mostly being the operative word. we have lines that were bred in the uk before the dutch coffeeshop movement.
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uk clone only! (and british bred strains)
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mostly being the operative word. we have lines that were bred in the uk before the dutch coffeeshop movement.
cannaboy
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the uk scene isn't disappearing. Its strong!! You just got to be wise..
If you get 10 or more bags it may raise a few eyebrows .. more if it isn't spring time??? People are clued up but you need to pick location wisely and pick friends wiser!!! Proper breading doesn't happen period!!!! Smashing or minor selection or a few 1000's are done however, same as the large house grows that get caught!! Hydro is good for the soil bag reason..
Many a grower in the uk can't be persuaded to get into the commercial side of things,, some do,,( I mainly see vietnmamese) if you can grow ok anyway why bother? mabe go crazy for a few years and retire? and this makes smarter people!!! Much smarter smaller grows with less chance of loss of genetics harder to spot the grow,, easy to manage!! High yields..
Who want's the pestering?????#
Some people just say there stopped or the other half or something..
MOVE,, not the movement stopped, The scene is illegal and behind some closed doors!! Smart people won't be out in the open..
mostly being the operative word. we have lines that were bred in the uk before the dutch coffeeshop movement.
yeah that,, wish i still had my seed stash from back then. totally more mindful
excuse my ignorance docleaf and verge (or anyone else who may know) but what type of tings were bred/grown/passed around before dutch and US started influencing the grow scene?
were these lines mostly bred from seeds found in import weed or collected on travels?
were these lines mostly bred from seeds found in import weed or collected on travels?
cannaboy
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Question time!
Question time!
Hi there nice&wise people from the uk!
I´ve grown two different BlackDominas(1from seed the other from a cut gaven by a big friend) but only kept photo records records of one of them.
On my notes it says this one is the norfolk cut but i can´t be sure. Anyone in here grown or still grows that cut?
Sadly i´ve lost both BD´s due to legal problems and i still miss my blackdomina smoke at night time...nothing puts me to sleep like some properly grown BD
LLP is there any chance of this being the same BD that you mention on your list?
Many thanks for any input and i can´t praise this thread enough.
Awesome info and people
Question time!
Hi there nice&wise people from the uk!
I´ve grown two different BlackDominas(1from seed the other from a cut gaven by a big friend) but only kept photo records records of one of them.
On my notes it says this one is the norfolk cut but i can´t be sure. Anyone in here grown or still grows that cut?
Sadly i´ve lost both BD´s due to legal problems and i still miss my blackdomina smoke at night time...nothing puts me to sleep like some properly grown BD
LLP is there any chance of this being the same BD that you mention on your list?
Many thanks for any input and i can´t praise this thread enough.
Awesome info and people
hi llp, as far as I know they were mainly african and aisan sativas collected by travellers. ot1 has been growing and breeding the finest sativa for over 40 years in the uk. the main thing that sets his work so far apart from what the dutch have achieved is the fact his selection criteria is based purely on psycoactivity and quality of high - two things the dutch seem to know very little about.
plus some Jamaican / Caribbean and Mexican varieties and seeds from the states.
Lines I have grown or worked in the UK that have absolutely zero to do with Dutch or American 'work'(or the bloody Internet) and were excellent Cannabis are too many to mention,but include at least 9 diff African lines,3 from India,at least 9 from Carribean,2 from Pakistan,at least 8 SE Asians,6 from Brasil or nearby,a Colombian,2 Mexican,a Philipines creeper,2 Afghanica types,1 Kush,1 Yemen,1 Nepalese etc,etc(As many strains as I have had and lost and as much tribulations I have suffered-I still haven't stopped collecting and I don't intend too anytime soon).....I have grown many,many more lines that WERE via European or American breeders that were excellent too but lots were shocking copy-cat 'Work' IMHO also.
To me a Breeder(or at least one of their affiliates) has to have sourced or collected some original genetics of their own and 90 percent of Western 'Breeders' have rarely collected a bean themselves and have just worked others(already worked) collections of tested genetics,TBH that is quite Easy! Chucking Pollen about is NOT difficult. I know many teenagers that do it just fine! Not Rocket Science....lol. If U cross 2 popular strains together u are bound to find some popular keepers....Its a given!
If I hadn't had to move my op's 14 times in the last 2 decades and had never had my equipment and parent plants robbed or my pips ripped-off,or been harassed by Pigs,or if some of my older seeds would germ now-then they might all still be in the UK genepool now!
Unfortunately as many of U know it is very difficult to maintain even a smaller breeding program or keep hold of all your genetics when u r an 'Underground' breeder in a large city where Cannabis breeding is Illegal and Skunk is Public Enemy no'1. Not an excuse....Just the Truth! Having been Given the freedom that Dutch breeders had for many years or the weather of Califonia I am confident we would have a larger UK strain heritage to be proud of......PS. There is no Cannabis that originates from Europe or America either,so I fail to see how that is much of an argument,personally!!
If you wanna go back a little further into History you will notice that production of Quality Medical cannabis from Sinsemilia is a Joint British/Indian innovation...But we don't expect praise for that now do we UKers-Its just HISTORY to us....lol!
I would swap all the Hybrid's made by westerner's in the last 45 years(sorry Sam,Nev,DJ et al) for a bag of seeds of what they were growing back then in India-I DO mean that!
-There ain't Nothing new under the Sun!
Peeps have been smoking and Imbibing The 'Boom-Chiggy Cheeba' for many centuries. Decent Puff is not a 21st century ting!!!
Love and Lumens to All the Worlds Farmers, Breeders, Dusters, Preservers, Med-providers and growers and lets not forget the Blazers too!
Do We look Bovvered!! JBo ;]
To me a Breeder(or at least one of their affiliates) has to have sourced or collected some original genetics of their own and 90 percent of Western 'Breeders' have rarely collected a bean themselves and have just worked others(already worked) collections of tested genetics,TBH that is quite Easy! Chucking Pollen about is NOT difficult. I know many teenagers that do it just fine! Not Rocket Science....lol. If U cross 2 popular strains together u are bound to find some popular keepers....Its a given!
If I hadn't had to move my op's 14 times in the last 2 decades and had never had my equipment and parent plants robbed or my pips ripped-off,or been harassed by Pigs,or if some of my older seeds would germ now-then they might all still be in the UK genepool now!
Unfortunately as many of U know it is very difficult to maintain even a smaller breeding program or keep hold of all your genetics when u r an 'Underground' breeder in a large city where Cannabis breeding is Illegal and Skunk is Public Enemy no'1. Not an excuse....Just the Truth! Having been Given the freedom that Dutch breeders had for many years or the weather of Califonia I am confident we would have a larger UK strain heritage to be proud of......PS. There is no Cannabis that originates from Europe or America either,so I fail to see how that is much of an argument,personally!!
If you wanna go back a little further into History you will notice that production of Quality Medical cannabis from Sinsemilia is a Joint British/Indian innovation...But we don't expect praise for that now do we UKers-Its just HISTORY to us....lol!
I would swap all the Hybrid's made by westerner's in the last 45 years(sorry Sam,Nev,DJ et al) for a bag of seeds of what they were growing back then in India-I DO mean that!
-There ain't Nothing new under the Sun!
Peeps have been smoking and Imbibing The 'Boom-Chiggy Cheeba' for many centuries. Decent Puff is not a 21st century ting!!!
Love and Lumens to All the Worlds Farmers, Breeders, Dusters, Preservers, Med-providers and growers and lets not forget the Blazers too!
Do We look Bovvered!! JBo ;]
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2 pheno's of an Afghan from beans given to me by a friend in Kent. It was collected in '89 by a contractor near Balkh somewhere and has been inbred at least 3 times(maybe more. I received a few beans made in the late 90's a while back and another friend has germed 5/8 successfully and we've found 2 poss keeper girls but no boy yet-I do have 25 or so more beans to find boys in tho.
They are great plants ,both very strong meds and stinky in a very Grimey way.......JBo
They are great plants ,both very strong meds and stinky in a very Grimey way.......JBo
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so what cut do i have of the sour d its llp's. and also what strain do you go for for a creative happy high, nearly aqll of the ones i try start off good but get real mongy, every1 i smoke with loves it but i dont enjoy it as much. i have a highland oaxecan cross thats kinda like what i want but its still not quite it. i think i will save a lot of time if i just ask you guys.
funkymonkey
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Creative happy high? Colombian Gold, I'll get some cuts rooted for ya. Gives everyone a big shit eating grin and serious red eye, makes ya look like a 70s stoner cartoon and is a very inspiring, creative high. The Oaxacan is nice but it's a clearer more racy type of high and I find those are best for activities and not so great for creativity due to the clarity and corresponding lack of thought distortion. I crossed the Colombian to the Oaxacan a couple of years ago but god knows where I put the seeds.
thanks Londinium, your making me want to search out some powerful land race boom ting.
hey bigwity the highland oaxacan gold may be the type of high you are looking for.....
the ecsd cut i gave you is the DNA cut btw...
hey bigwity the highland oaxacan gold may be the type of high you are looking for.....
the ecsd cut i gave you is the DNA cut btw...
everything is attainable
i'm really interested in your colombian gold FM, obviously i have a cheese x colombian gold that i believe you played a part in the male selection for this cross. but would be nice to try the CG pure...
i'm really interested in your colombian gold FM, obviously i have a cheese x colombian gold that i believe you played a part in the male selection for this cross. but would be nice to try the CG pure...
funkymonkey
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Ah, that's a different CG that went into the Pablo Cheese, but this one is also worth having, I'm working on spreading it around the Uk so it can't be lost, I'll let ya know when I have rooted ones to go.
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