75% Failure Rate on My Nirvana Bubblelicious, What About You?

[*Lola*]

I got a pack of the new Nirvana Bubblelicious. I got 75% no shows when I planted them.

I am not looking for tips on how to grow, just wondering if any others who ordered this strain are experiencing the high failure rates of germination that I am?

I have never had any trouble with Nirvana strains in the past, and I feel that this must be a bad seed lot.

anyone else having trouble with them>?

 

[mugenbao]

anyone else having trouble with them

Goodness, I hope not, I just ordered a pack last week!

I don't intend to run them until cycle after next though, so I can't provide any input on the topic, but I will be following to see what others say.

PS: I got mine from SeedBoutique, is that where you got yours?

 

[*Lola*]

Well yes that is where I got them. Not that I am blaming SB or anything.

I am positive it wasn't anything I did. I've popped a bunch of Nirvana beans without losing a single bean, but shoot. 75% non germination is not good.

Aat least I have one girl from the pack. It smells nice and bubble gummy, week 3 of bloom

 

[mugenbao]

Well yes that is where I got them. Not that I am blaming SB or anything.

I wouldn't think SB would be to blame, but I was curious if it was a batch issue...

I am positive it wasn't anything I did. I've popped a bunch of Nirvana beans without losing a single bean, but shoot. 75% non germination is not good.

Aat least I have one girl from the pack. It smells nice and bubble gummy, week 3 of bloom

I hope I get one like that. I haven't smoked any bubblegum in about fifteen years, and I really do miss it. Good times

 

[foliohattu]

i bought five-pack from nirvana shop last summer and have had 100% success. i still have 2 of them as bonsai mums. melikes!

 

[bendoslendo]

I've popped 5 recently. 4/5 germed. 1 was mutant that wouldn't form budsites correctly and was culled. So I've got 3 a few weeks into flower. Looking good but no hint of bubblegum yet. Fingers crossed

 

[Baba Ku]

9 times out of 10 no pops are more a problem during germination than with the seeds themselves. People can be "certain" is isn't anything they did, but that is nothing but pride and ego speaking.

It may well not be something the grower actually did to cause a low germ rate, but there can be so many things come into play. For one, the pH of a peat or coco puck can be off, and cause seedlings to not pop well. Many times you will see them just start to crack...touch the medium...and stop in their tracks with no continuation. Some may appear to never have popped at all, but they probably had the shell casing slightly opened and simply stopped, which allows the rot to start.

Folks who use paper towels can find problems even with all white towels. Many things are used for the process and paper towels are not sold as sterile and consistent. They are only sold to wipe up messes.

Empirical evidence should always be taken with a grain of salt. The way I see it, if I have a line that doesn't pop for some reason, and I see just ONE report of others that do get them to pop, I try to change things up and use another method because I am fairly certain the problem is more on my end than anything else. It may or may not be something I "did, but more something that the methods I am using could cause that is out of my sight or knowledge.

A show of hand on no pops usually does more harm than not, as breeders often get bad raps from a whole room full of people who had other issues they aren't considering.

 

[funkymonkey]

I only got one out of 10 Bubblicious to pop a few months back. It turned out to be a really nice male so I crossed him to my Jack Herer cutting and have some of them growing out now.

 

[starwatcher]

Starting seeds is like the easiest thing in the world to do. Saying its growers fault 9 times outa 10 is kinda false, unless they are a noob. There can be multiple variables involved. Sterile/old seeds being the main culprit. Here in it is up to the breeder to resolve these issues.

 

[*Lola*]

OK thanks for the reports. Let's limit them to the following:

New Pack of Nirvana Bubblicious (with the buddha on the package)
and
Purchased from the Boo.

once again, I don't want people to tell me how beans are popped, just looking for people who have purchased this product to compare germ rates with, that's all

I am confidant in my ability to germinate beans. The failure of an entire pack of beans to pop concerns me.

 

[Baba Ku]

75% turns into the entire pack. Wow.
Sorta shades my confidence in you to tell it like it really is.

I hate these threads, because no matter what...it is not the seeds fault 9 times out of 10...and with some questionable info that ratio goes much higher.

 

[*Lola*]

75% turns into the entire pack. Wow.
Sorta shades my confidence in you to tell it like it really is.

I hate these threads, because no matter what...it is not the seeds fault 9 times out of 10...and with some questionable info that ratio goes much higher.

1) see first post, no grow advice requested
2) see response to your first post, where I politely reminded you that I did not request noob info on seed germing.
3) Since you are obviously retarded, I will state it more plainly for you.

Go Away Baba Ku, I don't want to see you, trolling in my thread. I am gonna scoop you up and bop you on the head.

BOP!

(And Down Came the Troll Fairy & She Said)

Go Away Baba Ku Ku, I don't wanna see you
Trolling in Lola's Thread,
Then she bopped him on the head.

 

[MacHush]

lol, dont get to defensive or anything Lola....

babaku is only half right, IMO .... half the time it is the ego and experience level of the grower.

look at KC Brains... every pack i've had i've had 80-100% germ ratess, yet people still pass around 8 year old info about shitty germ rates *eye roll*

personally, i would consider 75% failure, to be a waste of an entire pack

but seriously babaku --- if the PH and sterility of paper towels are THAT big of an issue for a seed to germ... if any extremely Minor factor is a Major issue,,, then they are BITCH seeds that have obviously been breed indoors for Way to long, and probably don't deserve to grow, for sake of the species.
wtf is the point of growing a plant, that can't even take care of itself / germinate its own damn seeds?

never grown bubblicious, sorry.

 

[Baba Ku]

1) see first post, no grow advice requested
2) see response to your first post, where I politely reminded you that I did not request noob info on seed germing.
3) Since you are obviously retarded, I will state it more plainly for you.

Go Away Baba Ku, I don't want to see you, trolling in my thread. I am gonna scoop you up and bop you on the head.

BOP!

(And Down Came the Troll Fairy & She Said)

Go Away Baba Ku Ku, I don't wanna see you
Trolling in Lola's Thread,
Then she bopped him on the head.

Don't worry, Lola. I highly doubt that I will be visiting any more of your threads. I mean, who wants to be disrespected and lied to?
You are calling me names and being very rude, not to mention you lied.

Riight off the bat, Nirvana provides 10 in a pack...75% would be 7-1/2 seeds that didn't pop. Did you have half a seed that grew? Then you went from 75% to the entire pack...seems someone is confused...or not telling it straight.

In fact, I will have a hard time buying anything I see you post in the future. Typical behavior though...for those who aren't telling it straight.

Trolling is when someone follows another around on the internet...you can wager high coin that I won't be following any of your offerings. And my one submission was hardly trolling.
Just want to be sure you understand these names you throw around...names like retarded. I think I need to stop now, because straightening you out on that one would probably hurt your feelings.
Let' just say that it is very uncool to use such people for your petty name calling. I would be FAR more inclined to put my trust in a retarded person than I would you, hon.

 

[*Lola*]

rofl.

My post count is low, but that don't make me a noob

Here's the germ rates for last germ run that I had.
3/3 Pine Tar Kush (tomhill) popped
3/3 Sourbubble (420BeanCo)
4/5 Blueberry (DJShort)
2/10 Bubblicious (Nirvana)
8/8 Cali Orange x SB (420 Bean Co)
5/5 True Blueberry (DJ Short)
4/4 AK 48 (Nirvana)

so since I usually have 99-100% germ rates with methods I use, when I get a pack that won't pop tails, just sits there and do nothing, it is time to ask the multitudes and see who is having trouble.

Personally, I would appreciate a warning on a potential problem even were I a breeder

Mark my words, this batch has germination issues!

 

[VagPuncher]

Is the seed mooch back or is this a new Lola?

 

[Sam the Caveman]

I had a few seeds from a pack that wouldn't pop, so I put the planted seeds on a heat mat and they eventually popped.

 

[mdk ktm]

i have ALMOST always had 100% females with nirvana. I have grown like 5 of their strains, and 1 pack of fem PPP was pure males. So I think something went wrong with the plant the seeds came off of? The plants were beast though.


edit: shit I thought you were talking about the m/f ratio.... I have always had germination rates above 95% every time.

 

[*Lola*]

Is the seed mooch back or is this a new Lola?

does it SOUND like a new Lola? or the old one?

If Rezdog don't have a problem with me then I don't care what your opinion is. For months I have been in touch with Bakerman and Rez via email, and I have not been notified of any problems that either have had with me.


p.s. yes, I had one seed pop a tail but did not have stength to do any more so I counted it as 1/2 germ in the tally and thus 75% not the 80% that I should have really said.

 

[VagPuncher]

Mooch on.