Country should be Proud

[deidree barlow]

As a grower and user i think now about 60-70 per cent of the skunk smoked in this country is grown here,Now to me thats a big plus and to the country.Years back i would recon every penny i spent on the street scoring it the money would have probaly gone into some kind of Orginisation and put to use tryin to blow me to bits.I have to say by me growing it i am not funding ,which has to be a plus.So if they catch up with me and i do get caught i wouldnt give a fuck and would say so to the judge who would then proceed to fine me probaly to fund the fight against no logic what so ever.The money stays in England for a start, aint gettin jack shit off me so he can send it back in a missile form.or bomb me and many others.So all you growers out there stand up and be proud as you are doin what the country aint, i feel very strongly about this and would like to listen to other opinions many thanks deidree barlow

 

[ixnay007]

At the start of the hash money trail is a normal farmer (who could give a crap about blowing up anyone), then there were exporters/importers, who may or may have not had connections with terrorists (Howard Marks didn't, and he moved a lot), then to your local dealers, who also are fairly uninterested in blowing you up. Most of the weed came from Holland, don't think too many of em did it to buy bombs.

Nowadays it's grown locally, and just as long as they don't tax you, the money won't end up in bombs..

It is good that it's a flourishing domestic industry, hopefully one day it won't mean risking jail, no?

 

[oldpink]

think your caught up in the urban myth syndrome there
most of the hash years ago came from Pakistan and and morocco
back then we were not at war with these people and nor were they trying to blow us up
very little if any weed from these country's ever made it to the Uk
and any weed that did was normally imported from Thailand or mainland Europe (Holland)

 

[oldpink]

Howard Marks didn't, and he moved a lot

to be honest Howard did work with the IRA to smuggle hash into the Uk
so it could be said some drug money did go to the IRA therefor terrorist cause
but America was the IRA's biggest source of income so it can be said that the US helped try to blow you to bits
not the canna farmers in Morocco & Pakistan

OP

 

[ixnay007]

The catholic church had ties with the IRA too, so I guess Pope John Paul was trying to blow you up also

 

[oldpink]

yes both churches in Ireland "Helped" but not with funding as such
more as mediators and go betweens for the political party's
but recently it was disclosed a Priest was involved with bombings

 

[TBL420uk]

It makes no sence that you can can buy all the equipment you need from grow shops (we have 5 in my city) & buy the seeds you need in the high street (we have 3 shops selling seeds too) but if you start to grow the seeds with the equipment you bought you are breaking the law. It seems the government is happy to make money from shops selling equipment & seeds, but because they cant get their theiving hands on our medicine they spit the dummy & take you to court to get money out of you that way. Bastards!

 

[deidree barlow]

afghani

afghani

At the start of the hash money trail is a normal farmer (who could give a crap about blowing up anyone), then there were exporters/importers, who may or may have not had connections with terrorists (Howard Marks didn't, and he moved a lot), then to your local dealers, who also are fairly uninterested in blowing you up. Most of the weed came from Holland, don't think too many of em did it to buy bombs.

Nowadays it's grown locally, and just as long as they don't tax you, the money won't end up in bombs..

It is good that it's a flourishing domestic industry, hopefully one day it won't mean risking jail, no?

The modern history of Afghanistan is permeated with cannabis and conflict. The British ran the country for decades before they were kicked out in 1919, but the country was relatively stable during the reign of King Mohammad Zahir Shah, a pro-cannabis monarch who governed Afghanistan from 1933 until he was overthrown by a jealous relative in 1973.
According to reports from US spy agencies and Afghan sources in Holland, the King offered armed protection and horticultural advice to marijuana growers, encouraging them to increase their yield with modern fertilization techniques. The ruler's top aides were allegedly involved in overt hashish smuggling. DEA officials even allege that the King's private jet was used to smuggle tons of hashish to Italy and other European countries.
After King Zahir Shah was deposed, the US began sabotaging the Afghan cannabis industry, beginning a series of intermittent drug wars in Afghanistan. The US paid Afghan governments millions of dollars to eradicate cannabis crops and hash producers beginning in the mid-1970's. The elimination of ganja farming and hashish production cost lives and money, spurred production of opium poppies, and plunged a poor country further into poverty, and also resulted in numerous human rights violations.
By the time the country was invaded and occupied by the Soviet Union in 1979, the Afghan cannabis industry was a mere shadow of what it had been. Mediocre commercial Afghan hash, like the kind that Mahmoud smuggles, is still exported, but the glory days, when American pot pilgrims viewed Afghanistan as Mecca, are long gone

 

[deidree barlow]

hashish

hashish

think your caught up in the urban myth syndrome there
most of the hash years ago came from Pakistan and and morocco
back then we were not at war with these people and nor were they trying to blow us up
very little if any weed from these country's ever made it to the Uk
and any weed that did was normally imported from Thailand or mainland Europe (Holland)

People who we call ?the early Skunk pioneers' were experimenting with these Afghani seeds," says Bruining, whose Positronics seed bank was one of the earliest to offer a large menu of international marijuana seeds. "Afghan plants were highly sought after because they grew fast and short, were hardy, and produced huge tops full of resin. Some of them had the characteristic skunky smell and powerful body high that now identifies varieties known as ?Skunk.'"
Afghani hash was known for its sticky, resiny, unadulterated color and texture, its sweet, tangy taste, and its narcotic, dream-inducing high. Before US anti-drug pressure changed Afghanistan's cannabis policies in 1974, super-potent connoisseur hashish was available at teahouses inside Afghanistan, and as exported fingers, sticks, hooves, half moons, slabs and bricks that had a wide array of colors, tastes, and cannabinoid profiles.
Foreign cartels, including drug networks from North America, purchased tons of Afghan hashish and resin powder, using the substances to produce and market what came to be known as "honey oil," a highly-refined, amber-colored fluid that was often two to three times as potent as hashish.
Farmers in many parts of Afghanistan used primitive methods such as hand irrigation and fertilization techniques to produce resin glands for the burgeoning industry. It's not easy work, because most of the country is barren desert, with marginal soils, inadequate and unpredictable water supplies, dry, hot summers and harsh winters.
Huge fields of cannabis, surrounded by huts, barns and other buildings where resin powder was stored and processed, were seen near the southern city of Kandahar, in Central Afghanistan, and around the north-central city of Mazar-i-Sharif.
As this article is being written, US forces are using aerial bombardment and ground troops against Afghan Taliban government strongholds in Kabul, Kandahar and Mazar-i-Sharif. It may well be the first time that a global war machine has attacked a city that is so linked to marijuana that it has a variety of marijuana named after it ? as advertised in the Marc Emery seed catalog, "Mazar-i-Sharif" is a potent Afghani crossbred with a classic "Skunk #1" variety

 

[deidree barlow]

hash

hash

think your caught up in the urban myth syndrome there
most of the hash years ago came from Pakistan and and morocco
back then we were not at war with these people and nor were they trying to blow us up
very little if any weed from these country's ever made it to the Uk
and any weed that did was normally imported from Thailand or mainland Europe (Holland)

Dutch nerderhashYet, during the 1960's and early 70's, Afghani hash was considered the best available. Cultivation of squat, rugged, phat-leaved Indica plants, which cannabists now call "Hindu Kush," "Afghani," and "Hashplant" became prevalent during this era; some ethnobotanists say Afghanistan's earlier cannabis farmers mostly grew Sativa varieties.
According to cannabis pioneer Wernard Bruining, who created Holland's first coffee shop nearly 30 years ago, Western hippies collected Afghan marijuana seeds and spread them across the world in the 1970's, most notably to Northern California, where the seeds became genetic precursors for many of today's most popular cannabis cultivars.

 

[slicwilly2000]

See this is the crap that happens. World is peaceful and stable when pot is consumed and sold. USA goes in and creates conflict and we have the world we know today where pot is illegal and demonized. You want world peace? That's a world that grows and smokes cannabis.

Slic.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

haha wow thats crazy...US anti marijuana efforts directly resulted in an increase of opium production and heroin use, which coincides with the 1970s-80s surge in heroin junkies....this country is so corrupt!

 

[EddieShoestring]

all that history is great-but it doesn't address OP's point that the vast majority of the hash imported to UKPLC in the past came from Morrocco and Pakistan-also India-Lebanon-Nepal-Turkey and Afghanistan.

Years back i would recon every penny i spent on the street scoring it the money would have probaly gone into some kind of Orginisation and put to use tryin to blow me to bits

Who? The Baarder Meinhoff Group, the RedArmyFaction?
On pride in the UK situation:
of course the exponential growth of domestic canna production is a good thing. Like buying your veg from a local farmer-it keeps the cash moving around the local economy and stimulates new businesses and services in the area (seed co's, kit, clone vendors, garden centres, nute&additive co's, hardware etc)
BUT
overall the canna scene in the UK is sooo appalling that i don't think national pride is in order. The general quality is so low that if you presented say, anAmerican with UK street weed they would laugh at you. Same with the Dutch-Germans-French. Same with just about everybody.
Also -undersupply is a problem in the UK-that's why prices are jumping. There are simply not enough people/crews growing on any scale to satisfy the market

anyway the English don't really go for national pride in a big way-do we? It's all a bit embarissing isn't it?

eddieS

 

[PistilPete]

Right now in the US, the majority of the commercially produced and imported weed does in fact support some pretty vile mexican and south american trafficking organizations. So far, they're not trying to blow "us" up, but they are doing a pretty fucking good job of killing each other and plenty of their country mates off.

 

[ddrew]

"If you buy weed on the street you're funding terrorism" you know who wants you to believe that? The same people that say it's a gateway drug, and has no medicinal value, etc... The United States Government.

The percentage of money from weed sales that is actually used to fund terrorism is infinitesimally small.

 

[BOSCO]

"If you buy weed on the street you're funding terrorism" you know who wants you to believe that? The same people that say it's a gateway drug, and has no medicinal value, etc... The United States Government.

The percentage of money from weed sales that is actually used to fund terrorism is infinitesimally small.

Ddrew bro it depends where you live.

Over here in Ireland republican terrorist groups DO generate revenue from drugs, either by selling them or demanding protection money from dealers.

Depending on which country weed/cannabis generated revenue can and does fund terrorism, Afghanistan (taliban) and Columbia(farc) would be 2 good examples.

 

[deidree barlow]

bin laden

bin laden

"If you buy weed on the street you're funding terrorism" you know who wants you to believe that? The same people that say it's a gateway drug, and has no medicinal value, etc... The United States Government.

The percentage of money from weed sales that is actually used to fund terrorism is infinitesimally small.

So you tellin me Bin laden stayin away from a very profitable product easy to grow and very expensive i think not i really do,I know he produces a mountain of heroin but he cant sell mountains at once then another as supply will outdo Demand so to much =less price they control amounts entered as to not mess with the prices of heroin,you can move mountains skunk as practically socially acceptable why wouldnt he however small the money was its not so small now give me a reason why he wouldnt

 

[deidree barlow]

At the end of the day even a small amount of explosives is enough to cause Mayhem in any City One Bomb is to many...........

 

[ixnay007]

Ddrew bro it depends where you live.

Over here in Ireland republican terrorist groups DO generate revenue from drugs, either by selling them or demanding protection money from dealers.

Depending on which country weed/cannabis generated revenue can and does fund terrorism, Afghanistan (taliban) and Columbia(farc) would be 2 good examples.

The taliban grow heroin, weed is a pain in the ass to grow in afghanistan, long time from planted to harvest (opium poppies take a lot less time) needs a lot of water (afghanistan is rather dry), and poppy crops don't get ruined if you don't have only females..

Colombia, and the FARC get their money from cocaine (and some opium), gram for gram, it's a much more profitable business than weed.

 

[ixnay007]

So you tellin me Bin laden stayin away from a very profitable product easy to grow and very expensive i think not i really do,I know he produces a mountain of heroin but he cant sell mountains at once then another as supply will outdo Demand so to much =less price they control amounts entered as to not mess with the prices of heroin,you can move mountains skunk as practically socially acceptable why wouldnt he however small the money was its not so small now give me a reason why he wouldnt

A bit of punctuation would make your posts a lot more comprehensible..

He wouldn't sell weed because weed requires a long time from planting to harvest (something that requires stability in terms of the places you're growing, and it's hard to keep the area secure), it requires a lot of water (afghanistan has a fairly low average rain fall), and other crops are more valuable.

Plus, it's a lot easier to produce and transport a kilo of opium/heroin than it is to produce a kilo of weed (which they don't export) or hash (which requires a lot more work, water and time to produce).

Hash was produced in quantity in afghanistan when things were peaceful. Some people remember afghani hash, but that ended in the 80's when the russians started the long cycle of misery there.