BhT goes toe-to-toe with tea party fanatics

[dagnabit]

The Community Reinvestment Act of the late 70s birth the financial crisis FYI. Government interference lead to a distorted market and the housing bubble under Fanny and Freddie. Government screwed it up, blamed the private sector and then used taxpayer money to bail themselves out. Hello TEA party.

As far as the Autos: If they were allowed to go bankrupt they would have been allowed to restructure and possibly emerge leaner and stronger but it was really all about a bailout for the Unions. They would not have closed their doors instead Obama screwed the bondholders and gave the company to the unions. Cash for clunkers was another disaster/distortion on so many levels.

You want a shovel-ready jobs? Lets get to work on a border fence. Now there's a win/win.

Mccain/Palin: Sarah has more wisdom concerning resources and energy independence as it relates to development and national security than the president. That's another sector that this administration has screwed up thanks to his environmental wacko base.

Vote yes on prop 19 and no on Barbara Boxer.

juan mccainudo
and gov. clownshoes were no options...they and obama are wholly owned subsidiaries of goldman sachs.
the fact that people even believe there is a difference shows they are doing their jobs in herding the sheep...

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000085

^^^^^^

hmmmm the company who basically invented the derivatives and CDS markets was the #1 contributor to both campaigns?!?!?!?

that same company donates (owns) D's and R's in both houses?!!?!?!?

and we quibble about right and left?

man they have done a great job at turning people into tools how does it feel knowing you are the wrench being used to turn your own thumb screws?

"toe to toe with the tea party"

toe to toe with Americans so both your backs are turned to your common enemy.

 

[dagnabit]

not trying to over-extrapolate or anything, but this really is a crux of the biscuit, topically.

irrational and angry really isn't going to fix much.

lol no anger on the dems side?
completely rational correct?

 

[gdtrfb]

dunno, man.

could it be that you see race baiting from only one political direction?

no political organization is as pure as you make out the tea parties. i'm sorry, it just doesn't happen.

i also get that you are angry, i just don't see much point to eviscerating fellow tokers because of politics. BHT didn't create the economic climate, i didn't create credit default swaps, and nobody here is in a position to do sweet fuckall besides voting. in other words, be angry if it makes you happy, but for chrissakes, learn where to point it. it aint at somebody who went to a rally to try to pimp prop 19 and ran into troglodytes.

if you really, really, really believe that these people don't exist, i don't know what to tell you. every area is different, but where i'm at, tea parties are socially conservative dominated - this libertarian streak being espoused isn't in existence. if that aint drawing clear enough lines between point A and point B, social conservatives are about as far from friendly to your and my hobby as a person can get. that they engage in as much race baiting behavior as an Al Sharpton with Jesse Jackson rammed up their asses is entirely secondary from the parts i actually care about - it's politics, it's nigh unto expected.

 

[gdtrfb]

lol no anger on the dems side?
completely rational correct?

i guess by my reckoning, 'irrational' would be taking what i said as support for democrats.

you could say 'yah, but the designated hitter rule ruined baseball' and have as much to do with what i actually said.

 

[dagnabit]

i guess by my reckoning, 'irrational' would be taking what i said as support for democrats.

you could say 'yah, but the designated hitter rule ruined baseball' and have as much to do with what i actually said.

stay vague my friend...
its as passive as they want you to be

 

[gdtrfb]

its as passive as they want you to be

the 5 jewish bankers, the bilderbergers, or the trilateral commission?

i guess if i'm going to be playing my part in your conspiracy theory, i should know who's holding my strings.

 

[dagnabit]

the 5 jewish bankers, the bilderbergers, or the trilateral commission?

i guess if i'm going to be playing my part in your conspiracy theory, i should know who's holding my strings.

those are someone else's delusions not mine..
nope special interest groups and the politicians themselves.
i dont need imaginary kabals or mystical secret societies...the proof is in the pudding...
the repubs and dems serve the same corporatemasters.
the differences are there to keep the rams among the sheep butting heads while the rest of the flock are fleeced.

like i said toe to toe turns your back on the true enemy

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

If you have no trust in government, how can your party be trusted to fix government?

aren't tea parties for little girls and mad hatters, anyhow?

 

[Baba Ku]

No party will fix government. Only the people can do that. And most likely will.

 

[gdtrfb]

the repubs and dems serve the same corporatemasters.

i guess the part where i'm left turning my head like a dog being taught algebra is that 'tea party' candidates are republicans.

not the bad nasty republicans, these will be different. or something.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

No party will fix government. Only the people can do that. And most likely will.

How can those who have no trust in government be trusted to fix government?



also... never underestimate the stupidity of the voting public.

 

[Baba Ku]

How can those who have no trust in government be trusted to fix government?



also... never underestimate the stupidity of the voting public.

I think you confuse those who have no trust in government, with the people that want government to only have the authority vested to it by the Nation's charter.
I would dare say that a majority of the TEA party participants would trust the government to the full extent it should be trusted, if it were actually being ran as was intended. At present it is not.

The stupidity of the voting public, and its repercussions, have been on full display of late.
But as with many things, people have it in their nature to try and right some of the foolish mistakes they made in the past. Hide and watch how that works next month. It is amazing how it works out too.

 

[dagnabit]

If you have no trust in government, how can your party be trusted to fix government?

aren't tea parties for little girls and mad hatters, anyhow?

my party?

i dont tow a line..

and no i do not trust government.
do you?

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

if it were actually being ran as was intended. At present it is not.

Nor will it ever be.
Especially since the founding fathers were the first ones to disagree on how it is intended to run...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

and no i do not trust government.
do you?

I trust government more than I trust human nature.

A world without government would not be a very pleasant or equitable place to live.


note: there is a big difference in trusting government and trusting 'the government'

 

[dagnabit]

i guess the part where i'm left turning my head like a dog being taught algebra is that 'tea party' candidates are republicans.

not the bad nasty republicans, these will be different. or something.

no TP candidates ARE repubs. and democrats...
they are the same.
the differences are wedge issues designed to be bait to distract you from the slow march AWAY from our founding principles.

just look at head..

trust government to fix government.

like saying "trust a junkie to run your pharmacy"

 

[gdtrfb]

trust government to fix government.

what's your suggestion?

as is, i thought getting elected to government positions was the entire point of political parties.

 

[dagnabit]

I trust government more than I trust human nature.

what is government?
did we elect non human entities?
nope..
you can only trust government as far as you trust human nature(if you use logic in your thinking)since "government" is made up of humans...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

no TP candidates ARE repubs. and democrats...
they are the same.
the differences are wedge issues designed to be bait to distract you from the slow march AWAY from our founding principles.

just look at head..

trust government to fix government.

like saying "trust a junkie to run your pharmacy"

Where did I say "trust government to fix government."?

Damn I hate it when people distort what I said to make it mean something completely different.... how very 'tea party' of you.

 

[Baba Ku]

I trust government more than I trust human nature.

Well, there it is in a nutshell.

If not for the people, there is no need for, or even an existence of government. And as it is made up by the people, it is an extension of the people. And as such, is founded on the very essence of human nature.

Your statement really is nonsensical to the fullest extent possible. Almost like an argument brought about for arguments sake only.