Is this plant Overcrowded? Should i trim branches or leaves?

[MediScience]

Big Hello to all ICMAG'ers

Firstly this strain is GHS Cheese.

This plant is big, ive supercropped several main branches however there is still plenty of room as im at day 10 of 12/12. 5 or so branches are now growing in an S or L shape upwards.

However in the middle of the bush, their are way too many fan leaves either through the fan leaves themselves or the excess secondary + terminal growth.

I cant figure out if i should remove the little branches completely, maybe there is a rule in terms of how

much room each branch needs to prosper?

Also i could simply trim all of the fan leaves from these branches, seeing as i would cut them off anyway and then just spot harvest them at FD 30-40 for some psychadelic early flowers (note i said flowers not buds lol).

All in all it seems with maybe 4 less branches i would still have the perfect amount of coverage. Hmm. Up until now i managed to do everything spot on but i cant make this decision, its stressful!

please help!

 

[N'Kata DelGormo]

Maybe you should check the defoliation high yield technique.. You definetly look way too crowded in there..Check out this thread,..Hope this helps... http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163

 

[Hammerhead]

I take all branches from the bottom these will never produce anything anyway. A little pruning here and there. It's all good jsut dont go crazy and start clipping .

 

[CalcioErba2004]

Maybe you should check the defoliation high yield technique.. You definetly look way too crowded in there..Check out this thread,..Hope this helps... https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163

Yea...

You should do what hammerhead said, take off all the bottom leaves and branches and "lollipop" the plant. Dont start de foliating, you will need those leaves...

 

[whodair]

Big Hello to all ICMAG'ers

nice fan leaves yo !!

 

[MediScience]

N'Kata DelGormo>

Thankyou very much for reading the thread, and good advice. The link you provided gave me enough hard evidence to realise removing ALL fan leaves that were jammed up against other branches was the best option. I also removed all from the walls. There is a lot more room for the plant to move around now.

Im' gunna post some pics after a good coffee break. Im going to revisit this thread and post end results so people who thought it was a stupid idea can say their piece.


To the other posters, don't take offence. Step up your game.

You didnt even read the thread, then recommended an unrelated technique that would have no effect on my problem whatsoever.

I have already lollypopped my plants , the pictures of the foliage were from the middle section as described.

What, i repeat what sort of idiot offers advice to people without actually listening to the problem? Can you imagine if doctors did that? If you keep doing this to people you will eventually f*ck up someones grow through terrible advice, and its available by the truckload from internet experts here.

And last of all why do i need ALL the fan leaves for flowering, you should not tell people that , its ridiculous. In a small cabinet grow balancing the biomass between flowers and leaves is critical if the phenotype is unsuited. I already knew they were disposable hence the writing in my post...

Come on guys, tell me to hammer a rusty nail into the stem.

Yea...

You should do what hammerhead said, take off all the bottom leaves and branches and "lollipop" the plant. Dont start de foliating, you will need those leaves...

 

[Greensub]

I like defoliating... but their advice was very sound. In the middle of stretch (day 10 of 12/12) isn't the time to begin defoliating. Nobody in that thread recommends DF'ing in stretch, (and yes I've read that whole thread from beginning to end).

That being said... you may luck out because it looked like it was getting too big for your space anyways. Expect your stretch to come to a halt I would imagine (also the last of your root growth). But that may be what you needed to do if your space is so cramped... you're just out in uncharted territory now, nobody who had good results with DF'ing did it this way and I've seen a few pictures of some really messed up grows from misapplication of this process.

I'll be interested to see how it works out, nice healthy looking plant.

Can we see your post DF pic?

 

[VerdantGreen]

N'Kata DelGormo>


To the other posters, don't take offence. Step up your game.

maybe it's you that should step up your game - then you wont have to come to the infirmary and ask for advice in the first place - and that will avoid you feeling the need to be rude to the people who are giving it.

as for your problem, plants and buds can be pretty crowded and can get great yields without resorting to playing god and ripping all their leaves off. having said that you cant get two buds to grow in the same space so completely removing the weaker shoot in that case makes sense. removing the odd older fan leaf now and again can help get light to the budsites. a few at a time. older leaves are less photosythetically efficient than new ones..

VG

 

[Leroy Brown]

You definitely came out of nowhere with that post, must have taken things the wrong way, acting like a JA to people offering help won't get you very far.

 

[Hammerhead]

I would agree you come here and ask for help and shit on the people trying to help you. This is not the forum for you. You should look else where for help as I wont be offering any more bad advise lol.

 

[slackx]

N'Kata DelGormo>

Thankyou very much for reading the thread, and good advice. The link you provided gave me enough hard evidence to realise removing ALL fan leaves that were jammed up against other branches was the best option. I also removed all from the walls. There is a lot more room for the plant to move around now.

Im' gunna post some pics after a good coffee break. Im going to revisit this thread and post end results so people who thought it was a stupid idea can say their piece.


To the other posters, don't take offence. Step up your game.

You didnt even read the thread, then recommended an unrelated technique that would have no effect on my problem whatsoever.

I have already lollypopped my plants , the pictures of the foliage were from the middle section as described.

What, i repeat what sort of idiot offers advice to people without actually listening to the problem? Can you imagine if doctors did that? If you keep doing this to people you will eventually f*ck up someones grow through terrible advice, and its available by the truckload from internet experts here.

And last of all why do i need ALL the fan leaves for flowering, you should not tell people that , its ridiculous. In a small cabinet grow balancing the biomass between flowers and leaves is critical if the phenotype is unsuited. I already knew they were disposable hence the writing in my post...

Come on guys, tell me to hammer a rusty nail into the stem.

Check your attitude at the door, you aint been here for nothing but a minute. In a small cabinet grow is the same as growing everything else in the world thats a plant, the more you fuck with it the worse it will come out. Defoliating causes the plant to go into shock, removing healthy leaves and branches from your plant after you already made your necessary stalking is just fucking stupid. Maybe you should learn what your doing in the first place before you go asking for help if you wanna act like an asshole to people who offer you an array of ideas.

if you weren't being a dick to people i liked i'd tell you to leave your plants alone and just move the branches around because you don't wanna cause stress - anyone who tells you any different should go back to the basics and wiki photosynthesis and what's required for it.

 

[whodair]

im complimenting the big leaves homie !!

im complimenting the big leaves homie !!

[/IMG]

nice fan leaves yo !!

maybe you see big leaves as shading your buds ... i often see them as collecting light and providing energy and nutrients to the nug !! so id rather clean out them small stuff towards the bottom, and if the huge leaves are attached to a productive budsite, i rock em !!

shave those girls legs and make them look all sexy ...

 

[pyite20v]

Or just tuck the leaves down and underneath the budsites that are trying to get to the light, then you have the best of both worlds.

 

[j242]

Yes! Nice FAN leafs!

 

[LetTimmySmoke]

look at your plant and try to visualize it flowering. watch it stretch. look where you think the best buds. form an invisible line and chop everything below it.

i try to have around 4-5 flowering stems. on each stem, i trim the bottoms aka lollipop.

the point is to not take the stems, you want more flowering stems. if some stems are too low, turn them into clones.

with the remaining stems, just shave their lower half so that each stem only has tops.

hopefully you can visualize, wish i could show with a picture.

 

[majortom9]

pyite20v hit the nail on the head, just tuck em. I pinch my large fan leafs stems and bend them down just like supercroping a branch. It works just fine and wont kill the leaf so you still get the benefits from the leaf without all the extra shade. You can also remove all but 3 blades on every large leaf. That opens up more passages for light and leaves some leaf in place. I cant see defoliating on a large scale...its kinda like telling me that if I cut half of my fingers off I should be able to type faster, or if I have half of my stomach removed I will get more nutrition, just makes no sense to me. Peace