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MaryJane51

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I was looking at the HC website about medical marijuana and I saw that there are a few thousand people in Ontario alone able to possess the drug but less than 500 people who are legally aloud to grow for somebody....Is it really that hard to be a designated caregiver for somebody? Or is there more to it like the people just buy marijuana, or decide to grow their own? Please help!
 
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headband 707

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It is incredibly HARD to grow and get the paperwork together and help ppl out ..LOL.. They don't make it easy for anyone NO WAY NO HOW!!! Then there is the growers they are few and far between and then you have to have a place ,equipment on and on and lots of ppl say they can grow but they are not that good at it. Then you need good strains and the amount of hoarding of good clones from the so-called medical community is pretty pathetic. Everyone knows somebody but in the end they know nobody and have nothing but their hand out..Every turn ppl are looking for your cash in one way or the other and the doctors are just as bad if not worse with their BS. So in short the answer to your question is "NO"! ... a big fat "NO"..... welcome to Canada lol.. I left another place in your IC box lol peace out Headband707
 
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madback

hey guys!
I was wondering the same thing because I saw a couple different videos showing the medical shake HealthCan sells to people, makes me sick knowing people puff on it.

There are all types of on going legislative fiascos with this plant in this country but you can find some simple answers HERE. The system that is set up right now is by application, and it seems to be a very slow process. In the application it states "Under the Marihuana Medical Access Regulations, an Authorization to Possess may be issued for a period of up to 12 months." Awesome. :beat-dead
 
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cr0n

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it is hard to get. My doc recommended to just say my sick wife is going to be growing it instead of me. I am going to be doing it because she is too sick, but he said Health Canada will give us far less trouble if we say she is doing it. It is messed up.
 
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headband 707

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madback said:
hey guys!
I was wondering the same thing because I saw a couple different videos showing the medical shake HealthCan sells to people, makes me sick knowing people puff on it.

There are all types of on going legislative fiascos with this plant in this country but you can find some simple answers HERE. The system that is set up right now is by application, and it seems to be a very slow process. In the application it states "Under the Marihuana Medical Access Regulations, an Authorization to Possess may be issued for a period of up to 12 months." Awesome. :beat-dead
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Yeah it all sounds so sweet doesn't it but then reality sets in LOL and it all goes down hill from there.. #1 first you need to find a doctor and good luck with that one LOL LOL.. soon as you say the word cannabis to most doctors they act like you are taking their first born..So you can just hang in the wind for all anyone cares as far as Health Canada/Gov./Dr.'s/Cops are concerned. As far as the ppl that do have doctors that give them cannabis many of them have signed papers saying they won't tell others and some just don't want to tell you as they say I have my doc why should I help others?Then there is the fact that the doctors think they will sued for cannabis and College of Phys and Surg. put out a paper telling them they are all on their own if anything happens. Even though no one has ever sued a doc for cannabis use EVER. Health Canada SUCKS!! end of story they sat on their hands while the reasearch came in over and over about cannabis and they did nothing. They should be revamped and takin out of this game and the doctors need to be taken down many many pegs aswell!!!!!! peace out Headband707:tiphat:

The College Of Phys and Surg. of Canada DO NOT support cannabis in any way shape or form even though the American College does ????? so explain that one to me??
So who exactly is paying the bills here do YOU think?? LOL LOL I would bet it's the DRUG COMPANIES!!!! LOL
 
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GMT

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If you're in that area and serious, shoot Dr Dog pm, not sure how often he logs in these days as he's pretty busy, but he's there and doing it. Perhaps he'd be willing to write an article and post it up, as it would prob get too time consuming to respond in pm with all the details to everyone if too many contacted him.
 
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headband 707

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Massproducer said:
Do you have another diagnosis, because Chronic Pain is not a cat 1 condition
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WRONG WRONG WRONG lol sorry but CHRONIC pain is #1 on the list of Catagory #1 :tiphat:
If you have severe Chronic pain and you take meds even if you don't but if you do then go to your GP you don't need to go to a specialist anymore and ask them for a note stating this. There is a website you can go to with the same name as the doctors oath that can help you out. I hope that helps peace out Headband707
 
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headband 707

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Category 1: This category is comprised of any symptoms treated within the context of providing compassionate end-of-life care; or the symptoms associated with the specified medical conditions listed in the schedule to the Regulations, namely:

•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from multiple sclerosis;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from a spinal cord injury;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from spinal cord disease;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from cancer;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from HIV/AIDS infection;
•Severe pain from severe forms of arthritis; or
•Seizures from epilepsy.
Applicants must provide a declaration from a medical practitioner to support their application.

Category 2: This category is for applicants who have debilitating symptom(s) of medical condition(s), other than those described in Category 1. Under Category 2, persons with debilitating symptoms can apply to obtain an Authorization to Possess dried marihuana for medical purposes, if a specialist confirms the diagnosis and that conventional treatments have failed or judged inappropriate to relieve symptoms of the medical condition. While an assessment of the applicant's case by a specialist is required, the treating physician, whether or not a specialist, can sign the medical declaration.
 
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Massproducer

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Not wrong at all, read YOUR own information. I am licensed and have been for 5 years... I started out as a Cat 2 for Chronic Pain because in order for chronic pain to be considered a Cat 1 is if you are diagnosed with a Cat 1 condition, which are basically Cancer, AIDS, MS, and very bad Arthritis. There is NO CAT one Condition called CHRONIC Pain, Chronic Pain is a symptom and not a diagnosis. So no actually I am 100% correct, it is you that's wrong, wrong, wrong.

headband 707 said:
WRONG WRONG WRONG lol sorry but CHRONIC pain is #1 on the list of Catagory #1 :tiphat:
If you have severe Chronic pain and you take meds even if you don't but if you do then go to your GP you don't need to go to a specialist anymore and ask them for a note stating this. There is a website you can go to with the same name as the doctors oath that can help you out. I hope that helps peace out Headband707
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Massproducer

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•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from multiple sclerosis;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from a spinal cord injury;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from spinal cord disease;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from cancer;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from HIV/AIDS infection;
•Severe pain from severe forms of arthritis; or
•Seizures from epilepsy.


If you look at what is bolded and underlined, these are called diagnosis. Cat 1 approval is based on Conditions and not symptoms, and that is a fact.
 
bromhexine

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i have a friend in ontario who is on disability for anxiety disorder and panic attacks and agoraphobia and depression he says he is eligable for mmj is that true? i keep telling him if he stops smoking maybe he'll be able to get his ass out of the house!
 
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headband 707

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Massproducer said:
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from multiple sclerosis;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from a spinal cord injury;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from spinal cord disease;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from cancer;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from HIV/AIDS infection;
•Severe pain from severe forms of arthritis; or
•Seizures from epilepsy.


If you look at what is bolded and underlined, these are called diagnosis. Cat 1 approval is based on Conditions and not symptoms, and that is a fact.
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Bra Chronic Pain is #1 on my recent list handed to me by the clubs. You have a problem with this I suggest you talk to Health Canada yourself . I actually have the paper that has Severe Chronic non- milignant pain as #1 on the list. I suggest you even call the clubs..
The rules have changed but chronic pain has always been a grey area.
peace out Headband707:tiphat:
 
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headband 707

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bromhexine said:
i have a friend in ontario who is on disability for anxiety disorder and panic attacks and agoraphobia and depression he says he is eligable for mmj is that true? i keep telling him if he stops smoking maybe he'll be able to get his ass out of the house!
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I do believe your friend might qualify under panic attacks but he still needs to get his shit together and get all his info to the right ppl peace out Headband707:tiphat:
 
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headband 707

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apartmentblower said:
yes, sorry forgot to mention severe pain under spinal injury category in cat 1. havent looked at the actual forms in awhile and forgot its under separate diagnosis categories.
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Don't worry about qualifiying under Cat#1 if you do under #2 I believe it's the amount that is restricted and who is going to stop a person who is in chronic pain anyways? seriously? :) peace out Headband707
 
MoeBudz^420

MoeBudz^420

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apartmentblower said:
been waiting 6 mos now on my application , cat 1 chronic severe pain patient. HC doesnt give a shit about us.
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Thought about your post and checked it out. There seems to be some technical changes going on at HC, here's the quote from the site...

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Health Canada is working to address the temporary delay in processing applications
Health Canada is currently experiencing a temporary delay in processing applications for an authorization to possess and/or a licence to produce marihuana for medical purposes, due to a sharp rise in the number of applications received in recent months.
To address this situation, Health Canada has implemented a strategy that is improving the efficiency of its review and authorization process and will restore standard processing times of 8 to 10 weeks.
As part of our strategy, our officials have reviewed all operational policies and procedures and implemented several key process changes in order to improve efficiencies and speed up these processes.
We anticipate that the number of applications being processed will increase as we progress with the implementation of our strategy, The Department is making efforts to restore normal processing times by the end of this year.
Please note that applications respecting symptoms treated within the context of compassionate end-of-life care are treated immediately upon receipt. "

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This explains the slowness. If they haven't asked you/your doc any questions or returned your forms, all should be sailing along smoothly, albeit slowly. Patience is a virtue, it'll be worth it in the end...


(I read somewhere, or was told not to call HC to ask about the slow application processing times, as it would slow it down even more... True/False?)

Just curious, I will wait patiently W/O bugging them, no matter how long it takes...


Peace
 
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Massproducer

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I don't think you are even reading what U posted, it matters not what a club gave you, a club has no authority within the law... I need no clearification, as I have said I AM ALREADY LICENSED and have help many others with their paperwork as well but I am a realist that concentrates on facts and not speculation... My information comes directly via HC themselves...

Now having chronic pain caused by a Spinal Cord Injury qualifies under Cat 1 because of the Spinal Cord Injury, not because of the general catch all term of Chronic Pain... Chronic Pain simply means pain lasting more then 3 months, you could have chronic ANY pain, it is what that is causing your pain that qualifies you under a specific Category. All Cat 1 does is basically move your file to the front of the line, so your application and renews and such are suppose to get priority over the Cat 2 applicants.

Apartmentblower, give HC a call and check the status, that usually gets the ball rolling again. Good luck bro
 
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