Pre 1937 stone.

[ShroomDr]

I thought it was so powerful that it made white women sleep with black guys. Jazz music and dancing, heavens no! Its the devils weed!



-H J Anslinger

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FWIW this is an actual quote

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US,and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
-Harry J. Anslinger

 

[jm420]

FWIW this is an actual quote

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US,and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
-Harry J. Anslinger

LOL puts my wife to sleep,I wonder what asslinger would have said about crack

 

[WasntMe]

you can ask someone who was actually there..... let me introduce you to my friend Louis .... you may know him as Satchmo .... an hell yes, the white ladies loved him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80eALKKFyIQ

 

[hunt4genetics]

FWIW this is an actual quote

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US,and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others."
-Harry J. Anslinger

Thanks for adding that quote ShroomDr. It reveals what the politics of the plant was back then. I wonder if people realized that this marijuana was the same plant that was in many patent medicines that they grew up on.

peace.

great comments everyone thanks.

 

[WasntMe]

and here is some entertainment from straight up 1933 ... with Cab Calloway, one of Louis protégés, Cab's orchestra and a little temptress called Betty Boop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoJkxNa6v14&feature=related

Hell yeah I'm a Viper!

 

[Bi0hazard]

It was definitely Harry Anslinger

They should name a strain after the dickhead politician that attacked our beloved flower ,wish i could remember his name ,it was on the history channel recently.
but i think i have to agree with the mexican weed being the shit back then,Didn't high Times do an article about how todays weed was bred for potency and yeild versus weed of pre 1960 where it was just grown and sold?

I really think Nancy Reagan should get a big "thank you" from all of us,American born "home growers".If it wasn't for "The WAR ON Drugs" we would prably still rely on the mexican brick weed.I do have to admit I miss the old golds and reds from the day


Legalize drugs and tax religion,then we can say the recession is over

 

[designer]

They have a may '79 High Times. (the one with a devil on the cover) that has an article about harlem smoke scene specifically during 1937 ironically.

It's titled "Confessions of a Viper: Harlem's High Heydays" and it can be had for about $5 on ebay. Its a good article.

There was very little pot being grown in the US at that time. Pretty much all of it was mexican, and a little caribbean.

For the most part the pot he describes is basically the same as it was when the hippies found it.

And back then it was Sativa. Some of it was mind blowing and some of it not. Though you have to assume that just like today the growers tried to grow with seeds from their best. It was a long time ago, but farmers still understood about genetics. The worst things that happens from imported weed is compression and the way that it is being transported. Then how long and where it is being stored (a year is not unreasonable in dusty, poorly ventilated places with farm animals and the like). Perhaps being mixed with males and stems didn't help either.

 

[grasspass]

the 50's

the 50's

Don't know about the 30's, but my brother had a friend that grew up in the Kansas City slums in the 50's . He said weed was very good and cost 5 dollars for about an ounce.

 

[simos]

From what I understand, the period from 1840 to 1940 saw the development of some truly exceptional Cannabis, a golden age of medicinal varieties, if you will. Hell, Cannabis sativa products were available in myriad forms at every pharmacy.

It was during this period that many of the strains that became famous Mexican and Colombian landraces were introduced from Southeast Asia.

Legal farms, many in subtropical areas perfectly suited for the task, produced massive amounts of medical cannabis for the pharmaceutical industry. Farmers grew out millions of plants and selectively bred for medicine and potency. They did real breeding back then - careful selection from vast numbers of plants - in contrast to all this no-skill, unstable feminized trash we're inundated with at present. We're talking about a scale that the grandmasters of modern breeding like Neville, Shanti, DJ, and Steve never even approached. People like to think we've somehow made dramatic leaps in breeding and agricultural techniques, when the basics of artificial selection have been understood for more than 10,000 years. IMO, the biggest change since 1937 has been the introduction of and hybridization with so many indica lines.

I would LOVE to try those sativa strains of yore, and would wager that many of them were far superior to much of the modern garbage out there. The gene pool is getting homogenized to a dangerous level these days, and it's the height of arrogance to think that there wasn't great cannabis out there prior to criminalization.

 

[MacHush]

simos you are correct, but exaggerating.

they were not sofisticated breeders. they were farmers, who'd been farming since the beginning of time.
what is meant to grow, will grow. what is weak, why let it fertilize the strong?
plant breeding and selection has and always will be (in long term ag-based cultures) a VERY common sense approach.

one could argue, however, that the common sense approach is truly superior

"The gene pool is getting homogenized to a dangerous level these days, and it's the height of arrogance to think that there wasn't great cannabis out there prior to criminalization. "

that i will agree with !!!!

 

[simos]

simos you are correct, but exaggerating.

Guilty as charged, you got me , I'm prone to the occasional rant... founded in fact... mostly, lol

 

[designer]

It is true though. Farmers of every crop on earth grew the seeds from the best. Whether it is sweater apples, prettier tulips or stronger weed. And if it is not illegal they had a lot to pick from. How many plants can any of the famous breeders reasonably use?

 

[Bi0hazard]

I wonder how many cannabinoids like CBD, CBN, and others were present in the pure landraces from the 1800's and early 1990's as well as their bred strains/phenos..

That would be interesting to look into, to see if some of them have been bred out of the majority of the most available current gene pools...

-Bi0hazard

 

[hunt4genetics]

It is true though. Farmers of every crop on earth grew the seeds from the best. Whether it is sweater apples, prettier tulips or stronger weed. And if it is not illegal they had a lot to pick from. How many plants can any of the famous breeders reasonably use?

I agree, If the plant is legal, growers will choose from a bigger population.

That leads me to believe that there are certain unique highs that were around in the 1930's that are not around today.

I have heard of the connection between weed and Jazz. The jazz singer on weed experiences a "time slow down" effect which allows them to improvise inbetween notes and beats.

Has anyone felt that effect with post 1937 weed? Was that effect bred out for yeild and potency?

peace.

 

[Rabbi Reefer]

Louis Armstrong, "Pops" to his friends, truly loved his reefer.
His home in Queens, New York is a museum....just think, someday they could possibly sell Satchmo Joints in the gift shop.

 

[designer]

Louis Armstrong, "Pops" to his friends, truly loved his reefer.
His home in Queens, New York is a museum....just think, someday they could possibly sell Satchmo Joints in the gift shop.

True, they could find seeds in his sofa

 

[Hoover_lungz]

My ancestors have been smoking ganja ever since it was smoked or eaten. Himalayan mountain have tastey bushes

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

"Some of my finest hours have been spent on my back veranda,
smoking hemp and observing as far as my eye can see."
- Thomas Jefferson

"When you return to this mundane sphere from your visionary world, you would seem to leave a Neapolitan spring for a Lapland winter - to quit paradise for earth - heaven for hell! Taste the hashish, guest of mine - taste the hashish!" - Alexander Dumas quote on Marijuana

 

[Mr Pink]

"The gene pool is getting homogenized to a dangerous level these days, and it's the height of arrogance to think that there wasn't great cannabis out there prior to criminalization. "

that i will agree with !!!!

Somehow I am a lot more worried about other plants genepools than cannabis'. Cannabis is being cultivated unchecked in quite a few remote places still, and hasn't been looked into by real pros willing to make money yet. It being illegal in most countries is actually probably protecting it for now, while someday organized people with legal money will start controlling its production big time and slowly eradicate diversity.
But we had no qualms when we abdicated diversity for everything else, so although the above quote might come a bit too early it will prove true soon enough.

 

[trichrider]

just when i thought i'd heared it all...the pot has gotten better in the last hundred years.
funny, i recollect vividly how high i got off some Oaxacan or Panama Red back in the sixties, doesn't seem to have gotten any better than that. Fifty years ago; can't seem to accept that another thirty years would have made much of a difference in the quality back then. They weren't breeding for potency back then because they didn't need to, the evil weed was already supreme genetics...I mean being the devil's weed and all that.