uk clone only! (and british bred strains)
- Thread starter lovelightpower
- Start date
- Status
I showed pictures of the various cuts circulating here to a bunch of yanks, who have been growing the ecsd for years, and they concur - on seeing pictures of Hazy's plant, the US cats confirmed it straight away as the real deal..
H
Hoover_lungz
We also have sum expert Yanks who have been growing SD for years confirm the xx SD is the Central Cali cut and my good friend Ibl is one them. The Sd debate can go on like the OG's,Exodus lol
Which ever is stronger or real or fake sum of us are just lucky enough to get them, so im happy either way
Last edited by a moderator:
The ECSD has a distinctive look about it and the xx one to me and its been said by others too looks more like og kush than Sour D, they are similar but then i think sour d and og kush taste very similar also( i also believe they are related)...Iv got the Dna cut though it had to be chopped early and was a fucked up grow and i havent tried it yet, either way like Jah stated they are all good if they wernt we wouldnt be talking about em lol! I still want the ecsd cause i just love the high..Peace
Last edited by a moderator:
H
Hoover_lungz
I copied this....
"Original article by: High&Lonesome
History of the Chemdawg Family
At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, 'joebrand' (aka 'wonkanobe') and 'pbud' met 'chemdog' and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. joe and chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.
In 91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you cant blame him). The 3 females were labeled chemdawg (now 91 chemdawg), chemdawg a (now chemdawgs sister), and chemdawg b. In '01, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled c, d, and e. the e seed never germinated, c turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg d was the keeper. In '06, 'chemdog' and 'joebrand' reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, '4' being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the '4' was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the 'reunion pheno'. Chemdog still has two seeds left in his stash.
Chemdawg Crosses:
'OG Kush' (the original cut) came from an s1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.
'Sour Diesel' aka ECSD came from an accidental cross of ('91 Chemdawg x Mass Super Skunk/NL)x DNL after the DNL hermed and seeded the room. The DNL's lineage is NL/Shiva x Hawaiian.
Original Diesel' (also known as Diesel #1, Headband, Daywrecker Diesel, Underdawg) came from a cross of '91 Chemdawg x (Mass Super Skunk x Sensi's Northern Lights) done by a guy known as weasel.
'chemdog' and friends made several crosses that are held closely by a small group of friends and acquaintances. Among them are:
1. Super Snowdawg (Bubble Chem x [Super skunk x Oregon Sno])
2. Giesel (Chem D x Mass Super Skunk)
3. Bubble Chem (Chemdawgs Sister x Sag's Bubbleberry)
4. Dawg Daze aka ChemHaze (Chem D x 93 Sensi's NL#5/Haze)
5. Chemdawg D x Pbud (another old-school Colorado strain)
JJ-NYC has been working on a Chemdawg D-based seed line for several years now. He started by crossing Chemdawg D to Sensi's Afghani after thoroughly testing both Sensi's Afghani and Sensi's Hindu Kush to determine which was more stable and would be better for the initial cross. JJ then did a backcross, known as "Double Dawg." Several phenos of this circulate and several people still have beans. JJ's latest work to the line is a second backcross known as "Tres Dawg" which is just starting to get tested.
Rezdog of Reservoir Seeds recently released several Chemdawg crosses as part of his 'Trinity' charity auctions. The crosses included Chemdawg D x Sensi's Hindu Kush and Snowdawg x Sensi's Hindu Kush, Chemdawg D x Sour Diesel IBL, Snowdawg x Sour Diesel IBL, ChemHaze x Sour Diesel IBL and Giesel x Sour Diesel IBL.
"Original article by: High&Lonesome
Special thanks go to orgogliodiprovi and chemdog who helped me straighten out the story and exact details."
Last edited by a moderator:
Ganja Baba has every flavour you can think of
Ganaj baba im renaming you FLAVOUR FLAVOURmy good friend lol
cheers mate , hope all is good for you . hope to catch you at our summer smoke out will let you know in spring , it will be camping style
These three Bilberrys are looking outstanding at seven weeks - one looks to be into the final stages now, with another close behind, and the other a good two weeks behind those, I reckon. So looking at about nine to 11 weeks range (in organic soil) by the looks of things.
They've sorted themselves out now too - #1 has longer, club-shaped buds, #2 (the slowest) is a more sativa pheno, but with denser buds than usual (Mystery Strain-leaning shape-wise), and #3 is the fastest, most indica, with leafier, bullet-shaped buds - also has the most intense, fruity aroma imaginable. All three are well-coated with sticky resin, and if they carry on like this, I'm going to really struggle picking one, as they all have qualities I like!
They've sorted themselves out now too - #1 has longer, club-shaped buds, #2 (the slowest) is a more sativa pheno, but with denser buds than usual (Mystery Strain-leaning shape-wise), and #3 is the fastest, most indica, with leafier, bullet-shaped buds - also has the most intense, fruity aroma imaginable. All three are well-coated with sticky resin, and if they carry on like this, I'm going to really struggle picking one, as they all have qualities I like!
H
Hoover_lungz
Hey GB, everything is good bruv
I remember Bananaman talking about a uk smoke out for 2011 at the Ht cup, you guys still on it
Ive just noticed all of our posts have been edited to xx sour d lmao what a sad world
if you look at the bottom of the post it says:
Last edited by KharmaGirl; Yesterday at 11:42 PM.. Reason: TOU Violation #8
weve been edited pretty heavily going back a few pages. most of the stuff about funky, including the post where i quoted the TOU to show that i wasnt breaking them, have been deleted.
Here's the Bilberrys at seven weeks looking mighty tasty - first a group shot, then #1 (centre), #2 (right and #3 (left):
I'm rotating them daily, so they all get their turn under the hotspot, and none suffering as a result, despite the closeness to the light - I'm amazed how green they still are at this stage too. #2 is the slowest, and looks to be at least a week longer than the other two - possibly even more.
One other point of great interest - they're almost spider-mite-free - hardly a nibble on any of them. The original Blueberry mother was reasonably resistant, as was Flo, but the Mystery Strain had no resistance whatsoever, and I was always concerned that trait may carry through - it seems not. I don't have much of a mite problem generally, but there's usually a few move in toward late flower, but they're strangely absent this time.
The leaves of all three plants do have a strange 'plasticy' quality, which may have something to do with it, and their slowness to turn yellow (or purple) may also be contributing to the mite-resistance. May just be coincidence, but worth noting, anyway.
I'm rotating them daily, so they all get their turn under the hotspot, and none suffering as a result, despite the closeness to the light - I'm amazed how green they still are at this stage too. #2 is the slowest, and looks to be at least a week longer than the other two - possibly even more.
One other point of great interest - they're almost spider-mite-free - hardly a nibble on any of them. The original Blueberry mother was reasonably resistant, as was Flo, but the Mystery Strain had no resistance whatsoever, and I was always concerned that trait may carry through - it seems not. I don't have much of a mite problem generally, but there's usually a few move in toward late flower, but they're strangely absent this time.
The leaves of all three plants do have a strange 'plasticy' quality, which may have something to do with it, and their slowness to turn yellow (or purple) may also be contributing to the mite-resistance. May just be coincidence, but worth noting, anyway.
thanks every one for the possitive rep you have sent me .
Here's the Bilberrys at seven weeks looking mighty tasty - first a group shot, then #1 (centre), #2 (right and #3 (left):
I'm rotating them daily, so they all get their turn under the hotspot, and none suffering as a result, despite the closeness to the light - I'm amazed how green they still are at this stage too. #2 is the slowest, and looks to be at least a week longer than the other two - possibly even more.
One other point of great interest - they're almost spider-mite-free - hardly a nibble on any of them. The original Blueberry mother was reasonably resistant, as was Flo, but the Mystery Strain had no resistance whatsoever, and I was always concerned that trait may carry through - it seems not. I don't have much of a mite problem generally, but there's usually a few move in toward late flower, but they're strangely absent this time.
The leaves of all three plants do have a strange 'plasticy' quality, which may have something to do with it, and their slowness to turn yellow (or purple) may also be contributing to the mite-resistance. May just be coincidence, but worth noting, anyway.
mate that is an outstanding grow for the space , looks like you really know your space inside out ,i to was surprised how green and nice they look having the light so close , really good work mate ,
plant vitality seems to kill mites first time if you have not tried it all ready for veg only though . good luck on the rest of your grow
Jah, seriously mate the one hazy has is the best ECSD ive grown out and smoked..., have you not try'd hazy's???
that 8-9 weeks is prob more like 10-11 if you count from when the light went 12-12 but i usually count from when it is starting to flower properly...
nice pic's peesh!!!!
best one i smoked was from sunsimulator i have no doubt its the original ecsd , doesnt taste of og like alot of the ones kicking around now days , i have tried hazys , it does smell and taste like ecsd ,
thing is sunsimulator weed is propbably the best grown buds i have tried . His stuff is so nice even smoking the leaves tend to taste better than other weeds . he grows it so well the taste is perfect all the way till the end of the joint .. if i could choose any ecsd to grow it would be his cut . and the sour slut he made , man o man imo better than ecsd
secret skunk
secret skunk
This is the secret skunk clone only . we have all ways been told its sk1 x big bud from sensi seeds around 20 years ago ,
she flowers in 81\2 weeks , smells and tastes like apples and pairs and has a strong similarity to chocolope the coffee shop cut .
secret skunk
This is the secret skunk clone only . we have all ways been told its sk1 x big bud from sensi seeds around 20 years ago ,
she flowers in 81\2 weeks , smells and tastes like apples and pairs and has a strong similarity to chocolope the coffee shop cut .
H
Hazyfontazy
Ganja baba - thanks mate - the Airpots are really making a difference, and the volume of soil they hold compared to previously can only be helping too, but they are a bit tall, so I'll chop them down a little next time.
As I mentioned many pages ago though, if this baiting and bitching carries on much longer, I'm leaving for good - and I won't be joining up with another sad-ass forum either as it'll be even worse than this one, without a doubt.
funckychicken, whoever you are - you've just joined, and yet you seemingly know folks well enough to begin insulting them immediately - which basically means you're an old user rejoining under a new ID to cause trouble - how mature. But FM/Ind/BH at least can spell words correctly, so unless the terrible spelling is a more 'sophisticated' decoy system than usual being deployed, I'd guess not on that particular ID.
But this nonsense is not only killing a thread, it's killing a reputation too - that of all of us as intelligent people/growers.
Maybe folks can't type much these days without insulting someone else before too long? I don't know - it's not a program I run these days, it being Windows 95-level maturity. And the net result will be the thread gets edited again, posts disappear, I come come back to find the whole thing making less sense than last time I was here, and I go for a walk in the sunshine instead, which is probably better for me in the long run...
As I mentioned many pages ago though, if this baiting and bitching carries on much longer, I'm leaving for good - and I won't be joining up with another sad-ass forum either as it'll be even worse than this one, without a doubt.
funckychicken, whoever you are - you've just joined, and yet you seemingly know folks well enough to begin insulting them immediately - which basically means you're an old user rejoining under a new ID to cause trouble - how mature. But FM/Ind/BH at least can spell words correctly, so unless the terrible spelling is a more 'sophisticated' decoy system than usual being deployed, I'd guess not on that particular ID.
But this nonsense is not only killing a thread, it's killing a reputation too - that of all of us as intelligent people/growers.
Maybe folks can't type much these days without insulting someone else before too long? I don't know - it's not a program I run these days, it being Windows 95-level maturity. And the net result will be the thread gets edited again, posts disappear, I come come back to find the whole thing making less sense than last time I was here, and I go for a walk in the sunshine instead, which is probably better for me in the long run...
- Status
