people on dole to be forced into work

[rocky5]

The new one from Ian Duncan Smith is if you refuse a offer of work 1-2-3 times they will cancel your dole money for up to three years.. now that will hurt people and children .

Its the old "lets bash the poor from Torys again " we need to get rid of some immagrints to free some jobs up so the shirkers wont have an excuse anymore.

God knows how many imigrants go through my work?
last night there were eight.
i cant get any over time at the mo and this is usualy the
busy time of year when we get all our over time.
they pay the agencies over £20 an hour to churn them
through our work temporarely.
i know they are part of a government scheme and the
work get bonuses from them but who knows what bonuses?

at one point the Polish were complaining that there are too
many Latvians working here,Yep thats right they had the
cheek to complain?

 

[GMT]

Personally I have no problem with someone wanting to come here, set up a new life and live in britain on 3 conditions. 1. that they learn the language 2. they bring something to benefit the country (skills/education/money), and 3. that what they earn in britain gets spent in britain.
Alot of the money earned here by immigrants gets sent out of the country to support families abroad. That hurts the british economy as that same money earned could be going to provide someone else here a profit rather than going abroad and never benefiting britain again. There should be a tax on money sent abroad rather than an import tax on goods. That way we could benefit not only from goods imported, but immigrants sending cash home, and also from people sending their cash to tax havens.

 

[RudeDog]

Personally I have no problem with someone wanting to come here, set up a new life and live in britain on 3 conditions. 1. that they learn the language 2. they bring something to benefit the country (skills/education/money), and 3. that what they earn in britain gets spent in britain.
Alot of the money earned here by immigrants gets sent out of the country to support families abroad. That hurts the british economy as that same money earned could be going to provide someone else here a profit rather than going abroad and never benefiting britain again. There should be a tax on money sent abroad rather than an import tax on goods. That way we could benefit not only from goods imported, but immigrants sending cash home, and also from people sending their cash to tax havens.

Good idea on taxing money going out of the country. Also these rich twats that go live abroad for six months to avoid tax.....Take their British passports of them and don't let them back.....Robbing twats...Beckham, Elton John, Lewis Hamilton the lot of them. Fuck 'em off. These footballers earning shed loads of cash with a large percentage of it going to off shore accounts, they need clamping down on.

No chance of a revolution in this country...They got all the guns.

 

[rocket high]

well heres a scenario the factory i used to work in was full of all local people and the banter was good even if the job wasnt great .. but when i tried to get a job back in there there was none and all the signs in the factory were in foreign it was weird... so they are not jobs we are not willing to do ...its just easier and cheaper for the employer to take on immigrants.

 

[sundays child]

I almost can't believe this thread. I thought I had been redirected to Stormfront.

All this blaming the poor for being poor is just what the boss class want. They love the "I work hard for very little money so everyone should" bullshit. The more people blame those without work or immigants, the richer these cnuts get.

As for those who try pulling the sancitmonious "I don't do commercial"...they should just fuck off. Where do they think those who can't grow get their meds get them?
And what the fuck has it got to do with them anyway? Get back in the grow room and get your noses out of other peoples business.

Honestly, I despair.

 

[rocket high]

All this blaming the poor for being poor is just what the boss class want. They love the "I work hard for very little money so everyone should" bullshit.

It's government mind control and its been going for years ...nothing changes .

 

[shafty420]

lets face it though, its easy to point the finger, but most british people wouldnt be prepared to do the shitty low paid jobs that most immigrants do.

true, asian guy that i used to work with would do a 9-5 sometimes even 7 in garage then start a second job at a kebab house till 2 in morning cant fault work ethic + think bck to when indians first came over and opened up all corner shops that did wonders for economy

got me thinking stoners must plow loads into economy think of v.a.t on every pack of rizzla ya buy haha

 

[GMT]

this is the uk remember, think of the tax on the cigs that go into all those joints.

 

[RudeDog]

this is the uk remember, think of the tax on the cigs that go into all those joints.

One of the reasons I gave up using tobaco, 8 months nicotine free..Given them fools enough coin over the years.

 

[Gypsy Nirvana]

I tend to think globally.....and humanely ..

1. Us humans all bleed and need...

2. We are all earthlings and should be allowed to go where-ever we want to seek security/work and sustenance for ourselves and our families on this earth...Borders that fractionate the planet try and prevent this, but where there is a will, there is usually a way...

3. Protectionism by nations to exclude economic migrants will never work since at one stage in history or another our ancestors were all economic migrants...

4. I was born in the U.K. and have seen for myself how many 'Lazy Sods' there are sucking up dole/social security funds and complaining about 'the immigrants'.....these same 'Lazy Sods' wouldn't take a job even if you gave them one because they say 'I make three quid more a week on the dole and I don't have to work' e.t.c.

5. I have seen many immigrants that come to the UK and take full advantage of the education system to better themselves where-as I have seen many complaining 'Lazy Sod's' not even finish school because they would rather be down the pub/getting high with the proceeds from their regular giro payment....(dole money)....

6. Britain as a supposed developed nation offers many opportunities to it's populace that most don't even bother to take advantage of since many 'Lazy Sod's' couldn't be bothered and would rather sit in their council houses (paid for by housing benefit) complaining about the 'immigrants' and playing x-box all day while drinking cheap cider......the state pays for their food, their booze and tobacco, their rent, their council tax, their National Insurance (Medical costs and state pension if/when they reach 65).....they can even get payments to pay for any kids they might have, fuel/electricity, clothing and transport......and probably a bunch of other things I don't even know about......

...sad but true...

*dedicated to all the 'Lazy Sods'.....an old tune from The Sex Pistols
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXZ3UYL5MB8&feature=related

 

[BigPhil]

The reasion ower country is in the state it is. Is bacause of the govenment, They have no money they use ower money and when its gone place most of the blame on the unemployed. Thats whats wrong with ower country, Its the state it is in now because of there greed, Not because a small % of people are lazy, They only want everyone to work because that = more money 4 them. To waste away on crap we dont need oh and new cars houses etc etc.

Its easy to point the finger

 

[Hazyfontazy]

yes blame OUR government

 

[BigPhil]

yes blame OUR government

If they knew how to make money rather then blow it then, Ower country wouldnt be like it is 2day, Im sure they would rather spend the tax payers money on 2 billion pounds huge jets that carry tanks and such like. Do we really need things like these? I belive we have just bought 2 of these such jets and will not be ready till 2020, How about knocking 4-5 billion of the govenmaent debts instead of increasing it, Theres so many things wrong in the world today , There just a bunch of muppets, Im not looking forward to another 15 years time when my daughter will be in a worse position than we are now

What they need to be doing is making more jobs, As 100.000's of job have been lost of the last cupple of years and nothing has turned up to replace those lost jobs, And then they say ower country is lazy (more finger pointing) They need to open up more factory work start getting some money in form overseas

Ive been outta work for 2 months and I hate it, I dont mind factory work most of it wasnt mind numbing and was a good crack with the people I work with, Fair enough the money wasnt great, But I'd rahter be doing somthing than sat on my arse, I dont however want to give the govenment any of my money for them to waste away

 

[rocket high]

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer ...and the gap increases every day.

Greed makes the world go round SADLY.

 

[Jalisco Kid]

Good idea on taxing money going out of the country. Also these rich twats that go live abroad for six months to avoid tax.....Take their British passports of them and don't let them back.....Robbing twats...Beckham, Elton John, Lewis Hamilton the lot of them. Fuck 'em off. These footballers earning shed loads of cash with a large percentage of it going to off shore accounts, they need clamping down on.

No chance of a revolution in this country...They got all the guns.

Like Jim said "they've got the guns but we got the numbers" 5 to 1 or as we say iOye cabrones la revolution no ha terminado!

It is the same in all industrial countries, just heard in different tongues. Suerte JK

 

[DocLeaf]

Retro link Gypsy... Punks could afford to be lazy,, like rastas.

These days the 'lazy sods' need plenty of bling-bling and gucci loafers to wear while watching Trisha on their HD top-boxes... otherwise they wouldn't feel complete ..lol

Meanwhile plenty of us are grafting for FOOD,, paying vampires dem bills,, just makes us more hungry

peace n flowers

Food - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_N9ITDW9A

 

[GMT]

for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, the basic law. The tighter they grasp at our lives, the more the sheeple will start to realise what the rest of us have known for a while. As time goes by, our numbers will swell.

Vive la revolution.

 

[STUPPA]

If they knew how to make money rather then blow it then, Ower country wouldnt be like it is 2day, Im sure they would rather spend the tax payers money on 2 billion pounds huge jets that carry tanks and such like. Do we really need things like these? I belive we have just bought 2 of these such jets and will not be ready till 2020, How about knocking 4-5 billion of the govenmaent debts instead of increasing it, Theres so many things wrong in the world today , There just a bunch of muppets, Im not looking forward to another 15 years time when my daughter will be in a worse position than we are now

What they need to be doing is making more jobs, As 100.000's of job have been lost of the last cupple of years and nothing has turned up to replace those lost jobs, And then they say ower country is lazy (more finger pointing) They need to open up more factory work start getting some money in form overseas

Ive been outta work for 2 months and I hate it, I dont mind factory work most of it wasnt mind numbing and was a good crack with the people I work with, Fair enough the money wasnt great, But I'd rahter be doing somthing than sat on my arse, I dont however want to give the govenment any of my money for them to waste away

I used to do factory work aswell but sadly now manufacturing in the UK is pretty much dead. The problem is alot of the work goes to china nowadays where they can produce things so cheaply we just cannot compete , and with the worlds superpower leaders doing deals with china recently you know it is only going to get worse, i bet they will be giving companies tax breaks if they do business with china in the future, or something like that.

China does'nt have any health and safty laws ,maximum working hours or minimum wage so the labour costs and overheads will always be cheaper than western countries.
I cant see it changing soon either the place i used to work for started sending the raw materials for the product they made to china let them make it and had it sent back aswell and this still worked out cheaper than having it all made here in england!

 

[rocket high]

the problem with the uk is the government say's jump and we say how high..we havent the ball's to go on a revolution.

we should maybe hit them where it hurts and stop paying our council tax for a month and watch them squirm.

or a national strike would be better !!

 

[GMT]

I did that (along with 2 million other people) on the poll tax. Flat refused to pay it for 12 months, then got hauled into court. (the only court case I've ever lost lol).