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sylvane.com has a clearance section i got my 1800 dehuey for 1500 because they had taken it out of the box for photos
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You probably meant sylvane.com!
Did you ever get/try that layflat duct for your Phoenix exhaust? (That's what that rectangular pop-off ring is for.)
I got a pair of Phoenix 200 MAX's (133ppd @ AHAM) for $1k a piece off craigslist, once. Guy had 4 he wanted to get rid of for $1.1k each. He really didn't want to go down in price, so I told him I'll take all 4 for $1k each, but I only have space to transport 2 at a time so I'll be back for the other 2. I felt like a Jew, but it worked.
Did you ever get/try that layflat duct for your Phoenix exhaust? (That's what that rectangular pop-off ring is for.)
I got a pair of Phoenix 200 MAX's (133ppd @ AHAM) for $1k a piece off craigslist, once. Guy had 4 he wanted to get rid of for $1.1k each. He really didn't want to go down in price, so I told him I'll take all 4 for $1k each, but I only have space to transport 2 at a time so I'll be back for the other 2. I felt like a Jew, but it worked.
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Poopy I would run two of the regular LG cheap units unless you got the cheese for the sante Fe. You prolly wouldn't regret the sante Fe purchase if Ur runnin 6k though.
Paying extra $$ up-front for quality equipment will save you (more like pay you back) money down the road in both equipment and utility costs. Especially if your utility costs are high. For instance, in CA/PG&E, it'd almost cost you more $$ to get a low-end consumer-portable unit in most cases even after just 1 cycle.
"Buy nice or buy twice", unless you straight up can't afford it.
Humidity is (very) oftentimes the most underrated key components of a room.
"Buy nice or buy twice", unless you straight up can't afford it.
Humidity is (very) oftentimes the most underrated key components of a room.
im in the same boat...humidity in my 10x10 is getting out of control...whats the best deal on a 80 pint dehuey.....or should i just get a 12k btu AC with dehuey combo...
I think the biggest portable consumer D/H is going to be a 70ppd (non-AHAM), unless I'm mistaken. Problem with the AC+DH combo is that it's going to:
1) exchange air, regardless of how nice a window unit or how many hoses the portable unit has
2) not be efficient, and with your utility company, it will likely cost more than buying a nice dehumi after one or two cycles
In your case, it's "buy nice or buy twice after paying more than twice after utility bills and then not being able to get much resale value from your crap equipment".
If there's one thing I don't regret at all in all of my growroom designs / purchases (and I've gone through a LOT of rooms & equipment), it'd be: split A/C's, high-efficiency ThermaStor D/H's, and running sealed rooms.
1) exchange air, regardless of how nice a window unit or how many hoses the portable unit has
2) not be efficient, and with your utility company, it will likely cost more than buying a nice dehumi after one or two cycles
In your case, it's "buy nice or buy twice after paying more than twice after utility bills and then not being able to get much resale value from your crap equipment".
If there's one thing I don't regret at all in all of my growroom designs / purchases (and I've gone through a LOT of rooms & equipment), it'd be: split A/C's, high-efficiency ThermaStor D/H's, and running sealed rooms.
Substantially cheaper, $700 than the Sante Fe models and supposedly work on par with them, this link isn't the cheapest out there either. I only used a santa fe before but going into a new room and eyeballing these real hard so will probably be able to rate them soon. Let us know what you decide.
http://www.hydrowholesale.com/Air-Conditioning-Units/Ideal-Air-Ideal-Air-100-Pint-Dehumidifier.asp
http://www.hydrowholesale.com/Air-Conditioning-Units/Ideal-Air-Ideal-Air-100-Pint-Dehumidifier.asp
OnTheWater
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commercial dehumidifier
Them ideal units only let you set em down to 40%.. for some that might be enough but I've had to set my dehu's down to 30 to maintain a 50-55% rh at times..
I'd give them some time before being a first.. I'm testing the 100 pint model currently
Them ideal units only let you set em down to 40%.. for some that might be enough but I've had to set my dehu's down to 30 to maintain a 50-55% rh at times..
I'd give them some time before being a first.. I'm testing the 100 pint model currently
organiclover
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i gotta santa fe compact and love it
its small - comes with hardware to hang from the ceiling
super energy efficient and does the job without a problem
it also has a prefilter which is nice
http://www.sylvane.com/santa-fe-compact-dehumidifier.html
its small - comes with hardware to hang from the ceiling
super energy efficient and does the job without a problem
it also has a prefilter which is nice
http://www.sylvane.com/santa-fe-compact-dehumidifier.html
I have a feeling that the Ideal-Air unit is NOT going to be comparable to a Santa Fe or Phoenix. Sneaking suspicion that the "100 pint" is simply yet another non-standardized (non-80F/60%) measurement designed at upping the labeled rating. I could be wrong but also looks like it has no intercooler or other technologies other than a standard coil so it is unlikely that it will be as efficient energy-wise in removing humidity. Looks like an OEM version of some other brand that I can't quite put my finger on right now.
I wouldn't buy one until someone can show either a better performance rating by the supplier/manufacturer or someone on the forums who knows what they're talking about and can tell the difference on performance reports back.
Just my views
and observations after having dealt with quite a wide range of "commercial" as well as "consumer" dehumidifiers.
I wouldn't buy one until someone can show either a better performance rating by the supplier/manufacturer or someone on the forums who knows what they're talking about and can tell the difference on performance reports back.
Just my views
and observations after having dealt with quite a wide range of "commercial" as well as "consumer" dehumidifiers.OnTheWater
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I'm not satisfied with the ideal unit.. The 100 pint and 2 small lg's wouldn't bring me near 60.. Added my Santa fe classic and I'm hovering at 50-55. I'm certain I can turn the knob on the Santa fe down some more and she will do her job
Looking into some heavy duty dri-eaz or some Phoenix max for next round.
I'm not satisfied with the ideal unit.. The 100 pint and 2 small lg's wouldn't bring me near 60.. Added my Santa fe classic and I'm hovering at 50-55. I'm certain I can turn the knob on the Santa fe down some more and she will do her job
Looking into some heavy duty dri-eaz or some Phoenix max for next round.
Stay away from Dri-Eaz unless you can find a superb deal on an AHAM-rated one. Many models will try to fool you with two different ratings, the higher rating being the more visible one on the box, etc, the AHAM rating to be found buried deep somewhere in the manual or on the Internet. Also look into the power consumption, as it will ultimately play a role in determining the total cost of ownership on that unit.
Check out jondon.com as well as eBay, they have pretty good deals on Phoenix LGR units especially on multiple units. Their "Ultra 340" is quite comparable in performance & features to the Phoenix HT MAX line (it looks almost identical, too), with only a slightly higher power draw per pint. Pretty decent value if top-of-the-line efficiency isn't a concern.
With the Phoenix and comparable units with the lay-flat duct support, I'd also pick up a roll of the 10" lay-flat duct. Close one end of it, and puncture some holes down the length of it to disperse the dry, heated air across the room rather than down a single fixed path. Unless you have a need to dry up the floor...
Check out jondon.com as well as eBay, they have pretty good deals on Phoenix LGR units especially on multiple units. Their "Ultra 340" is quite comparable in performance & features to the Phoenix HT MAX line (it looks almost identical, too), with only a slightly higher power draw per pint. Pretty decent value if top-of-the-line efficiency isn't a concern.
With the Phoenix and comparable units with the lay-flat duct support, I'd also pick up a roll of the 10" lay-flat duct. Close one end of it, and puncture some holes down the length of it to disperse the dry, heated air across the room rather than down a single fixed path. Unless you have a need to dry up the floor...
250wscrogger
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That's some good info grow nerd
Now I'm convinced it's worth it to spend the extra money and get a 110ppd santa fe... they're super efficient... only 6.4 amps!
Now I'm convinced it's worth it to spend the extra money and get a 110ppd santa fe... they're super efficient... only 6.4 amps!
OnTheWater
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commercial dehumidifier
I was looking to put a Lgr evolution in the room. I'll prolly have one in the front and one in the back.. Any experience with the dri-eaz evo models? Or one big 3500 model in the front by the AC return..
Thanks GN I'll check that site out and do some comparisons. I need a work horse not a house hold model as them lg's don't cut it
I was looking to put a Lgr evolution in the room. I'll prolly have one in the front and one in the back.. Any experience with the dri-eaz evo models? Or one big 3500 model in the front by the AC return..
Thanks GN I'll check that site out and do some comparisons. I need a work horse not a house hold model as them lg's don't cut it
No but I remember shopping for a pair of DH's and found that the Dri-Eaz, DrizAir, etc never stacked up in terms of watts/pint or $/ppd@AHAM compared to ThermaStor's.
Here's one of the 200 MAX's.
Fancy lids. I tried putting a 12" collar on it so I can direct more airflow from the top into the DH from my 12" scrubber fan. Didn't really help, I think the built-in blower is sized for optimal performance (speed/amount of airflow), but then again I didn't try that many combos in dialing it in. In the end I just ran with the lids off.
Here's one of the 200 MAX's.
Fancy lids. I tried putting a 12" collar on it so I can direct more airflow from the top into the DH from my 12" scrubber fan. Didn't really help, I think the built-in blower is sized for optimal performance (speed/amount of airflow), but then again I didn't try that many combos in dialing it in. In the end I just ran with the lids off.
Ive used the Ideal Air 100pint($700). I have used the Santa Fe Max Dry($1500) If I could do it all over again, I'd not get the Ideal and would own 2 Santa Fe Max Drys. Go Cheap, Buy Twice. About to order another Santa Fe... Plus the Santa Fe Max Drys move more water per kilowatt than any other residential dehu on the market (7.9 pints per kwh). Do that with your cheap dehues...
i heard that with the santa fe it doesnt go below 50 percent humidity? it just turns off until it creeps above 50...
also...instead of paying 100 bucks for that weird condensation pump...wouldnt it be easier/cheaper to just mount the dehuey ontop of a heavy duty tote with a 30 dollar water pump set up in it....i dont see the pumps weak 5 ft limitation being able to pump my water out..i gotta have more power to reach my drain.
also what kind of heat does the santa fe classic put off and how is it dealt with?
also...instead of paying 100 bucks for that weird condensation pump...wouldnt it be easier/cheaper to just mount the dehuey ontop of a heavy duty tote with a 30 dollar water pump set up in it....i dont see the pumps weak 5 ft limitation being able to pump my water out..i gotta have more power to reach my drain.
also what kind of heat does the santa fe classic put off and how is it dealt with?
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Dr. Buddington
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You can put your Santa Fe outside the room so the heat isn't an issue AND it saves space
GanjaIsMyLife
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^And it also dehumidify the outside space and not the space it would have had it been inside.
