hypocracy is the greatest luxury.

We are recovering from a bubble in the HOUSING SECTOR. It was "housing" that was overvalued and is now undergoing a "correction" in much the same way as the tech bubble in the late 90s. What municipalities do is up to them, they will have to be taking strong medicine like the rest of the united states. As to the national debt we all know it is the 800lb gorilla in the room. We all also know that we are all going to have to sacrifice to get it under control. What we evidently don't all understand is that we had two choices, we could have addressed the debt in the midst of the falling economy which is what Japan did to inaugurate their 20+ years of stagflation which continues even today. Or we could have done what we did and try to put the brakes on for a runaway train, which is what was done.

We need to get away from this partisanship and start working together ideologically and creatively to address the problems that plague us or the USA has no future. Our children are less educated than our friends around the world, our economy is less healthy, our debt is out of control, our infrastructure is crumbling, we have a plethora of problems staring us in the face. If you want to stand by and point the finger while Rome falls then do so but know that there will be those of us unconcerned with whose fault it was because the two parties we have are the same wolf in different colored sheep's clothing. What we should be doing is trying our damnedest to save Rome from the barbarians and to reform the practices that got us to this point. Those of us who are young now will bear the brunt of the reorganization of the American economy. We WILL be the lost generation of this country, I just hope our sacrifice and the will of our hearts and minds will save our children from a similar fate.

Peace and may God/Allah/Yahweh help us,
Z
 
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dagnabit

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We are here, standing behind a just war, a war against the enemy that actually attacked us and not an enemy our leader's father didn't finish the first time.
we pulled out of the poppy war and invaded the sauds?
'bout time

unless you mean the war in afg. you know where we spend the majority of our time and resources killing farmers livelihoods whacking the tops off of flowers?
that is not a just war on those who attacked us...
 
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