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ICMAG Administration endorses The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010

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igrowone

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i was feeling pretty down myself, but i do get some encouragement from the MMJ factory situations<br>
not much liked by growers here, which i do understand, but it's funny in a way<br>
the DEA is looking at the prop 19 'scoreboard', and yelling 'we won'<br>
then these other guys don't give a crap and go on with building their 'screw DEA' factories<br>
new court cases coming soon! it's not prop 19, but it's the best game in town at the moment
 

nomaad

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Let's just hope Kamala Harris holds on to her tenuous lead over Steve Cooley in the race for Attorney General. Cooley, who orchestrated the crackdown on Dispensaries in LA as DA would preside over the dismantling of the MEDICAL scene as we know it!

The gap is currently around 9000 votes in favor of Harris with 10s of thousands of absentee ballots yet to be counted.

I am not of the opinion that Prop 19 was the only opportunity we're going to get to pass a bill that would open up cannabis to recreational users. We came very close and I have no doubt that there will be something on the 2012 ballot. I think I read somewhere that Lee and Ammiano are joining forces to draft the next measure.

California remains the worldwide mecca of ganja use and culture and I am sure that we will eventually be the first to pass a measure supporting recreational use. I am patient and hopeful for the next go-round. Won't be long before they are collecting sigs for the next one outside the supermarket. I'll sign for the next one like I signed for the two this year. Won't be long now.

And just like this last one, it won't be the handful of growers and ganjapreneurs that oppose it for protectionist (some may say greedy) reasons that make or break the vote. Hopefully, we can get over that fallacy (since we have seen clearly that this group poses no electoral significance) and, next time argue the merits of the legislation rather than the moral motivations behind people's opinions.
 

dagnabit

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Sean Hannity 10 minutes ago:
California (the most "progressive"state)voted by an overwhelming 10% not to legalize marijuana. Heeding warnings of thousands of stoned pot heads getting behind the wheel,and workers showing up high on the job.

Not a single word about "to restrictive" or "poorly written".....

But you no voters knew that was coming. There is no hope for 2012 and you know that ass well. Not a single national news story saying 19 failed because it was to restrictive.....
 

Babbabud

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Brown was the Mayor of Oakland. He may not say hes all for it politically but he certainly didnt try to stop it while mayor from what I could see.
 

localhero

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Not a single word about "to restrictive" or "poorly written".....

But you no voters knew that was coming. There is no hope for 2012 and you know that ass well. Not a single national news story saying 19 failed because it was to restrictive.....


there were plenty of news stories claiming the 25 and under crowd didnt show up. that means to me that the meassure lacked the excitement needed to get the younger vote out. maybe it was too restrictive?
 

nomaad

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there were plenty of news stories claiming the 25 and under crowd didnt show up. that means to me that the meassure lacked the excitement needed to get the younger vote out. maybe it was too restrictive?

I'd say that hits the mark. When you can register and vote via your Xbox, you may see this demographic- virtually- at the polls.
 

kmk420kali

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there were plenty of news stories claiming the 25 and under crowd didnt show up. that means to me that the meassure lacked the excitement needed to get the younger vote out. maybe it was too restrictive?

From what I heard from ppl I talked to, most knew that it would legalize an ounce, and let you grow a small garden-- They knew absolutely nothing else about it, because they never read it--
Older ppl seemed to be a bit more informed about it-
Ultimately the blame for that is on ppl that didn't read it for themselves...but realistically, it was the lack of promotion and literature for 19--:tiphat:
 

nomaad

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It was, by comparison to the other Props, a very underfunded campaign. I guess Richard Lee will have to start spending with the big boys next year.

Whatserface put up 140 million to beat Jerry Brown at the same ballot box.

I am sure the next campaign will take it to a new level. Somebody said that rich people won't invest because this campaign lost, but I don't think that is the case. Something that was so underfunded that got 45% of the vote will attract investment on those merits. More money in the coffers and better advertising probably would have won the day.
 
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rick shaw

There was a 30% voter turnout,very sad. Even if you don't give a %$#% about marijuana,this election chose between two very different directions for California. Brown/Whitman, I'm glad California voters chose Jerry Brown. He is very supportive of mmj and dispensaries. He issued guidelines for clubs in '08 and told the feds to stop the raids. Fingers crossed for Kamala Harris what I read about Cooley scares me.
 

igrowone

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There was a 30% voter turnout,very sad. Even if you don't give a %$#% about marijuana,this election chose between two very different directions for California. Brown/Whitman, I'm glad California voters chose Jerry Brown. He is very supportive of mmj and dispensaries. He issued guidelines for clubs in '08 and told the feds to stop the raids. Fingers crossed for Kamala Harris what I read about Cooley scares me.

30% - that was a killer
the slight positive note here is that this may be a very unrepresentative voter cross section
larger turnout in 2012 could have a very different result
 
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30% - that was a killer
the slight positive note here is that this may be a very unrepresentative voter cross section
larger turnout in 2012 could have a very different result

cannabis legislation will only succeed on a presidential election year. right now, the dems are not enthused.
 
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rick shaw

Her karma didn't help Oregon's dispensary/legal sales of overgrow prop.Her boyfriend was banking on it. On the plus side more voters said yes to prop 19 then voted for Whitman and I don't have to watch anymore of her ads.
 

localhero

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It was, by comparison to the other Props, a very underfunded campaign. I guess Richard Lee will have to start spending with the big boys next year.

Whatserface put up 140 million to beat Jerry Brown at the same ballot box.

I am sure the next campaign will take it to a new level. Somebody said that rich people won't invest because this campaign lost, but I don't think that is the case. Something that was so underfunded that got 45% of the vote will attract investment on those merits. More money in the coffers and better advertising probably would have won the day.


thats what sometimes happens when one person spearheads the funding over say a conglomeration of supporters. had the effort been headed by a group with a network of donors much like every other proposition, there would have been ample funding for a prominent ad campaign.

as it were, the 19 campaign didnt receive major funding until the final 3 weeks, and that seemed like it was more of an effort to save face for the cause from an imminent disastrous defeat after the polls swung hard against 19.
 
Not a single word about "to restrictive" or "poorly written".....

But you no voters knew that was coming. There is no hope for 2012 and you know that ass well. Not a single national news story saying 19 failed because it was to restrictive.....

Low turnout is why it failed. Less than half of eligible voters showed up. Doesn't really tell us anything specific, when you have half the population on the side line. :2cents:
 
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