1st attempt at micro-bare bulb-vert with 150w hps and 4 plants in soil

[prowler]

Jeiiii Unthing!

Every now and then i find myself crawling through HuPu2 (= Online Finnish grow "bible") just for fun to see how the knowledge i've got now corresponds to what others have written and usually there is nothing to get fuzz about but this autumn i found actually one good advice from there on how to rise rh quite effectively on manual labour.

Just spray the walls of your grow room with some room temperature water which has been oxygenated for a while. Now i do not see wether you have walls made of wood or chipboard which makes it a bit difficult to do this but otherwise i really suggest you to try it out. Actually i feel a bit dumb to write such tip but hey...Im not the sharpest tool on the box
...AND it really really helps! Huge difference in leaf size versus too low rh.

...AND if you happen to have some co2 tablets lying around crush some in the mix.

Peace!

 

[unthing]

Hammerhead, Incognegro, kikkoman66, prowler thanks for the comments and suggestions

I'm kinda scrathing my head what causes the curl. As you can see from the first pics, they look fine, but as the stretch progresses, curling happens. The envinronment hasn't drastically changed in this time, they haven't got nothing more than water, once a bit of seaweed extract, but that's mild in itself and was given in diluted dose. And as they get bigger, why would the rh decrease? mystical..

But anyway, misted the walls (concrete) and let them pots dry out. Let's see what happens. I still quess the combination of hot soil and vertical light might cause this response.

 

[Baba Ku]

Some plants simply don't like to be fed as much as others, and those plants will have that leaf curl if fed too much of something they don't like or can't metabolize fast enough. I have one plant that is very particular about what she eats, and just the least bit more than she wants, and her leafs curl. No way can I ever feed her the same diet as all the rest of my plants get. She is also one that can't be just left to starve, she wants to eat and will protest being starved by a very small yield. But when she is happy and fed the way she likes it, she puts out some weight and funks up well.

Curling downward is usually a sign of overfeeding. Upward curl, and it is too hot.

 

[unthing]

Baba ku, thanks for the comment

Yes, I have had similar leaf curl before and that was with neville's haze...bit tricky those sativas sometimes, or at least for me.

 

[Incognegro]

Yes, Sativas are a lil more finicky, you gotta remember their flowering cycle is much longer than the standard 8-9weeks... so they usually don't want the beefed up ferts til much later in life...

I've got 14+ weekers, and they wanted VERY little food til about week 9-10..then they were ready for the buffet! They got PHAT!!! So just hold back on the feeding a lil...reduce frequency of watering as well if you can....

 

[Fo20Blazerrr]

Some serious budages around that tiny bulb!

NICE!

FO20.

 

[nukkumatti]

We got powerplant x destroyer here that are good cashcroppers.. But very very tricky about watering..Just a bit too much and clawing is there with major phoshorus defiences. Also very tend about nutes..But once pots are full of roots you can water as much as ya want.

Oh jeah and GOOD LOOKING box bro!!!

 

[one Q]

looks nice! hope youre able to finish and post results... good threads like this always end

 

[unthing]

Fo20Blazerrr, Incognegro and Nukku, thanks for comments

Yeah those sativas, not for easy fools like me But bangis are flowering happily despite the curl, watching watering, misting them and well soil is hot in itself so it seems, prob not gonna flush(as in excess flooding) as that kind of measure seems quite drastic, I hope that they'll eat what's in there and and snap out of it eventually, might lower initial yield, but let's see.

I've used the same soil recycled for years, now lockouts/deficiencies might not surprise me, but heavy on N...damn that's new but it haven't noticed any major issue over the years, not a single plant killed in accidentally.

One Q, hi, let's hope i finish it, i usually do with my threads but you never know. If not counting the curling issue, they're green and decent looking.

 

[one Q]

I meant more in the direction that most real cool grow logs like this go limp just before harvest. Then us watching get left in the dust with no harvest shots, numbers, or details on smoke.... Im just saying follow thru to the end.

Peace.

 

[unthing]

Did some vertical canopy management, bangis still looking sad.

 

[Suomi-Prkl]

that HAS to bee excess N. she dont look that sad, all green 'n such.

just don't give her any N on liquid form, i'm sure shell grow out of it later!

we gonna have the harvest about the same time mate! first ones to test at the new years eve! can't wait, we gonna have a big party in hell-city! woohoo!

 

[prowler]

Sure as hell gonna get some serious gpw figures.

 

[unthing]

Thanks prowler and Suomi-Prkl

Yeah, i'm pretty sure too that they're overfed, my watering cycle is usually 3-4 days, after transplants i usually wait a week before watering again. Bangis will be getting just water for 1-2 weeks before feeding with biobloom starts. Hope that's a good strategy.

I quess those leaves will stay ugly to the end, but let's hope that new growth will be better!

 

[unthing]

Hi

Couldn't get decent lights off pic fast, so just took one with lights on.

nearing 3 wks of 12/12:


Bangis have kind of sweet, pleasant smell. Midnight kush is like more indy blueberry, which isn't surprise as it's lineage is hashplant x blueberry i think

 

[Incognegro]

Nice!!! How much longer?

 

[Noobian]

What's the pH of your soil? Have you been keeping it at between 6.5 and 5.5? I would say it looks like pH, overfeeding, or the lamp is too close to the girls, one of those three. Other than that though still looks really good, can't wait to see the finish line!

 

[Yes4Prop215]

damn i was looking at my plants last night and they would get so much more weight if i converted to verticle....right now the 400 is barely penetrating a few feet into the canopy i have around 2 feet of plant material that isnt getting enogh sunlight..

 

[unthing]

Hi, thanks for the comments


Incognecgro, maybe 7-8 weeks, at least with bangies, mk might be few weeks faster

Noobian, my bet is on too hot soil, they're getting just water for awhile

YesProp215, yeah smaller hids don't penetrate much, with this lil 150 watter, i quess the most effective penetration is barely one foot/30,3cm. next round will be with bit smaller plants so don''t have to prune them

 

[one Q]

I will say that the leaves sometimes do that when theyre grown Vert and are a bit close to the lamp. I think that they bend themselves a little to get more light. This could be totaly false, but it's a suspicion.