Best Hoarded Strains

[jiggywhompus]

People claiming ownership over a piece of plant and hoarding something they didnt even breed is a fucking joke.

Get over yourselves and pass it out...spread the love.

If your grow skills are tight you dont need any special genetics to produce a product that is above the rest.

 

[headband 707]

There will always be those who have stuff and those without. For those with stuff who put in years of hard work and sleepless nights; I say good for you keep what you need and share the rest.

For those without, put in some work (more than a 5 yrs @ 6 crops a year), dedication, grow out as many seeds as you can (hundreds) to find that one special one that allows you to trade for an elite. Its what I did. I started with a Blue clone I traded my bro for all my dutch/bagseeds and I grew out a few dozen packs of beans and found 3 or 4 things worth trading that got me in the club.

Some of the so called hoarded strains didnt get into my garden until I was friends with people for YEARS....8 years worth of friendship for a few things.

The whole entitlement thing is a joke, you dot get trust, you earn it. Same thing with genetics, you dont just say "I grow pot" and they magically drop from the sky.

Someone mentioned that when good genetics are grown poorly it tarnishes the rep. I will vouch for that firsthand. I cant tell you how many times I had someone come in to the dispensary and say "Oh Ive had that before from another place, it sucked." then they open my jars and step back "OH it didnt smell/look anything like that, let me try yours." Then a week later they come back and from that point on they only want that one specific hard to find strain because it was grown perfectly AND it is ACTUALLY the real deal cut. So many fakes floating around med states it is almost certain 7/10 times the cut you got aint the cut its supposed to be.

AND yes there is a lot of hype that surrounds many strains. BUT when you find those elites that match the taste/ high you r body chemistry likes, it becomes hard to find strains that match up. I can go a week without herb and smoke some regular old blueberry and it gets me quite high for a couple of hours. I can go a week without herb and then smoke some Og Kush and I nearly black out and am fucked up for the better part of 5 hrs. There is a difference.

LOL okay Moonshine you and I will have to agree to disagree on this one BUT lets go over a couple of things you just said shall we LOL..>> Bro with all do respect>If you knew me you would know I have no entittlment issues about bud you either have it or you don't.
Then there is the whole club thing and don't we all know this well. The bullshit weak shitty strains they claim are Purple Kush when it's some weak crap. All growers and anyone with any brains knows one cut is different from the other. If you can't bring your bud to a Dispensary and out shine the others you just can't. If the owner is so stupid he doesn't see this then it's on him not you. Ignorance will always shine even when we think ppl should know better they really don't,, you have to prove it to them. Then they say "Oh I want whatever Moonshine is doing as he is the man.". lol..
I also know that what I think is shit others love ,,nothing you can do about that one either.
I bought White Widow seeds because of all the hype and that shit was weak and shitty. Everyone has their own idea of what they think is good .Hype in this business it off the hook BS.
Perhaps I would try what you think is killer and say" nah thats not for me"> You did mention you can go for a week without bud ,,,This is somthing I don't do lol peace out Headband707

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Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of the universe; your playing small doesn't serve the world. There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so other people won't feel insecure around you. We are born to make manifest the glory of all that's within us. It's not just in some of us, it's in everyone.

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[vaped]

This is a touchy subject. Many on IC think it is wrong to make a living off cannabis. It makes me wonder where they got their herb before they grew. Now lets look at this like the auto industry. If Dodge designs a new car do they then send the blue prints to ford no they dont. They might give the plans to their partner Plymouth so they can make a copy but thats it. We also have the trust issue. If a friend gives me a cut and says nobody else has this well maybe the strain getting circulated is his choice and you need to honor the promise. I keep like 3 strains around all the time as traders and helper outers for people but as for me giving them my bread and butter makers its not gonna happen. Like Krunch said Haters gonna hate. Not everyone in this game is a free loving hippie.

 

[draco]

i selected a pheno form just six females that i got in a ten pack of seeds. that pheno is bomb and i haven't had anything as good for decades!!

what's available (clones) at the local centers is second tier; nobody seems to want to let go of the fire. this is to be expected in a market environment. that game is for money only. they will NEVER see my cut...

on the other hand, IF i had a trusted friend i would pass him one for sure.

money is at the heart of hoarding. there are those who are naturally selfish of course...


i would say that (around here) if you don't have connections, forget about the elite clone. get yourself some proven seeds and pick the pheno.

$.02

 

[Guest3498]

If you are holding on to something tight because you're the only guy in town with it and are making bank (on a local level), I think it's perfectly acceptable to protect your own wallet and hoard it. I know I would to a certain extent...

If you are one of these people who just shows off cuts online to boost their ego and refuses to share/trade with anyone... well, that's just pathetic.

 

[vaped]

If you are holding on to something tight because you're the only guy in town with it and are making bank (on a local level), I think it's perfectly acceptable to protect your own wallet and hoard it. I know I would to a certain extent...

If you are one of these people who just shows off cuts online to boost their ego and refuses to share/trade... well, that's just pathetic.

I can feel that. Most of the stains that i consider to be my best were bag seed popped by a close friend. I dont even see where hyping them on I C would help my cause. They are just some original smoke that no one in the area can compete with. I like the fact they are unique and thats about it. I try not to say they are the best in the I C community because we have amazing growers on this site but I can say my boy has collected the best set of genetics in a 6 county area i give him props for that.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

OKAY WTF????LOL LOL not spreading quality cannabis ,just giving the genetics a bad name LOL are you shitting me?? Really and what do you think that BAD NAME IS ?? LOL Now this thread is fucking funny if ppl didn't believe that horse SHIT!!!!!!
Do tell me all about the bad name or the weakening of the fantastic stock?? PLEASE no more horse shit lol.. I might be a pothead but I'm not a moron .
Please don't go on about jealousy either what the fuck do I care I have never even had this so-called dank bud so it's no skin off my ass one way or the other lol...If you have come this far in life and you can't see the wrong in hoarding cannabis then bro I can't help ya either peace out Headband707

I can name a bunch of strains around here that were given a bad name from bad growers. then when a good batch comes through, people just hear the name and say they don't want it. at least one is an elite clone that was passed around Overgrow, Bubba Dutch's Super Silver Haze, which was selected by him from over 100 female mr. nice SSH seeds. One bad batch made it so the best growers around here couldn't get rid of their top shelf SSH.

 

[Bulldog11]

I can name a bunch of strains around here that were given a bad name from bad growers. then when a good batch comes through, people just hear the name and say they don't want it. at least one is an elite clone that was passed around Overgrow, Bubba Dutch's Super Silver Haze, which was selected by him from over 100 female mr. nice SSH seeds. One bad batch made it so the best growers around here couldn't get rid of their top shelf SSH.

That is the most retarded thing I have ever heard. If people around you base the quality of weed by a name and name only then why are you working with them? Or better yet, grow bammer and call it something good, maybe they will pay for that?

Good herb sells itself. If you have the best herb in the area then you will always have customers. BTW, I have NEVER seen good SSH not sell, I call bullshit.

 

[growshopfrank]

tripplenode buddy wanted a k for cut

 

[Hammerhead]

Im not sure you guys are understanding what TMB is saying. If I give someone a cut that is good and they grow it like crap and spread it around as SSH some of the people will think the strain itself is bogus when if fact the grower did not know what they where doing. I agree with that. I have seen cuts that where extremely good and given out to peeps that did not have the experience to grow them properly. They turned out like mids. It surprises me that more of you have not seen this.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

call bullshit all you want, I have no reason to lie. when people get a bad batch of something, and then don't see the next batch, you just tell them what you have, no matter how fire it is, they don't even want to look at it.

it's the same as someone eating at a shitty restaurant and thinking they don't like a dish because it's prepared poorly. it may turn them off to ever trying it again, properly prepared at a better restaurant. they may love it there, but they are WAY less likely to try something they've already had a bad experience with.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

watch and learn amigo.

watch and learn amigo.

There will always be those who have stuff and those without. For those with stuff who put in years of hard work and sleepless nights; I say good for you keep what you need and share the rest.

For those without, put in some work (more than a 5 yrs @ 6 crops a year), dedication, grow out as many seeds as you can (hundreds) to find that one special one that allows you to trade for an elite. Its what I did. I started with a Blue clone I traded my bro for all my dutch/bagseeds and I grew out a few dozen packs of beans and found 3 or 4 things worth trading that got me in the club.

Some of the so called hoarded strains didnt get into my garden until I was friends with people for YEARS....8 years worth of friendship for a few things.

The whole entitlement thing is a joke, you dot get trust, you earn it. Same thing with genetics, you dont just say "I grow pot" and they magically drop from the sky.

Someone mentioned that when good genetics are grown poorly it tarnishes the rep. I will vouch for that firsthand. I cant tell you how many times I had someone come in to the dispensary and say "Oh Ive had that before from another place, it sucked." then they open my jars and step back "OH it didnt smell/look anything like that, let me try yours." Then a week later they come back and from that point on they only want that one specific hard to find strain because it was grown perfectly AND it is ACTUALLY the real deal cut. So many fakes floating around med states it is almost certain 7/10 times the cut you got aint the cut its supposed to be.

AND yes there is a lot of hype that surrounds many strains. BUT when you find those elites that match the taste/ high you r body chemistry likes, it becomes hard to find strains that match up. I can go a week without herb and smoke some regular old blueberry and it gets me quite high for a couple of hours. I can go a week without herb and then smoke some Og Kush and I nearly black out and am fucked up for the better part of 5 hrs. There is a difference.

you just dont get it. it isnt about entitlement or being conservative or liberal dont start with all that bullshit. it is about over growing, and advancing the plant.

I suggest you watch "the botany of desire". it may help you understand what im mean. the whole documentary not just the weed part! lol

http://www.pbs.org/thebotanyofdesire/

think about it this way. dj shorts blue berry is known to be one of the best tastiest strains ever created. it still holds up. it has been grown by thousands of people, and I guarantee you 70 percent of them grew it badly, but you dont hear people saying dj short bb is shit do you? nope.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

call bullshit all you want, I have no reason to lie. when people get a bad batch of something, and then don't see the next batch, you just tell them what you have, no matter how fire it is, they don't even want to look at it.

it's the same as someone eating at a shitty restaurant and thinking they don't like a dish because it's prepared poorly. it may turn them off to ever trying it again, properly prepared at a better restaurant. they may love it there, but they are WAY less likely to try something they've already had a bad experience with.

if they are too damn stupid to tell the difference between poorly grown weed and well grown weed then they are too stupid to actually care what strain it is and you could tell them anything. also most bad growers will just tend to tell people its just some good herb they got, so they dont ruin the name until they get it right.

 

[headband 707]

I can name a bunch of strains around here that were given a bad name from bad growers. then when a good batch comes through, people just hear the name and say they don't want it. at least one is an elite clone that was passed around Overgrow, Bubba Dutch's Super Silver Haze, which was selected by him from over 100 female mr. nice SSH seeds. One bad batch made it so the best growers around here couldn't get rid of their top shelf SSH.

No matter how many times we go over this one the truth will always remain the same. That truth is that we are all different and what I love you may hate,,Can't please all the people all the time ,nore should you try.All this horse shit about what is good and what isn't when we all know Grade A+ Grade A, Grade B and so on. Again were not morons and if someone can bring it on they do. If your lucky enough to be the one to find that special baby then the next step is obviously up to you. I'm sure you will make the right decision in the end.lol.. peace out Headband707

 

[Moonshine*]

you just dont get it. it isnt about entitlement or being conservative or liberal dont start with all that bullshit. it is about over growing, and advancing the plant.

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Once again Ill state, Ive given out thousands of cuts and seeds. Ive advanced the plant a lot more than 99.99% of growers. I get it a lot more than most.

No one said anything about being liberal or conservative. Dont pull BS ideas or quotes out of the air.

Im one of the few highly sought out legal professional Medical Marijuana growers in the US. I think I get it.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

im almost sorry I brought up the DHK now. seems to have turned this thread into a pissing contest instead of a strain naming one.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

Once again Ill state, Ive given out thousands of cuts and seeds. Ive advanced the plant a lot more than 99.99% of growers. I get it a lot more than most.

No one said anything about being liberal or conservative. Dont pull BS ideas or quotes out of the air.

Im one of the few highly sought out legal professional Medical Marijuana growers in the US. I think I get it.

when you started talking about entitlement I thought that's where you were going. my bad if i misinterpreted. i just do not want this thread to somehow become political and be ruined. lol

I am sure you hand out the plant a lot. but watch the documentary and get back to me. it is a good one

 

[kstampy]

Once again Ill state, Ive given out thousands of cuts and seeds. Ive advanced the plant a lot more than 99.99% of growers. I get it a lot more than most.

No one said anything about being liberal or conservative. Dont pull BS ideas or quotes out of the air.

Im one of the few highly sought out legal professional Medical Marijuana growers in the US. I think I get it.

You can't blame the guy for making the thread fun to read Moonshine!

 

[TickleMyBalls]

when you started talking about entitlement I thought that's where you were going. my bad if i misinterpreted. i just do not want this thread to somehow become political and be ruined. lol

I am sure you hand out the plant a lot. but watch the documentary and get back to me. it is a good one

i'm sure most people have seen or read botany of desire. i see no connection between the documentary and your stance on spreading all special genetics to everyone. the point of botany desire is how the 4 plant species have managed to proliferate themselves by appealing to human's senses. basically "tricking" us into spreading them around the world, and breeding with them to improve the strength of their genes.

do the tulip breeders, potato farmers, or apple farmers give away their special lines of product to their competitors? no they don't. they produce the product and spread that around the world.

cannabis is the same way, certain strains you have to prove yourself to get in on. no one is going to give away a strain to someone who could taint the name. nor would they want to give it out to a competitor. just like any industry, the smart thing is to exploit any advantage you have.

 

[RugerBaby]

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My name is Ruger, and I would like to be best friends with Moonshine.. tis' all...carry on..