Never cloned before

[TriWingGirl]

That was the way i was leaning toward seeds seem to do better without the dome.

Don't need many just found a couple kinds i like. Tired of spending so much on seeds.

No offense to seeds just need to stop wasting so many.

Now i can choose when i start new seeds and get great Mothers

Very COOL

 

[RockyMountainHi]

I too was where you are now.

I tried several methods and killed a BUNCH of plants befor I has success. Now - sometimes I can have a cutting sit in a cup of water ane it will grow roots.

I tried a wick cloner, starter cubes, water, soil and I think praying to the plants. Finally I built a cheapo aero cloner - and put a 25W. heater in it - and made a humidity dome for it - then it started to click.

I remember killing every single plant - then learning to get them started - then learn to veg them, then flower - then harvest - then you learn about mold.... and every step - it seems some died in the teaching.

Lotta learnin huh???

Don't take it personal - and keep poking till something works.

That said,,, I still have 3 cheapo aero cloners plugged in and running. (if you ever get a case of stem rot - you will start to think about back-up systems.

Lately - I've been dipping the cutting in Clone-X and using rockwool starter cubes - and gettinmg about 90% success rate -

Wilting is bad

BAD wilting is REALLY BAD any wilting of the cutting should be avoided. When I use the rockwool starters, I have a humidity dome over the cuts and the starters are SOAKED - remove the dome for a few minutes , a couple times a day - and keep extending the open time - and again remmber - wilting is bad.

pH and relitive humidity and temprature all have direct affect on the plants - and if conditions are not close - your fighting an uphill battle. Shaded lighting can also help.

When you think you will never "get it" - your probably getting close.

In the end I was going bonkers with a infered thermometer and humifiyers and and and.,,,,

And once it started to look easy - I had better and better success.

Now - if I have 10 seeds - I get 10 plants with clones.

Much like a good woman, life is simpler when the girls in the garden are happy. Speaking of which - time to make the doughnuts


I'll b back

 

[teemu shalanie]

ok check it...... simple way 2 take clones is to use 1-1/2' rockwell cubes, sokes em in ph balanced 5.7 h20 for 12 hours , then squeeze em out between your hands like a sponge but don't ring em out too hard or you will fuck em up, then I usually mix up 2l aprox of h2o with 3ml oer litre of B52, I use this to dampen the cubes a bit more once I take cuts, and also as a folier spray too.
When actually taking the cut from the plant I cut on a 45, and leave another node I can also cut about 1/2' up from the 45 cut , then I just coat the exposed cuts to root tech gel , it seems to work great for me ....., Then I mist the fuk outta em pour a lil B52 juice in the tray so they don't dry outcover with a solid dome lid (no holes) and I put em under a 24" t5, in an old fridges ...freezer compartment, after 48hour I switch to a dome with holes, let em breath a bit , from there just keep misting every day or so
and in about 7 days .....bobs ur uncle
Peace TS

 

[BPJR]

I have a tutorial I made up that you can find under my signature. You may want to read it and see if it helps. Good luck on your cloning

Cheers!
Bobby

 

[FreezePop]

Bad Rabbit has it right. This is what I use exactly and it easier then having to try to MacGuyver something together out of bubblegum and shoeboxes.

Fluoros(2 or 4'), humidity dome, cloning gel, spray bottle and a razor blade(or any hydro shop sells scalpals for $2 each and they have a handle). This is all you need to clone. The only thing that needs replacing is the cloning gel every few months or even a year and the razor blade.

Geez if you don't have $50 to spend on your grow maybe you shouldn't be growing in the first place.

 

[TriWingGirl]

Started my first clones today

Started my first clones today

I started my first clones today. I had 2 plants with the lower branches long enough to take. i trimmed the leafs a little like i was shown and they are not under a dome. i will spray them acasionally with water to keep them wet for a couple days or until they die.

Here goes my first try. Got many more branches to experiment with be so cool if the first one works though.

 

[BadRabbit]

I have an 80-90% success rate with cloning and I don't use domes. I keep the room between 65-80 degrees. I find I have less plant health problems when I don't use the dome.

I'm sure that's true .... but I get 100% with a dome

You can get problems with the dome if you leave it on too long ... it's only needed for the first 4 to 6 days. Leave it on longer and you can start to get mold.

Plus its all relative to the relative humidity .... so to speak.

 

[TriWingGirl]

Well the 4 of them have survived the night and still seem to be alive, no wilting anyway. AND NO DOME

they actually look better today

 

[RockyMountainHi]

or until they die.

Not to be pissy, but that's not what we call, assuming a positive approach.


Kinda like seeing the Captain of the Titanic purchasing a butt load of insurance before the voyage.



So far, - your holding 100%

 

[kez]

was wondering if their was any news.......looking to take clones myself any day now???

 

[TriWingGirl]

Growing

Growing

The first 4 are growing. I started 4 more and they are doing fine and growing.

I am not using a dome and all my clones that i started are growing.

I am going to experiment with topping a plant and using that to start a clone.

As far as until they die, thats just allowing for all possibilities. That way it is not as upsetting if they die.

No dieing going on though just lots of growing.

Take you clone from the mother, dip in cloning powder, put it in a rapid rooter cup in it's tray. trim the larger leafs in 1/2. Just leave the dome off, keep them moist. They will grow. As they get bigger trim the leafs you cut. This stimulates more growth.

Good luck my experiment worked, now i am confident in cloning it is not hard just try it.

The plants want to grow just let them and do as little as you have to, to much fussing is what has caused all my troubles.

Just let them do what comes naturally to them, don't force them.

I'm a cloner

 

[RockyMountainHi]

Atta-boy TriWingGirl

ya can't be afraid to try again when needed.

ot if your like me. again and again and again

 

[Frozenguy]

Glad you got something working for you! In case you wanted to be exposed to another way, I'll throw mine out there.

Just so you know, I've found with some strains (most of them actually, the ones that I work with at least) root faster without cutting the leafs in half.

I clone in pure water, pH adjusted by lemon juice. No dome, and I SOAK the rockwool blocks with water. I also clone at about 67-72 deg F. No dome after 24-36 hours.

roots in 7-8 days (from the 4" blocks) for most of my strains. Oh and I dont spray my clones with anything.

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[charliemurphy]

An excellent way to go for simple cut and forget cloning is a aerocloner. There are links for a DIY one on the site, basically a rubbermaid with a submerged pump inside of it hooked up to misters. I have generally had 100% success just taking clippings and sticking them in the cloner - no cloning gel or fancyness.

 

[TriWingGirl]

WOW Way Cool

WOW Way Cool

WOW Way Cool

Just about anything will grow the stronger the cutting the stonger the clone.

Bigger cuttings try to fool and look like they not making it but just wait and up they grow. it is amazing how easy this is, why was i so against doing this.

Oh yea i still don't have a place built to keep moms.

Hard head took big hammer to get though to it and get it to Learn


Still very good thing to know

 

[SOTF420]

Read the link in my sig, I think you might find it helpful on cloning

 

[RadMan]

Great Thread.. Learning lots ... Subbed..

 

[speedyrpg]

i have my best % when i put my clones in a dome & seal them with tape 4 2 weeks put them on a heat pad. open doom check 4 roots. i add 2 cups of water with supper thrive 2 the bottum of the tray b 4 tapeing. good luck.

 

[TriWingGirl]

My first issue?

My first issue?

OK I'm cloning with out a dome.

I took the top off a plant and cloned it. actually 3 and all 3 are burning.

The clone is burning, turning black and very brittle, seems dry.

I'm spaying them, the cups are wet, they have heat, i cut the leaves back and they have co2. They are under a 600w cool blue. what mistakes would make a clone burn

the other clones are fine not rooting very fast but alive and not burning.


So far i have 3 of the original 4 transplanted into dirt starter cups and they are growing, seems slow though. I have clones taken after the first ones that are showing roots and the first ones are growing very slow and seem weak or stunted.

I've taken some stronger branches and they seem to do better than the first growth branches i took already. they certainly root faster, and are way healthier.

It seems to me if you start a plant from seed and take it's first weak branches for clones they will grow slow and be weaker. if you wait for 3rd or 4th branches or higher they are stronger and you will get a better clones that grows faster and healthier.

The stonger the branch the stonger the clone.

Question? Why did the top of the plants i took burn. I let them grow so i would have a long enough stem.

 

[RockyMountainHi]

What did you change?

edit:
I see a couple issues already - waz up with the big assed light? clones DON'T NEED LIGHT (ok, MUCH light) - or co2 till they have a ROOT SYSTEM. A good root system - then they have the tools to use the light and the co2.
How would you do in a marathon right after cutting off both legs? -- Cutting are not complete plants

I could reference you to my previous post, but why?

ohhh ok,

pH and relitive humidity and temprature all have direct affect on the plants - and if conditions are not close - your fighting an uphill battle. Shaded lighting can also help.