Calling all keif masters

[dingbat]

maybe you could make some oil like bho from some mid grade smoke and mix it into the kif that you bu y for a stronger smoke, I like to make oil and mix it with my kif, all I need is one hit and Im nice! but then again I get stoned pretty easy, my friends will do 2-3 and I hear no complaint s. only problem I have is some of it comes out rock hard w/hex.
grow your own, if you can, you'll save lots a $$$$$$ and make a little too(or alot)

ah yes... you mean like this:

 

[moresntoil]

nice

nice

ah yes... you mean like this:

you got it bro!!!!
looks like a yum-yum ball to me

 

[juicepuddle]

Good tips guys, I plan on growing my own, but now I have to deal with dispensaries(Dont get me wrong, I feel blessed to have the ability to go into one)

Heres some pics of the GDP I mentioned up above, I break it up press it slightly, then break it up again to smoke it.

 

[juicepuddle]

If you want I can get some before and after pics, its actually pretty awesome the way it melts / changes or whatever you wanna call it.

 

[mintz]

sorry peeps but i have to say this here as well, i know none of you can speak morrocan and most aint been or know any morrocan,but i have to correct this kief thing.kief is weed not hash,hash in morrocan is heyah,well good quality hash is,soap bar or shit hash is called hertukah or placka, weed which the older men smoke in a pipe that they call a subsie is kief,now if any one that reads this that is morrocan or can speak it fluent or has lived out here or knows mughrebi(morrocans) like me please speak up,cuz this is something that really pisses me off,a lot of clever sounding bull and talking like they know when you know nothing so get the little details right

 

[juicepuddle]

sorry peeps but i have to say this here as well, i know none of you can speak morrocan and most aint been or know any morrocan,but i have to correct this kief thing.kief is weed not hash,hash in morrocan is heyah,well good quality hash is,soap bar or shit hash is called hertukah or placka, weed which the older men smoke in a pipe that they call a subsie is kief,now if any one that reads this that is morrocan or can speak it fluent or has lived out here or knows mughrebi(morrocans) like me please speak up,cuz this is something that really pisses me off,a lot of clever sounding bull and talking like they know when you know nothing so get the little details right

Yeah well a guy just like you told me to call it kif, so I thought he was right, however now I call it whatever I want but usually stick to the name that the person who sold it to me calls it.

And in my first post I say when I SAY KIF I MEAN KIEF, so you didnt even read.

EDIT: Also there are pictures of what we are talking about above, see? No language required to look at the pictures and see we are refering to the resin glands / stalks shaken off of bud.

 

[Dkgrower]

Use a hand lens to check the quality, look fore how well sorted the dry sift is and how mature the glandsheads are.

Use strains with high resin production and with a high that one likes, cure and dry it fore a long time preff 6 months sift that fore optimum taste and smoothness off smoke

Keif is 1/3 tobacco and 2/3 crused up buds smoked in jibsi.

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

Use a hand lens to check the quality, look fore how well sorted the dry sift is and how mature the glandsheads are.

Use strains with high resin production and with a high that one likes, cure and dry it fore a long time preff 6 months sift that fore optimum taste and smoothness off smoke

Keif is 1/3 tobacco and 2/3 crused up buds smoked in jibsi.

Kief and bubble hash are not that different if made correctly. The "trick" is to use great trim or flowers, not much of a trick. And just like hash, different varieties make different melts and yield differently. Great bubble hash varieties make great dry screen.

Quality starts with a microscope, looks for black bits or any other contamination. But really, ya gotta smell it, and smoke it to know what lies inside.

 

[Thomkal Vwalaa]

lol at this guy's post

lol at this guy's post

sorry peeps but i have to say this here as well, i know none of you can speak morrocan and most aint been or know any morrocan,but i have to correct this kief thing.kief is weed not hash,hash in morrocan is heyah,well good quality hash is,soap bar or shit hash is called hertukah or placka, weed which the older men smoke in a pipe that they call a subsie is kief,now if any one that reads this that is morrocan or can speak it fluent or has lived out here or knows mughrebi(morrocans) like me please speak up,cuz this is something that really pisses me off,a lot of clever sounding bull and talking like they know when you know nothing so get the little details right

to the rest of the world kief (kif) is dry screen cannabis concentrate.

hash is also screened cannabis concentrate. Hash can be pressed kief. Hash is also something (mis)called bubblehash, this is actually ice water extraction using screens and may or may not be pressed.

you can be pissed, but your morrocan slang terms are obsolete and mean nothing to medical marijuana patients.

 

[moresntoil]

to the rest of the world kief (kif) is dry screen cannabis concentrate.

hash is also screened cannabis concentrate. Hash can be pressed kief. Hash is also something (mis)called bubblehash, this is actually ice water extraction using screens and may or may not be pressed.

you can be pissed, but your morrocan slang terms are obsolete and mean nothing to medical marijuana patients.

That is correct bro, as far as I know for the last 16 years that I have been reading and dealing with kif,keaf,keif,keef what ever, it is considered ONE TYPE of HASH here in the good old USA. press it and if done right with the right plant you can make your very own good morocan hash right in your basement. At least I have, and I choose to call it HASH. Maybe my tech is not exactly how they do it over there, but I think its close enough. I use both bud and bud trim. dry it out very dry, then I cover a large stainless steel bowl with a silkscrean like fabric, place very dried buds on screan, cover with plastic, beat it with a wooden spoon and collect.
Very basic and easy, I know. but have made some killer HASH, and as far as I know the resin that collects in the bowl is "keif". Then after being pressed, it is better knows as a hash.
I have boughten blonde morocan hash from a couple brothers who use to run the Challenger in Holland. not sure if they are still around?
If this is not true, someone please correct me, this is only my opinion, Moresntoil

 

[ICETOKER]

Fresh dryed trim, no exessive crushing and short shake time (about 1 min). Made with wikka box, 2 screens.

120 mesh

...the darker "hot dog" piece is from the first screen 100 mesh and the flat slab is from the second screen 120 mesh.

melty she is..

made with organic c99 and tsi fly trim. Very tasty and smooth without any cure at all..... took only 10 min to make and i bet it kicks most dispenseries kief ass by a mile....... grow your own, make your own!!

 

[juicepuddle]

I agree 100% that dispensaries are not the best way to go about getting potency in my kief, I know if I grew it, it could be so much better, one can only dream right?

Those pics are awesome, really digging the first one, the heads are so perfect!!!!

That is correct bro, as far as I know for the last 16 years that I have been reading and dealing with kif,keaf,keif,keef what ever, it is considered ONE TYPE of HASH here in the good old USA. press it and if done right with the right plant you can make your very own good morocan hash right in your basement. At least I have, and I choose to call it HASH. Maybe my tech is not exactly how they do it over there, but I think its close enough. I use both bud and bud trim. dry it out very dry, then I cover a large stainless steel bowl with a silkscrean like fabric, place very dried buds on screan, cover with plastic, beat it with a wooden spoon and collect.
Very basic and easy, I know. but have made some killer HASH, and as far as I know the resin that collects in the bowl is "keif". Then after being pressed, it is better knows as a hash.
I have boughten blonde morocan hash from a couple brothers who use to run the Challenger in Holland. not sure if they are still around?
If this is not true, someone please correct me, this is only my opinion, Moresntoil

Your correct, propper terming is kief for what this thread is talking about, and once pressed slightly it is known as hash, sorry for the misunderstandings.

 

[moresntoil]

I agree 100% that dispensaries are not the best way to go about getting potency in my kief, I know if I grew it, it could be so much better, one can only dream right?

Those pics are awesome, really digging the first one, the heads are so perfect!!!!



Your correct, propper terming is kief for what this thread is talking about, and once pressed slightly it is known as hash, sorry for the misunderstandings.

dont be sorry bro-no worries, I knew exactly what you where talking about. later-bro, moresntoil

 

[dingbat]

made the last batch of white kif into budder check it out

 

[Chamba]

Icetoker

That looks like nice dry sift!

I've got a dual screen Wikka box too, I noticed that the new models have been improved, the catching plate is now glass and is built into the base, so there's no gaps around the edges.

Check out Wikka boxes from Icmag.com sponsor Aqualabtechnologies, here's the 7x7 inch double screen.

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/medi...ns/wikka-7-x-7-double-shaker-box-natural.html

They call it a "shaker box" and it can be used that way, but you can also use it as prep area for grinding, sorting, packing bowls, or for very gentle dry sifting.
If you are sifting "just dried" material then it's best to be very gentle or you might smudge lots of resin heads on the mesh and on bits of plant matter.

but when sifting material that is months old, then I recommend re-sifting the resin. Make sure the box is cleaned out, tap each screen frame upside down to make sure all the little bits of plant matter is removed, then gently shake the box on a horizontal plane, use a vibrator, card the resin over each screen or tap the sides of the frame with drum sticks etc etc.

Re-sifting dry sifted works because resin heads are rounder and heavier than the lighter weight, jagged shaped, non-active bits of plant material, so initially, a higher % of resin heads will pass through the mesh again. Stop re-sifting when about 80% of the resin has passed through the mesh.

This is a variation of the old Afghan technique described by Clarke in "Hashish". A bunch of guys would stand up in a room with a pipe taking turns at hitting it. Also being passed around would be a mesh bag of resin that's inside another mesh bag, each guy holds the bag containing about 3 or 4 ounces of dry sifted resin and lifts it up and down, Clarke described puffs of dust each time the bag was dropped down then lifted up quickly again....this dust would be contaminant, the inner bag could be open enough so all of the resin could pass through, but fine enough so most of the contaminant remains. The outer mesh bag would be finer, fine enough to catch a majority of the resin heads while being open enough so the crap will pass though.

The lifting and dropping of the bag helps the resin pass through the first bag while the bigger bits of plant matter stays there and allows the contaminant to be broken up and pass through the bottom the outer "mesh" bag as well as "float" out the sides of the mesh leaving the cleaned up, much purer resin sitting in the outer bag.

maybe Sam Skunkman uses a variation on this "lift and drop" method to make his 99.999% pure dry sift?

 

[juicepuddle]

maybe Sam Skunkman uses a variation on this "lift and drop" method to make his 99.999% pure dry sift?

Hey great post thanks I really appreciate it, helpful / informative, just what I like!

As for sams amazing dry sift, a variation of this method is possible, I can only hope to one day get to sample heads that awesomely extracted.

I bet he uses a huge walk in freezer haha

 

[Chamba]

As for sams amazing dry sift, a variation of this method is possible, I can only hope to one day get to sample heads that awesomely extracted.

I bet he uses a huge walk in freezer hah

it certainly is the best I've seen online or off line, no doubt about it....too bad it's a secret

but keep in mind he yields only 10 grams of this 99.99% pure resin for every kilo of starting material he uses ...so it's not for everyone

and if you look at the resin heads from Bubbleman's pic of Sam's dry sift, the glands seem to be all exactly the same size, there doesn't seem to be any variation in size....my (latest) guess is that he uses resifting techniques as well as the drop and lift method and then separates this resin down to a narrow range of resin head sizing...one way to do that would be to dry sift the plant material over a 125 mesh for starters, then re-sift small amounts at time for a short duration over a finer mesh, (eg 130 mesh), then take this clean resin and work it in between a narrow range of mesh sizes (160 and 140 mesh or 105 and 95 micron?) and the rest of omitted

 

[Chamba]

Hey, I made a mistake, R.C. Clarke's book is called "Hashish!" not simply "Hashish".

I love that exclamation mark....hashish is just a word, but Hashish! adds a positive, uplifting emphasis.

buy a copy of Hashish! at Aqualabtech, and it's signed by the author, $35.95 + postage. this book is a must have for all of us who appreciate learning more about the history of and the making of better hashish and all things in between!

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/art-...pdated-2nd-edition-robert-connell-clarke.html

 

[toasted1]

lovin all the sift shots everything looks tasty

i need to get me some screens i do it with some mesh a jar and some AA's

heres some sift from it

stay safe
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[mintz]

Yeah well a guy just like you told me to call it kif, so I thought he was right, however now I call it whatever I want but usually stick to the name that the person who sold it to me calls it.

And in my first post I say when I SAY KIF I MEAN KIEF, so you didnt even read.

EDIT: Also there are pictures of what we are talking about above, see? No language required to look at the pictures and see we are refering to the resin glands / stalks shaken off of bud.

well stop calling hash kief coz it isnt and get dis right not a guy like me,know dis and get your facts right