So you are spraying the Greencure on yourself or drinking it?
Cancer is a fungus ? Cure it with PH ?
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rick shaw
OMG Activa and Alka Seltzer cures cancer. Absolutely brilliant. In only 30 minutes you have single handedly solved one of the worlds most studied diseases. The Nobel Committee should be in touch shortly. You didn't say what your urine ph & ppm was
I'm still waiting for link between alkaline foods and blood pH.
WHile we are at it, the relationship between urine pH and blood pH.
WHile we are at it, the relationship between urine pH and blood pH.
Like to add that the vast majority of your immune system begins in your digestive tract, just google it because I don't feel like searching for links. Good health starts with and possibly ends with or without proper nutrition just like a plant. 
Good health starts with and possibly ends with or without proper nutrition just like a plant.
That may be true in a general sense, but according to the latest science there is no link between any kind of diet and reduction in cancer rates.
Yzma
Member
Thanks for the compliment, SOTF420.
Actually, there so much evidence out there linking good nutrition and healthy lifestyle choices out there, free for the taking for those who are just willing to look with an open mind. I myself don't measure my own pH - I trust in the fact that I am making the proper dietary and lifestyle choices and let it be what it is. I'm also not 100% sure that either urine or saliva are 100% effective measurements of internal chemistry, given that in the case of saliva, parts of our digestive tract are deliberately maintained at different pH levels in order to foster specific stages of digestion/enzymes and microbial life, and urine is, in part, a cumulative output of excess fluids and waste materials and is also to some degree maintained at a specific pH (acid conditions in the bladder help stave off urinary tract infections)
I'm in full support of incorporating vitamin B17 (aka Laetrile / Amygdalin) in the diet - for those who have never heard of the substance, it is a natural component of fruit seeds and some plants. To me, it's an amazing example of how we have evolved symbiotically along with specific plants to our mutual benefit (I would certainly cite Cannabis as another, but that's a topic for a different conversation - THC may very well be a potent antioxidant, depending, I'm sure upon method of ingestion). The molecular makeup of Laetrile is very similar to, and can be considered a precursor to, cyanide. However, there is a matching enzyme in every normal cell in our bodies that neutralizes and renders this compound completely harmless (Rhodanese). Cancer cells, on the other hand, do not produce Rhodanese and are poisoned and killed by Laetrile. No toxic effects spill over to the adjacent healthy cells, only cancer cells are affected. Amygdalin is found naturally in many fruit seeds, including apple, cherry, almond, apricot and in some greens (particularly noteworthy is that it can be found in wheatgrass, one of the single-most alkalinizing and healthy foods, one that is the center of whole cancer reversing treatment programs). Incidentally, tribal people, such as the Hunza, whose diet includes much natural Laetrile from fruit seeds, have few to no historical recorded cases of cancer - ever. Note that these people also eat no processed foods, mostly fresh veggies, and get lots of fresh air and exercise as part of their lifestyle as well. It's important to note that Laetrile and other vitamin and mineral supplements are best consumed as whole, unextracted, undoctored substances from food sources. It has been proven that extraciv many compounds for the sake of convenience (or profit) alters the action and effectiveness of the substance - Turneric is a wonderful example here. It's a fantastic anti-cancer compound ( read up on it, really) - but taking curcumin (the noted active ingredient) in pill form has been discovered to not be nearly as effective as eating real turmeric. Often, it is the action of many related compounds in the food or herb together that give the desired effect, and taking one out of context can cause it to lose the intended result, at best (so eat your curry, folks! lol)
There is, unfortunately, I have found, a lot of disinformation out there on a lot of this stuff, particularly where more natural anti-cancer and alternative cancer treatment protocols are concerned. It's so important to read and to read between the lines. Much of the disinformation out there comes from the Pharmaceutical Industry an her sister organization, the FDA. Both work hand in hand together, and many top FDA folks get to look forward to cushy jobs on the board of directors for various pharmaceutical companies when their government stint is done. Just make sure that there is an understanding of motivation when evaluating any information and don't take anything at face value. Many of these compounds, including Laetrile have a lot of bd press out there because if the public knew how effective they were, the pharmaceutical industry would stand to lose a substantial amount of money. Ironically, they're indirectly the ones at fault where Laetrile is concerned!! A pharmaceutical-sponsored study of the compound at the Sloan-Kettering Institute was conducted by Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura. Without delving into details, which are freely available online, someone was brought in to document the study. When it was realized that Laetrile had the power to effectively neutralize cancer, the author went back to his sponsors, excited at the prospect of documenting the unprecedented cure for cancer, only to be told that he was, instead, to write a paper outlining the ineffectiveness of Laetrile as a treatment option. He refused to do so, and quit his job instead. So now, you will likely find information out there that tells you that apricot kernels and bitter almond kernels (both of which, especially the latter, contain the highest known concentrations of Letrile) are poisonous - hell, bitter almond is outright banned in the US (we of all people should be the first to be asking how anyone can ban a plant..). Chemotherapy drugs are one of this country's top grossing products.
Much of this sort of activity also surrounds Cannabis, and I'm frankly of the opinion that it's one of the reasons we will likely never see it legalized outright. It stands as a threat to not only the pharmaceutical industry but also the textile and paper industries and their supporting businesses. It's one of the most healthful foods out there, seeds containing one of the most perfect sources of easily digested protein, omega 3 fatty acids and leaves containing fiber and a high amount of chlorophyll (not to mention that there is quite a bit of evidence that THC is an antioxidant as well). It also provides some of the strongest textile fibers known, and is the perfect plant from which to derive fibers for paper products - unlike the use of trees, it grows quickly, requires little care and the fibers do not require environmentally damaging chemicals and bleaches to break it down into pulp. Just some thoughts..
Actually, there so much evidence out there linking good nutrition and healthy lifestyle choices out there, free for the taking for those who are just willing to look with an open mind. I myself don't measure my own pH - I trust in the fact that I am making the proper dietary and lifestyle choices and let it be what it is. I'm also not 100% sure that either urine or saliva are 100% effective measurements of internal chemistry, given that in the case of saliva, parts of our digestive tract are deliberately maintained at different pH levels in order to foster specific stages of digestion/enzymes and microbial life, and urine is, in part, a cumulative output of excess fluids and waste materials and is also to some degree maintained at a specific pH (acid conditions in the bladder help stave off urinary tract infections)
I'm in full support of incorporating vitamin B17 (aka Laetrile / Amygdalin) in the diet - for those who have never heard of the substance, it is a natural component of fruit seeds and some plants. To me, it's an amazing example of how we have evolved symbiotically along with specific plants to our mutual benefit (I would certainly cite Cannabis as another, but that's a topic for a different conversation - THC may very well be a potent antioxidant, depending, I'm sure upon method of ingestion). The molecular makeup of Laetrile is very similar to, and can be considered a precursor to, cyanide. However, there is a matching enzyme in every normal cell in our bodies that neutralizes and renders this compound completely harmless (Rhodanese). Cancer cells, on the other hand, do not produce Rhodanese and are poisoned and killed by Laetrile. No toxic effects spill over to the adjacent healthy cells, only cancer cells are affected. Amygdalin is found naturally in many fruit seeds, including apple, cherry, almond, apricot and in some greens (particularly noteworthy is that it can be found in wheatgrass, one of the single-most alkalinizing and healthy foods, one that is the center of whole cancer reversing treatment programs). Incidentally, tribal people, such as the Hunza, whose diet includes much natural Laetrile from fruit seeds, have few to no historical recorded cases of cancer - ever. Note that these people also eat no processed foods, mostly fresh veggies, and get lots of fresh air and exercise as part of their lifestyle as well. It's important to note that Laetrile and other vitamin and mineral supplements are best consumed as whole, unextracted, undoctored substances from food sources. It has been proven that extraciv many compounds for the sake of convenience (or profit) alters the action and effectiveness of the substance - Turneric is a wonderful example here. It's a fantastic anti-cancer compound ( read up on it, really) - but taking curcumin (the noted active ingredient) in pill form has been discovered to not be nearly as effective as eating real turmeric. Often, it is the action of many related compounds in the food or herb together that give the desired effect, and taking one out of context can cause it to lose the intended result, at best (so eat your curry, folks! lol)
There is, unfortunately, I have found, a lot of disinformation out there on a lot of this stuff, particularly where more natural anti-cancer and alternative cancer treatment protocols are concerned. It's so important to read and to read between the lines. Much of the disinformation out there comes from the Pharmaceutical Industry an her sister organization, the FDA. Both work hand in hand together, and many top FDA folks get to look forward to cushy jobs on the board of directors for various pharmaceutical companies when their government stint is done. Just make sure that there is an understanding of motivation when evaluating any information and don't take anything at face value. Many of these compounds, including Laetrile have a lot of bd press out there because if the public knew how effective they were, the pharmaceutical industry would stand to lose a substantial amount of money. Ironically, they're indirectly the ones at fault where Laetrile is concerned!! A pharmaceutical-sponsored study of the compound at the Sloan-Kettering Institute was conducted by Dr. Kanematsu Sugiura. Without delving into details, which are freely available online, someone was brought in to document the study. When it was realized that Laetrile had the power to effectively neutralize cancer, the author went back to his sponsors, excited at the prospect of documenting the unprecedented cure for cancer, only to be told that he was, instead, to write a paper outlining the ineffectiveness of Laetrile as a treatment option. He refused to do so, and quit his job instead. So now, you will likely find information out there that tells you that apricot kernels and bitter almond kernels (both of which, especially the latter, contain the highest known concentrations of Letrile) are poisonous - hell, bitter almond is outright banned in the US (we of all people should be the first to be asking how anyone can ban a plant..). Chemotherapy drugs are one of this country's top grossing products.
Much of this sort of activity also surrounds Cannabis, and I'm frankly of the opinion that it's one of the reasons we will likely never see it legalized outright. It stands as a threat to not only the pharmaceutical industry but also the textile and paper industries and their supporting businesses. It's one of the most healthful foods out there, seeds containing one of the most perfect sources of easily digested protein, omega 3 fatty acids and leaves containing fiber and a high amount of chlorophyll (not to mention that there is quite a bit of evidence that THC is an antioxidant as well). It also provides some of the strongest textile fibers known, and is the perfect plant from which to derive fibers for paper products - unlike the use of trees, it grows quickly, requires little care and the fibers do not require environmentally damaging chemicals and bleaches to break it down into pulp. Just some thoughts..
S
Stankie
Whenever I eat an apple I eat everything except them stem. I always eat watermelon seeds also. Funny, now seeded watermelons are more expensive than the GM seedless kind. Saving apricot pits, letting them dry, and crushing them like a nut will get you to the edible part of the pit.
There used to be B-17 supplements available, but because it contains 'cyanide' it was removed from shelves for our 'safety'.
There used to be B-17 supplements available, but because it contains 'cyanide' it was removed from shelves for our 'safety'.
CrumpleZone
Member
Bicarb Side Effects and Dosing Info:
Bicarb Side Effects and Dosing Info:
http://www.drugs.com/mmx/sodium-bicarbonate.html
"Side/adverse effects
Signs of potential side effects, especially hypokalemia
General Dosing Information
Prolonged sodium bicarbonate therapy is not recommended because of the high risk of causing metabolic alkalosis or sodium overload. {01} {05}
In acute mild to moderate acidosis, oral treatment is preferred to intravenous therapy. In severe acute acidosis, sodium bicarbonate may be given intravenously.
For oral dosage forms only
Sodium bicarbonate is a fast-acting antacid, but has a short duration of effect. It has a high neutralizing capacity.
The maximum daily dosage of sodium is 200 mEq (l6.6 grams of sodium bicarbonate) in patients younger than 60 years of age and 100 mEq (8.3 grams of sodium bicarbonate) in patients 60 years of age or older. {03}
When sodium bicarbonate is used as an antacid, the maximum dosage allowed should not be taken for more than 2 weeks except with the advice or under the supervision of a physician. {03}
In the treatment of peptic ulcer disease, sodium bicarbonate may be administered 1 and 3 hours after meals and at bedtime. Additional doses of antacids may be administered to relieve the pain that may occur between the regularly scheduled doses."
You would probably have to go way overboard, since your stomach is normally full of 16 molar HCL, but I'm sure it could be done by someone obsessing over cancer.
Bicarb Side Effects and Dosing Info:
http://www.drugs.com/mmx/sodium-bicarbonate.html
"Side/adverse effects
Signs of potential side effects, especially hypokalemia
General Dosing Information
Prolonged sodium bicarbonate therapy is not recommended because of the high risk of causing metabolic alkalosis or sodium overload. {01} {05}
In acute mild to moderate acidosis, oral treatment is preferred to intravenous therapy. In severe acute acidosis, sodium bicarbonate may be given intravenously.
For oral dosage forms only
Sodium bicarbonate is a fast-acting antacid, but has a short duration of effect. It has a high neutralizing capacity.
The maximum daily dosage of sodium is 200 mEq (l6.6 grams of sodium bicarbonate) in patients younger than 60 years of age and 100 mEq (8.3 grams of sodium bicarbonate) in patients 60 years of age or older. {03}
When sodium bicarbonate is used as an antacid, the maximum dosage allowed should not be taken for more than 2 weeks except with the advice or under the supervision of a physician. {03}
In the treatment of peptic ulcer disease, sodium bicarbonate may be administered 1 and 3 hours after meals and at bedtime. Additional doses of antacids may be administered to relieve the pain that may occur between the regularly scheduled doses."
You would probably have to go way overboard, since your stomach is normally full of 16 molar HCL, but I'm sure it could be done by someone obsessing over cancer.
Tactical Farmer
Member
Its too expensive, snorting a line of it when I wake up though..
Rick = In only 30 minutes you have single handedly solved one of the worlds most studied diseases.
It wouldn't surprise me if the cure to cancer was this simple. Even with my sixth grade IQ I can see why there will never be a cure to anything available to the general public in todays world, why cancer rates will continue to increase & why expensive dangerous treatments are used.
Did the light bulb come on yet ? if not get a cold glass of pepsi & go back to watching tv.
Sorry folks - Please continue the positive conversations.
I eat tons 'o sprouts so I'm set on B17. I just had a smoothie with a few mini-apples in it though. Tons 'o seeds! And it was dank.
Thanks for the information! Cheers!
Thanks for the information! Cheers!
CrumpleZone
Member
Crumple, I think your last observation may be your best - your body needs its stomach to be very acid in order to begin the breakdown process - it's the acid or alkaline "ash" leftover from the digestive process of the various foods that affects your internal pH.[/QUOTE)]
I think what I'm getting at is that you can eat as alkaline as you want, but the same as taking too much Vitamin C, your body just eliminates the bicarb, and fights to maintain systemic pH within normal limits until it's buffering system is overwhelmed.
For me, this would tend to invalidate any notion that suggests that cancer should be treated with an alkaline diet. The only place all that bicarb would end up would be in the toilet. Urinary Tract and Colon cancers may get a bicarb facial, but that's about it. Please correct me if I'm wrong
The fact that alkaline foods get me high and acidic foods give me heartburn is enough for me to know that the pH of my food matters.
CrumpleZone
Member
Are you sure you're not confusing alkalines with alkaloids?
PS: Love the Luther Burbank quote in your sig.
Yzma
Member
Ah, I understand you know. Sorry, I misread what you said.
I think it's important to distinguish between foods/substances that are acid/alkaline and those that leave and acid/alkaline ash in your system - they aren't necessarily the same. For example, lemon is an extremely acid food, but the ash that it leaves behind is alkaline - lemon is right at the top of the list for alkaline foods.
I know that for the most part minerals tend to be very alkalinizing, but I can;'t say that this is an across the board statement. Also, as you noted in your post where hyperkalemia is mentioned (er, without looking it up.. i think that's a potassium deficiency) - overnuting with one thing causes a deficiency with another nutrient. Frankly, all discussion of cancer aside, it really amazes me how astonishingly closely this all ties in with what we know about growing our plants.. But it makes sense! Are we really all that different? I guess not!
Another thing to note about acidosis (system being too acidic) - yes your body does try to maintain the proper pH all on it's own, but you may be surprised at how! As i'd mentioned, minerals are alkaline, top of my head, cesium (not the radioactive element but the mineral), calcium, potassium I think are the most. What happens when your body is too acidic? It uses minerals to try to balance the pH. Guess where it takes those minerals from - do you think osteoperosis has anything to do with a lack of calcium?
Certainly none of us understand the process completely, and so I would never presume to correct you, even if I disagreed - we are all here to learn together! I am more excited about engaging each and every one of you on a topic that interests me, and I could care less about being right. Heck, i'm looking forward to learning myself!
I think it's important to distinguish between foods/substances that are acid/alkaline and those that leave and acid/alkaline ash in your system - they aren't necessarily the same. For example, lemon is an extremely acid food, but the ash that it leaves behind is alkaline - lemon is right at the top of the list for alkaline foods.
I know that for the most part minerals tend to be very alkalinizing, but I can;'t say that this is an across the board statement. Also, as you noted in your post where hyperkalemia is mentioned (er, without looking it up.. i think that's a potassium deficiency) - overnuting with one thing causes a deficiency with another nutrient. Frankly, all discussion of cancer aside, it really amazes me how astonishingly closely this all ties in with what we know about growing our plants.. But it makes sense! Are we really all that different? I guess not!
Another thing to note about acidosis (system being too acidic) - yes your body does try to maintain the proper pH all on it's own, but you may be surprised at how! As i'd mentioned, minerals are alkaline, top of my head, cesium (not the radioactive element but the mineral), calcium, potassium I think are the most. What happens when your body is too acidic? It uses minerals to try to balance the pH. Guess where it takes those minerals from - do you think osteoperosis has anything to do with a lack of calcium?
Certainly none of us understand the process completely, and so I would never presume to correct you, even if I disagreed - we are all here to learn together! I am more excited about engaging each and every one of you on a topic that interests me, and I could care less about being right. Heck, i'm looking forward to learning myself!
There is a big company out here in Cali named Apricot Power, with a website of the same name and you can get plenty of organic (bitter) Apricot kernels and related supplements from the them that are perfectly legal and very safe when used as directed plus they are right here in the USA so no worries about having to buy stuff from Mexico or the likes.
Two most important would be the Apricot kernels themselves and their complete enzyme supplement if you are interested in adding more "B17" to your normal healthy balanced diet as an anti-cancer measure. Be well.
Two most important would be the Apricot kernels themselves and their complete enzyme supplement if you are interested in adding more "B17" to your normal healthy balanced diet as an anti-cancer measure. Be well.
In my experience, most Western Doctors are poison pushing idiots. They treat the symptoms of a disease not the cause.
Chemo for cancer? Yeah, let us kill every cell in your body to make you live.
Just say "No!" - to your pharmacist.
Yeah, thats pretty well stated. I see cancer as a disconnection, just look at whats happening. Normal healthy cells don't attack each other and try to take over the body. Cancer can be caused by a lot of things, repeat damage, a virus, etc. There are repair mechanism and they are going crazy trying to repair the cell, and then at some point, the cell just says eff this, and creates what is called an oncogene, which, when activated the programed death of a cell turns off. These cells stop caring about any of the other cells around them, no longer work together, and, basically, create their own entity within the body, going around, converting other cells into cancer. Cancer from my understanding is a disconnection.
B17, high dose vitamin c, liver cleansing, alkaline the body, only organic food, try and get more fresh food as well, little to no red meat intake and look at certain supplements any of the "supers" that contain a high amount of vitamins/minerals. I think if i had cancer, this would probably be my strategy. Along with daily meditation and keeping my mind as calm as possible, and keeping myself positive.
Fungus as cancer? maybe it might cause cancer, but, i don't see it being cancer.
peace guys. fun convo/topic
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