Baba Ku just proves the point of how fucking insane tea baggers really are.... keep screaming we want our country back and get rid of the mexicans. Oh and if you have a minute make sure to stomp on a protesting women's face if you get the chance...
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BigBudBill
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Being a Libertarian, if I could be convinced why I should belong to that party, maybe I would join. Was hoping someone could give me a logical reason to choose that name.
Not looking to debate as it bores me here. If we had an impartial panel that could deduct points for fear mongering, not answering the question, fallacies, etc. and then an outright winner declared by points, then I might choose to display debating skills. But not here where a person can use tactics taught to him by Anslinger, Hearst, Bush v.1 and v.2, and that gang. That is an exercise in futility. Some of us here have already demonstrated a loose relationship with Truth.
Not looking to debate as it bores me here. If we had an impartial panel that could deduct points for fear mongering, not answering the question, fallacies, etc. and then an outright winner declared by points, then I might choose to display debating skills. But not here where a person can use tactics taught to him by Anslinger, Hearst, Bush v.1 and v.2, and that gang. That is an exercise in futility. Some of us here have already demonstrated a loose relationship with Truth.
See, my points are proven each time you throw such ignorance around.
You throw your nasty divisive bigoted tirades around real easy, and think you are really doing something good, I suppose. But to a clear thinking individual, they see just what we are dealing with here.
You are a perfect example of a big part of the problem. Your divisive, rude, and quite frankly unintelligent analysis simply shows that you are the one with the issues. And your representation can only hurt a cause. Any cause, really. Your type really has no business representing. I sure don't want your type representing me. I am not a bigot or a racist.
Only a simpleton thinks it's as simple as "get rid of the Mexicans"...and a complete numbskull to think that is what the TEA party stands on. Simply more divisive shit. Sickens me.
It's always the ones who are truly bigoted and racist that throw those charges around without anything to back it up. They scream it out loud in an attempt to make it so, but they don't seem to understand that at the end of the day they have absolutely nothing but their own bigoted stances and false charges, and simply laying the charges doesn't make them so.
In fact, it is pretty fucking sick to make such charges without proof. Chicken shit, basically. Punk ass chicken shit.
Thomkal Vwalaa
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Baby Ku just can't admit when he/her is wrong, it's okay. He/her can hurl insults from behind his screen, it just defeats his point (which was valid and has grown to be the biggest jerk-off expo ever), and makes him/her seem even crazier and more wrong. You know curse words don't give you validity or prove your point right? A joke or two could lighten the mood.
I'm all for tea-bagging the tea party folks
The line starts here 
Franky, I'm praying to JAH that the tea party takes enough votes away from the gop to keep obama in the white house. Then we get four more years to grow (double meaning intended) and solidify the MMj movement in the 'green' states.
I'm all for tea-bagging the tea party folks
The line starts here Franky, I'm praying to JAH that the tea party takes enough votes away from the gop to keep obama in the white house. Then we get four more years to grow (double meaning intended) and solidify the MMj movement in the 'green' states.
What exactly am I wrong about? Explain it in detail.
Are you saying the the tea party is about racism and is part of what they are all about?
Explain yourself, if you can.
I would edit out the communist comment too if I were you.
Are you old enough to be on this board? I'm just askin....
Are you saying the the tea party is about racism and is part of what they are all about?
Explain yourself, if you can.
I would edit out the communist comment too if I were you.
Are you old enough to be on this board? I'm just askin....
BigBudBill
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I am wondering why they chose that name(Tea Party). Any insight? WHat the hell does it mean? Do they serve TEA? DO they dress as Mohawk Indians? You know a lot about the party. Can YOU explain?
This is what Wikipedia says:
The name "Tea Party" echoes the Boston Tea Party, a 1773 incident when colonists destroyed British tea rather than paying what they considered a tax that violated their right to "No Taxation without Representation."
Is that about right??http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#cite_note-15
Thomkal Vwalaa
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I can't read through your crap posts again, but the others have already pointed out your sweeping assumptions and your general confusion about the thoughts of people who are not you. Go read it yourself and realize that your are telling others what they think and how they feel. You rally against divisiveness while being exactly that and worse.
Now I'll make a sweeping assumption and say that your incendiary tone and hypocritical words exemplify the tea party.post edit: to directly answer your question. No, that group of people is not about racism per say, it just so happens that it is full of white racists. This issue gets confused because the rally folks come out and say stupid racist comments, which get recorded and now "the tea party is a bunch of racists". It's just how it goes.
BigBudBill
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While at a Tea Party event on February 27, 2009, a photo was taken of TeaParty.org founder and president Dale Robertson with a sign that said "Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = Niggar."[214] Tea Party leaders state that he was ejected from the event because of the offensive nature of the sign and is no longer affiliated with TeaParty.org
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Race_issues
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Race_issues
Thomkal Vwalaa
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Yeah, that group is pretty much for abolishing the federal gov't to its skeleton. In theory the idea has merit, but in reality its just impossible. The problem (one of the many I should say) with the tea party is that it is just all the yahoos who want to go backwards. They have no real standard as to what is the tea party. Its just a folks who want change (lol) and are unhappy with the size and scope of the federal gov't. But who isn't?
Thomkal Vwalaa
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Not a surprise, I can't look around for this shit because it's depressing. I'm sure there is worse. But really, GO tea party! Take those gop supporters and their money! We have two years to grow that party. Palin for president 2012!
BigBudBill
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More from wiki:
Matthew Continetti of The Weekly Standard has said: "There is no single Tea Party. The name is an umbrella that encompasses many different groups. Under this umbrella, you’ll find everyone from the woolly fringe to Ron Paul supporters, from Americans for Prosperity to religious conservatives, independents, and citizens who never have been active in politics before. The umbrella is gigantic."
Do I as a Libertarian want to share an umbrella that might be considered a racist movement? Growing up, I had friends that were Native American and 2 of my marriages have been to Native Americans. The opinion of even conservative family members was that it was racist and insulting that the Boston Tea Party participants dressed as Mohicans.
I am not really here to convince Baba of jack squat. Waste of internets space and bits. Just thought that those of us interested in some aspects of the Tea Party could discuss the elements that make us uncomfortable. If certain things were ironed out and clarified, the movement might be a bit more attractive to me.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#cite_note-WeekSt-163 Probably the wrong place to try that discussion as it digresses from the topic of this thread.
Anyways, I think Baba has pretty much clarified, for me, the movement. I got it now.. No thanks.
binaryfission
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Word.
But, i must play the devil's advocate. The original Tea Party has some good points. Its Dick Armey who turned it into an organization represented by BabaKu, who can tell other people how to think and then cry about people being rude; the openly hypocritical if you will.
Rand Paul, while his supporters are crazies and he is a terrible politician at the time of posting, he is intelligent, well at a minimum i think he has good ideas about the Economy.
I'm all for debating, at a minimum, in Congress the benefits and huge consequences of fiat money and central banking. I'm all for completely free markets in a World with the internet in every household ( and not a second sooner.) Saying the stuff about the civil rights act was baaaaad politics. But in this day and age where you can twitter about A shop owner being racist, why not let them be racist in order to protect the purity of our economics system?? I can't say i think it is the best option or the best policy, BUT it is logical. Fuck government controls, let the market decide. If you can be a bigot and sell lots of ice cream so be it. If people will buy an iPhone made by slaves at fox con then so be it. But don't act like the minimum wage does anything but drive jobs off shore. Again i'm not sure we should get rid of the minimum wage but the philosophy, or theory of the matter is worth discussing, IMO.
So for me and my research, this is what the real tea party was about at its core. But it was almost instantly co-opted by people who played on Americans fear's. They payed for the buses and for the people and for the signs. And they had demagogues to spread the message on talk radio and television. This is documented. Dick Armey turned the tea party anger/populism into an uneducated right wing mob. They did it with finesse and skill.
So while i don't agree with the, outward manifestation of the tea party at all, I can agree with what i understand to be the "founder's intent." The actuation of small government. The republicans love to talk about it but they never do it. Paul and a few others actually have ideas on how to start doing it. Again, i don't necessarily agree with these people's politics completely either. But i do like that an alternate view point is being represented. That new discussions are being had.
This is mega political and could all get "redacted" but, aside from BabaDouche i think people are being civil. This education is important to our political future. We must be involved and educated thoroughly to distinguish between who and what is for or against us, as a marijuana community.
Libertarians and free market capitalists should at their core be good' philosophically, for the movement. This is why marijuana is such a great wedge issue for these folks. It can separate the social conservatives (Christian Fundamentalists..lets be honest) from the free market/states rights people. Are you for states rights and individual libererty or do you want to outlaw gays, weed, and anything deemed devilish? Pick one.
This is what we as people looking for progress want, i think
. We should want an elimination of this two party system. We need our peers to be educated enough to see the differences or lack thereof.How do we fight apathy?
How can we get more people to vote here than Iraq (More than 60% in the last election)? Are dodging roadside bombs and running from people who wish to behead you what we need to make voting Extreme!!!?
Thomkal Vwalaa
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1449 sucks
1449 sucks
This misleading article suggests that CA ganja fans are better off with 1449. But we just lost our right to jury trial and court appointed attorneys. Now we only retain right to trial in front of a judge, BUT NO JURY OF PEERS OR PUBLIC DEFENDERS, and you know that judge isn't a grower. Prop 19 would have made SB1449 irrelevant.
Net Worth runs Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. E-mail Kathleen Pender at kpender@sfchronicle.com.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/06/BU9Q1G7NSI.DTL
1449 sucks
This misleading article suggests that CA ganja fans are better off with 1449. But we just lost our right to jury trial and court appointed attorneys. Now we only retain right to trial in front of a judge, BUT NO JURY OF PEERS OR PUBLIC DEFENDERS, and you know that judge isn't a grower. Prop 19 would have made SB1449 irrelevant.
Net Worth runs Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays. E-mail Kathleen Pender at kpender@sfchronicle.com.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/06/BU9Q1G7NSI.DTL
McDank8O5
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unbelievable... terrible news for california
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/maps/attorney-general/
NOT COOLey for California. We got bigger problems than Prop 19's failure that's for sure!
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/maps/attorney-general/
NOT COOLey for California. We got bigger problems than Prop 19's failure that's for sure!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...spensaries-even-if-la-does-not-ban-sales.html
This dudes a prick...
This dudes a prick...
Thomkal Vwalaa
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So nice I had to post it twice.
I wonder which one is babacooch?
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