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[MynameStitch]

grosgourdin, your plants were lacking either calcium./potassium which the reason why is because the plants were being over fed and locking it out, how often do you feed and what kind? Have they been in that mixture since how old?

Mystik, what pH and water temps is your water? by now they need food, some of the decay you see is it feeding off itself

did you have anything in there in the cloner? how well are the roots grown when the problem started? are the roots white?

The twisting is from pH problem not being right...... twisting can also be caused by genetic mutation, but that clone looks like it's a mixture

 

[TheMystyk]

Ok so you know:
I'm not running Hydro, The main plant with all the problems is in Happy frogs soil
the soil Ph is 6.4-6.5 all the way around, Water temps are usually room temp, which for my house range bewtween 70-75, and is always a 7.0ph naturally, with 1 tds of 48-51.

The clones are just hydro buckets set into a special cloning liquid. They are on a 5gal pail to get them closer tot he light. The white stuff on them is "7" insecticide dust.
The clones are untouched by the same plague as the mother plants, and the roots just started maybe 1/8".
My soil is kept stable and the liquid my clones are just sitting in are set at 5.8.
My ferts are General organics The line is as follows
Bio Thrive Grow= 4-3-3
Bio Root= 1-1-1
Bio Weed= .2-0-.3
Bio Marine= 2-3-1
Diamond Black= 0-0-1 (Humic Acid)
Diamond Nectar= 0-1-1 (Fulvic Acid)
Bio Grow Bloom= 2-4-4
Bio Bud= .5-.1-1

Additional additives:
CaMg+
Hygrozyme
Molassases (Used only during bloom)
SuperThrive
Hormex
Olivias Cloning Solution

 

[MynameStitch]

ok. so the problem plant your having right now is in hydro buckets? you sorta lost me here a bit..... the way you explained your post is as if you were growing them in hydro right now.......

 

[FlaDankster]

Just wanted to say......the world needs more peeps like Stitch..........

 

[TheMystyk]

Actually nothing is in hydro.
The Mother plant (The One with all the problems) is in happy frogs Soil.

The clones were just sitting in a custom rooting liquid. They were containers set on a bucket to raise them closer to the light.

The clones are currently (Just put them tonight) a homemade aeroponics chamber. The mother plant is soon to follow.

Everything will be set up as a pd a month rotating system. Hopefully.

Hydro systems are too finicky for my patience. Aero is simple, check the ph and tds. If you want to get advanced check the water temp and NPK ratios....
Now if I could find something to check ALL the micronutes, cheaply I'd be game, those are more critical than Macro nutes.

 

[lbezphil2005]

this post

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for some reason on this page I keep trying to get to page 79 from 78 but it keeps coming back to 78! WTF?? Moderators, hello?

 

[FlaDankster]

for some reason on this page I keep trying to get to page 79 from 78 but it keeps coming back to 78! WTF?? Moderators, hello?

More than likely due to posts that have been deleted.Page #s stay the same.

 

[TheMystyk]

Ok for the sake of saving my clones.....

Their just starting roots bout a 1/4 long.
Their leaves are starting to turn yellow between the veins.

This didn't happen (Perfectly Healthy) until I relocated them to an aeroponics chamber.

Second problem, I have had issues with the PH level staying stabilized. It keeps going alkaline.
I use a combination of Pro PH up/Ph Down, along with aple cider vinegar (PH down) and Baking soda (Ph up).
Their is no air rocks or warming equipment in the solution.
I can set the PH at 5.5-5.8 and within 2-3hrs It will Ph at 6.0-6.5. Once it hit as high as 6.8.

My clones are not liking the ph jumps. An second I would like to be able to get some sleep or go to work and not have my Plants dead when I get home.

 

[still]

can anyone tell me what this prob is

How long has this problem been going on? 1 day
What STRAIN are you growing? strawberry cough nyc diesel salmon creek
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) clone
What is the age of your plants? 2 or so weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 1 week
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller no plant? If not, what mixture were they in before? dunno
How Tall are the plants? ranging from 1 foot + to 8 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? veg
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) dunno
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) half gal
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture Foxfarm are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
What brand Nutrient's are you using? none
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? none*Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding?
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS?
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
How often are you watering? every day
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
What size bulb are you using? 1k mh
How old is your bulbs? unknown
What is the distance to the canopy? 2 feet
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
What is the canopy temperature? 75 to 80
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) 75 to 80
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 500
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? i have a vent system with a carbon scrubber leading out of my garage
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? it was an i moved it thinking it might be part of the problem
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? moist
Is your water HARD or SOFT? dunno
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? filtered
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?(Only if you have a tds pen)
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?(Only if you have a tds pen)
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? yes 1 day ago its called spectacide bug stop
Are plant's infected with pest's? no

 

[still]

bump.....

 

[Rob Deck]

Edited: problem believed to be solved

 

[MynameStitch]

Hey still are you still having these problems?

I am sorry for my severe absence, there just so much going on I am fighting on 3 fronts at the same time.... family medical and my son's case. Which I am about to get a lawsuit going about that...... my kid is seeing special doc's to treat his mitochondria dysfunction. related to being vaccinated..... so it's hard to spread my time between these, my video games for the first time in my life are collecting dust and I only been playing one game the most lately, so sorry if I do not get back right away

 

[still]

your right mate hope all works out for u would still love your advice i dosed em up with lime and then blood and bone then hit em with everything i had scary i know but it seems to have worked i thought it was ph but now i just think so much rain had washed everything out it is fixed i think but i have know idea what fixed it as i did everything

 

[Technique]

Hey Guys, hope all's well Stitch!

I got a small problem here, unsure on whats going on. i've not really fed the plants much at all. and after seeing these problems starting i have pumped about 30L of plain water thru the pot to try flush out the issue..

Simple soil, cant remember what strain it is but its usually pretty hardy.

At first i thought it was from me using a spray can type pest killer to get rid of white flies. And i think about a week or so ago i fed the plant with a bit of seaweed type fertilizer, didnt think i overdid it at all but who knows..

Have been using a pretty strong mix of neem oil also now to fuck the flies off..

anyway heres the photos!

 

[HenriettaHippo]

epic... I have been using this guide for a while now. IT is pretty much biblical to grow.

 

[farmersmith]

love this thread saved my plants nice one stitch very helpfull

 

[lbezphil2005]

I have been stuck on the same page on this thread since I subscribed to this thread!! WTF?!?! Do I need to unsub then resub? I don't get it I click on page 80 go to page 79!!!

 

[lbezphil2005]

Hey Guys, hope all's well Stitch!

I got a small problem here, unsure on whats going on. i've not really fed the plants much at all. and after seeing these problems starting i have pumped about 30L of plain water thru the pot to try flush out the issue..

Simple soil, cant remember what strain it is but its usually pretty hardy.

At first i thought it was from me using a spray can type pest killer to get rid of white flies. And i think about a week or so ago i fed the plant with a bit of seaweed type fertilizer, didnt think i overdid it at all but who knows..

Have been using a pretty strong mix of neem oil also now to fuck the flies off..

anyway heres the photos!

either got the leaves wet with the ferts/neem and they burnt or nitrogen burn, maybe

 

[ganjasuiteseat]

gotta tag this

 

[Indian Culture]

I'm sorry if this has been answered before but I am new to this. When you have a water softener can you use the water if you run it through a RO unit? What I'm asking is if the RO unit will take the sodium out of the water?

One more thing I forgot to add, what is the best method to check your soil ph?