Making money online, suggestions?

[medicalgreen]

Making money online is possible, but not easy and not overnight.
Contact me and i'll show you how I do it. Lots of tricks involved, none of them illegal.

 

[InvisibleEmpire]

Mitch, a close friend of mine won over 80,000 in poker tournaments and was on an ESPN poker tournament.

He admits that the game is primarily learning how to read players rather than the cards. He says reading the cards and guessing your odds clearly plays a part, but he also admits that it's a game of chance.

I don't play on games of chance...regardless of how good you can be at reading other players. Forex trading for example has trends which can be easily read (once you have the knowledge) and easily predicted. It's not like poker in which every hand is going to be a random, chance hand...and it all depends on the players you're with and just guessing random odds. It's much clearer than that, but takes a good amount of skill in that particular market and learning the trends, ways to invest, how much to risk, etc.

Lastly...me and my poker friend did some research. We both tell anyone we know do NOT join online poker websites because there are major issues with online poker vs in-person/real life poker. Always go to a casino or play in person as your chances are truly random and you can read your players in real time.

Online poker fails in many aspects and most of the games are rigged in many different aspects.

Multiple forums, multiple online videos document how Poker Stars, Full Tilt, the like...all use percentages built into the coding of their system to rig how the outcome of any particular game goes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlKXvU6T7GE

as an example. another aspect is that online poker sucks in new players by giving anyone who deposits money a "winning streak", then after a few winning games you just lose horribly on otherwise GREAT hands. i tested this theory myself by depositing $20...won $40 on top of my initial $20, then lost it all when I played 3 separate games...I've had guys with 4,5 go ALL IN on me when I had A A, flop was A 7 Q, (i had AAA, he had nada, but still went all in) and the last 2 cards were 6, 8. My poker friend was there for that game and said "WOW...in all my years of playing he never saw someone make such a stupid bet, in a real money game, with those cards on the flop, and turn out winning."

He resorted to believing that it was 'luck of the draw', so we played a few more games. Like the above video details, there were many all-in instances in which EXTREMELY stupid bets beat out GREAT hands, and after seeing the subsequent 2 games in which i had dominating hands get beat by flushes or straights on the river, he told me to quit and never go back. haven't touched online poker to this day.

on that youtube video...just look at the related videos on the right...go through them all...you'll see what i mean...then read the below forum posts (dozens of members who posted up their hands being beat by almost impossible hands):

http://www.blindbetpoker.com/subfolder/forum/t1101-pokerstars-is-rigged.html

PokerStars' manager admitted that out of millions of accounts, less than or around 1% of the players are caught cheating. Let's just go with his estimate, and to be nice, lets say only .05% of the millions (quick google search results with PS having over 20 million members) of members are caught cheating...no...let's be nice... .02% of all of the members are caught cheating...that's 4,000 members cheating. that's a lot of motherfuckers who are using bots, software, hacks...to beat other members. and that's just the people who are CAUGHT....

...use our growing as an example...how many people successfully pull off grow after grow, and how many people are caught? we all know there's never been a time that weed was never around SOMEWHERE...so...you see what i mean...there may only be .02% or 1% of people caught, but what if the actual number is truly 1%, or 2%, or even 5%? you never know...

bottom line: poker can make you money once you learn the tricks of the trade (calculating odds in your head, bluffing, calling bluffs, reading other players, knowing when and when not to bet, etc) but it boils down to a game of chance. market trading or currency trading on the other hand does clearly fluctuate, but again it's not a game of chance and when you learn the trends and read the charts you can literally watch prices go up, watch prices fall, and look at historical graphs...whereas that is impossible in games of chance like poker.

 

[Mitch Connor]

Congratulations to your friend who has made a living from poker, tournaments can be very profitable if played correctly.

I agree, a live setting at a casino is always better than online, for the reasons you have mentioned. I hit up the casino Friday after work and all day Saturday. There's all sorts of people wanting to give me their money after they get their checks.

I'm very aware of the negative aspects of online poker. I'm with you on the point you made about random hands beating out big hands at odd times. If I had a dollar every time that happened to me, where I'd be a 95% favorite to win a hand and end up losing to 2 random cards, I'd be rich. There are times where I go on an insane rush with random cards, flopping sets/houses. There are times when I get an absurd amount of pocket pairs within a 30 minute span, and I end up folding most of them preflop because I smell something fishy. I've always had the "cheating" aspect in the back of my mind, whether it comes from the program client itself or the players.

The truth is, there is no way to know if online poker sites are fraudulent. You just learn the trade, and make your profit as best as you can. Therefore, it is possible to make a living from online poker.

I'm still not sure what you're trying to get at here. Are you trying to say that trading shares is more profitable for the time put in? That is obvious. No doubt in my mind you can make more money from stocks than poker for the time put in. Give me a $10 000 starting capital, and in 3 months of studying everything about stocks, I could probably make more than online poker, given the same set of parameters.

I am simply stating my past experience with making money online. Is it the easiest? Hell no. Is it for everybody? No way.

Online trading is easier, faster, less random, and suited for more of the general public than online poker is. That's a given. If the thread title was "What is the easiest fastest safest way to make money online", you would win.

Bottom line: Your reality differs from mine. What works for you may not work for someone else. I hope you have accomplished what you intended in your post, whatever that may have been.

 

[InvisibleEmpire]

Congratulations to your friend who has made a living from poker, tournaments can be very profitable if played correctly.

I agree, a live setting at a casino is always better than online, for the reasons you have mentioned. I hit up the casino Friday after work and all day Saturday. There's all sorts of people wanting to give me their money after they get their checks.

I'm very aware of the negative aspects of online poker. I'm with you on the point you made about random hands beating out big hands at odd times. If I had a dollar every time that happened to me, where I'd be a 95% favorite to win a hand and end up losing to 2 random cards, I'd be rich. There are times where I go on an insane rush with random cards, flopping sets/houses. There are times when I get an absurd amount of pocket pairs within a 30 minute span, and I end up folding most of them preflop because I smell something fishy. I've always had the "cheating" aspect in the back of my mind, whether it comes from the program client itself or the players.

The truth is, there is no way to know if online poker sites are fraudulent. You just learn the trade, and make your profit as best as you can. Therefore, it is possible to make a living from online poker.

I'm still not sure what you're trying to get at here. Are you trying to say that trading shares is more profitable for the time put in? That is obvious. No doubt in my mind you can make more money from stocks than poker for the time put in. Give me a $10 000 starting capital, and in 3 months of studying everything about stocks, I could probably make more than online poker, given the same set of parameters.

I am simply stating my past experience with making money online. Is it the easiest? Hell no. Is it for everybody? No way.

Online trading is easier, faster, less random, and suited for more of the general public than online poker is. That's a given. If the thread title was "What is the easiest fastest safest way to make money online", you would win.

Bottom line: Your reality differs from mine. What works for you may not work for someone else. I hope you have accomplished what you intended in your post, whatever that may have been.

Everyone's reality differs from each others...that's obvious...

The point I was trying to make if you didn't pick up on it is that if I had to refer people to 1 of 2 things, gambling or investing in currency trading...i'd tell them to invest in currency trading before i would say invest in gambling. Given any sort of trading (currency, stock) has risks involved and is technically a 'gamble', but isn't anything other than a 9-5 a gamble? You go to work and take home a paycheck knowing full well as long as you put in the hours, you're getting paid. That isn't so with gambling or the stock market or currency market, but again I would have to say I'd ask people to educate themselves on forex trading before i would recommend something like poker or any gambling.

Not that you CAN'T make money with poker, it's just that a system that has ADMITTED there are cheaters (which clearly screws the odds right off the bat) compounded with the fact that the system is CLEARLY inherently flawed, rigged, fixed or coded with stuff that is anything but truly random...is not something I'd recommend to people. I will agree with you though yes, live poker or casino poker is your best bet as things are truly random unless someone (the dealer) is playing the system.

people can spend countless hours online with affiliate marketing or domain flipping, but i find that to be a niche market for those who have years of experience doing it and unless you plan on being low man on the totem pole for years or have an insane amount of money to fund your risks, it will take a LONG ass time to see any decent returns.

over the years the key thing i've seen where people make INSANE money, quick, is to be involved with current trends and hop on it IMMEDIATELY like those with the acai berry thing did or those who made a ton of cash using fake programs on facebook luring people into do surveys...they're still doing this by the way but it's a bit trickier, and you have to have knowledge of HTML, javascript, facebook coding, etc...to get anywhere...

 

[robbiedublu]

There are a bunch of different stock indexes okay? look to the OTC index! What you do is u get a TD ameritrade account and use their stock screener to screen OTC stocks... start watching it at market open, a stock WILL go up 30-300% on the otc everyday.. watch out because they go right back down... buy $40-$200 worth of the stock, BAM (sell the stock) in as little as 30 mins you just made 30% or 100% on ur 200$... college kids make hundreds of 1000's doin this.. if u kno compound interest, it can help become mega rich

Make it so the odds are on your side.. and thats the best godam advice any1 could give u

Are you serious?? If it were that easy why would anyone even bother with college?

 

[pearlemae]

As for making money on line If it sounds to good to be true it usually is to good to be true. Do a lot of research about any online deals.

 

[Yes4Prop215]

money online is chump change...i was in your situation years ago...part time jobs combined with school is a hard life....so i bought an OZ, broke it down into 8ths. did that for a month or so then i bought a QP and broke it down. then it was HPs, then Ps, then 2 packs, 3 packs, etc. after a few years selling to rich college kids with almost unlimited bank accounts i had a nice stack and was paying my bills and having extra for booze and other fun things...now i make more money than anybody in my graduating class...

 

[Hammerhead]

competition is fierce depending on location. La is bank if you can have a safe place to do business. They dont have any Med Laws there so if caught by by for a long time.