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baddude

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Looks like this forum doesn't get as much attention as it should. I'm not a big fan of hash oil, but I have been making hashish for a couple of years. I have designed and built most of my equipment with parts readily available.

I typically like the quality from dry-sieved and typically run my trim through my tumbler which is made from an old fish aquarium with a BBQ rotisserie motor. I holds approximately 4 oz./run. If you only tumble, you are missing out on a lot of trichomes that weren't easily removed.

I always put my post tumbled trim back into the freezer, and then run it through my washer and bags. I have the 5gallon Bubble Bags. I haven't used any of the others, but I don't think I'd bother. I have run over 100 batches through the same bags. Keep them clean and they'll last for a long time.

In using these bags, I have come up with a lot of tricks that may or may not have been mentioned on here.

1. Squirt bottle: This $3 investment will save you lots of headaches when you are trying to scrape the bags. i use a plastic spoon the lightly push down on the center of a stretched bad. Then lightly spray the perimeter of the bags which makes the trichomes collect in the bottom by the spoon. I always do this over the same bucket. It is a smaller diameter bucket that makes it much easier the stretch the bag out. When you are done with all of your runs, then I run the liquid back through the bags again.

2. Bag Flipping: I use the 220u bag as a strainer in a bucket of its own. Then I run through 120u, 73u and 25u. I flip the 120u and 73u bags in between runs. It is almost impossible to get all of the trichomes off of the bags from scraping. If you flip the bags inside out, the left over trichomes will drop down to the next screen. The only bag that I don't turn inside out is the 25u.

3. Pressing: This is the biggest problem that I see most people have. They have a nice pile of trichomes and they press them together into a crumbly slab. Most of the hash I see at the dispensaries looks like this. I much prefer a hash where the trichomes have been crushed and have released their oils.

To me good hash should have the consistency of a Tootsie Roll thats been left in the sun. Once it gets to this point it can be successfully cured. The taste difference between a cured and fresh hash is amazing.

So how do you press it? I built a bottle jack press and use a mold, but I have recently found a new method. I use my forklift at work and press the trichomes with 6000lbs of pressure. After doing it this way for awhile, the jack press is collecting dust.

These are just some things i've learned and experienced. I am yielding about 45grams/lb. of good trim. I know there are lots of others making hashish in their garage. Always love to learn new things!

BD
 
Wow - really informative post. I love hash, haven't had it in AGES. Why press it? (And what with for those of us who don't have forklifts, lol!)
 

miaumiau

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nice post .....


when making bubble, always look that you dry it in powdery form, not in a chunk or in bigger chunks

when you want to press the powder, let it dry out really well before you press it


i think that is a major mistake much people do


good vibes! :ying:
 

baddude

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Thanks guys. The reason I prefer fully pressed hash is twofold. It creates a shiny protective layer around the hash which protects it and allows you to store it for extended periods. I still have some hash that is close to two years old. It is the smoothest smoke I've ever had.

The second reason is the longevity of the burn. We've all put a little keif on a bowl before. That first hit fries most of the trichomes. When it is properly pressed, that same amount of keif will burn for a long time.

Making sure that everything is completely dry is key. I leave everything out at room temp under a little piece of screen to keep the dust out.

I know not many people have a forklift. LOL. If you are looking to experiment, put some keif in a baggy and put it between a couple of boards and drive your car up on it. I don't know if this would work, but i have yet to find a method that doesn't require some work. I will crush it will the lift and then warm it a little, work it with my hands, then crush it again. It takes a while, but its worth it.

Cheers! (oh and I know how to spell k i e f, but it wants to change it to chief. lol.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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^the baggie bursts open and your kif goes everywhere. try just putting it between two boards and stacking cinder blocks and then stand on them
 

miaumiau

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or just use this :

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Chamba

Welcome to the Hash forum Baddude....you've come to the same conclusion as many others who are experienced hashers!

Looks like this forum doesn't get as much attention as it should.

The older this forum becomes, the less new posts there are, mostly due to the fact that just about every "new" thread is a repeat of previous posts and threads in this forum...use the search feature and check out lots of great info from lots of experienced hashers.


The reason I prefer fully pressed hash is twofold. It creates a shiny protective layer around the hash which protects it and allows you to store it for extended periods.

use Saran wrap to seal pressed hash...or store loose resin in a sealed glass jar.

The second reason is the longevity of the burn. We've all put a little keif on a bowl before. That first hit fries most of the trichomes. When it is properly pressed, that same amount of keif will burn for a long time.

Everyone is different. I prefer smoking unpressed resin as it burns cooler, burns more evenly and unpressed resin definitely goes further than the same weight pressed.

Instead of blasting the whole bowl at once, use a little finesse when applying flame to your bowl of unpressed resin by burning from one side of the bowl and you will appreciate it more.
 

Mr Pink

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Instead of blasting the whole bowl at once, use a little finesse when applying flame to your bowl of unpressed resin by burning from one side of the bowl and you will appreciate it more.

Funny, I just started using a bong again and discovered how dumb I was as a youth to insist one huge hit was the only way to go... Finesse is nicer, and I'm getting so much more out of a bowl than I used to by not igniting all at once, it's like one of those things you realize when you grow up.
 

baddude

New member
Good conversation!

I have tried the Piecemaker press. It works decent if you are pressing a couple of grams, but I am typically pressing 14g or 28g to keep things even.

I typically only press the trichomes that pass through my 120u screens. I collect these in a ziploc bag, wrap it up tightly, then put it in my back pocket for an hour or so. The pressure and heat will form the trichomes into a little brick. Then I press them in the bag.

One thing that I would advise against is using Saran Wrap on your hash. Especially if you are warming it up in any way. There is only one thing to use imho and that is cellophane. You can buy this stuff almost anywhere. It is used to wrap bouquets. I get it in the gift wrap section of my local store. When heat is applied, it shrinks, but when it's cool, you can easily remove the cellophane from you brick.

As far as blasting bowls goes, what can I say, I'm a stoner. My experience is that my hashish goes a lot further than keif. Also, it is easy to carry, isn't messy to smoke....
 
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Chamba

yeah, you're right, PE wrap is not the ideal material, it's down there with Ziploc bags at the bottom of the list. but it's relatively airtight and works well in the freezer. I store kif in a small tin in my stash box or it sits under my screen (for a short while before it jumps into my pipe)

I typically only press the trichomes that pass through my 120u screens. I collect these in a ziploc bag, wrap it up tightly, then put it in my back pocket for an hour or so. The pressure and heat will form the trichomes into a little brick. Then I press them in the bag.

sounds like it's decent quality that doesn't really need high heat or tonnes of pressure....ever tried forming that loose resin into a solid form by using only your thumb and palm...it's quite satisfying, excellent quality requires about 5 seconds to form a putty, ok quality takes about 20 seconds of hard pushing/kneading with your thumb.

In my opinion, if loose resin will not form into a hash with your thumb and palm and requires heat and pressure to form a puck, then that's nature's way of telling you there's too much contaminant (broken up leaf matter) in the there. But if the hash is for sale, not personal use, then it makes (dollar) sense to go for quantity rather than quality...so sift the guts out of the plant material and use lots of heat and pressure as an ounce of good~ok quality hash will be worth more than 10 grams of excellent...but I know which one we'd rather smoke!.

Happy Hashing!
 
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