ICMAG Administration endorses The Regulate, Control and Tax Cannabis Act of 2010

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Man I read a good bit of this thread and the opposing people have not a single good fact or reason to vote no... Aside from the fact that they are lazy no good fucks who live off bleeding money from sick people... They just worried they gonna have to get a fuckin job and their so called elite clones will be phazed out by real dank... That's a fact.. No voters are future homeless... I'll send you some canned goods if you vote yes... Gotta love how they say big business is gonna take over, ya that's life small time douches... Sharks eat smaller fish...

nail ... coffin pretty much although I might have not expressed it exactly the way you did

 

[BigDaddyTrax]

Voting YES for sure. The government is going to control our lives. It's what they do. What this bill does is make personal consumption legal for adults. How awesome is that!?

What people are forgetting is that large grow operations are ALREADY ILLEGAL and even if you have all the proper paperwork to be a med co-op, the police will most likely still give you a hard time or find SOMETHING illegal with what you're doing. I see this Prop as a HUGE step in the right direction. If nothing else, I think it will change the perspective that non-smokers may have. I see this bill as giving far more rights than it is taking away. Sorry that all you larger growers are going to have to pay taxes LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS. lol How unfair.

And as far as complaining that 25 sq ft isn't enough space, with a little creativity, it's PLENTY!

 

[vta]

Source: Capitol Weekly (Sacramento, CA)
Author: Jennifer Chaussee


FOLLOW THE MONEY: THE IMPACT OF LEGALIZED POT

The arguments surrounding the controversial measure to legalize and tax the recreational use of marijuana have relied at least in part on speculation.

Aside from the ideological and political differences that pit the measure's supporters against its opposition, neither side knows for sure how the initiative will affect California's economy.

Proponents of the Nov. 2 ballot initiative, Proposition 19, say decriminalizing the recreational use of marijuana would allow the state to rake in some much-needed cash by taxing sales of the herb. The Yes on 19 campaign stated that the Board of Equalization estimated the measure would bring in an additional $1.4 billion in annual revenue.

But that estimate came from an analysis of a different piece of cannabis legalization legislation authored by Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D- San Francisco. That bill seeks a $50-per-ounce taxation rate on marijuana sales. And the debate over the dollar impact is almost as fierce as the debate over the initiative.

The literature of Proposition 19 does not include any such tax. In fact, the measure itself does not require local governments to impose a set tax on the sale of marijuana nor does it require local governments to license marijuana distributors.

Nate Bradley, a member of a pro-Proposition 19 group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and a former Sutter County Deputy Sheriff, said the measure is written this way to gradually attract local governments to the economic and social benefits of legalizing and taxing marijuana.

Bradley said focus group studies revealed more people were comfortable with legalizing marijuana under the condition that their local governments were able to participate voluntarily. "One county will start ( selling marijuana ) and others will follow," said Bradley.

Board of Equalization spokeswoman Anita Gore said that without a set taxation rate to work with, estimating the potential fiscal effects of Proposition 19 is almost impossible. There is no telling, said Gore, what counties will participate in the sale or taxation of marijuana. Out of those counties that would embrace the new law, it is equally unclear how they will choose to tax recreational cannabis.

The BOE released an analysis of Proposition 19 just recently but the report did not include a conclusive fiscal analysis of the initiative.

"The legalization policy proposed by this measure complicates the revenue estimation task considerably," read the BOE's fiscal analysis of Proposition 19.

The board staff said it does "not know which local jurisdictions will choose to authorize the sale of marijuana products... ( and ) is not able to create estimates of marijuana consumption and price at the local level."

The report also noted that the tax experts on the BOE staff were not able to estimate the impact that legalization, local regulation, and taxation will have on the consumption and price for those jurisdictions that choose to authorize sales.

The Legislative Analyst's Office, the Legislature's nonpartisan fiscal adviser, faced similar challenges in its report on Proposition 19 but was able to provide a rough revenue estimate. "We estimate that the state and local governments could eventually collect hundreds of millions of dollars annually in additional revenues." But even the LAO's estimate was trimmed by disclaimer.

"The revenue and expenditure impacts of this measure are subject to significant uncertainty...It is unknown how many local governments would choose to license establishments that would grow or sell marijuana or impose an excise tax on such sales."

A study by the nonprofit research group RAND echoed the uncertainty.

"There is considerable uncertainty about the impact of legalizing marijuana in California in public budgets."

But the RAND report also noted that "the pretax retail price of marijuana will substantially decline, likely by more than 80 percent. The price the consumers face will depend heavily on taxes, the structure of the regulatory regime, and how taxes and regulations are enforced."

The No on 19 campaign has sharply criticized the measure for being vague and sloppy in its wording, referring to it as "a jumbled legal nightmare."

Spokesman Roger Salazar said, "The revenue is not going to be anywhere near what the proponents claim. There is nothing in the initiative that lays out what the taxes should be on marijuana if Proposition 19 passes. It wouldn't be worth the headache."

Assemblyman Ammiano introduced a follow up bill Tuesday that would create the Marijuana Control and Regulation Act of 2010, to take effect after the passage of Proposition 19. The objectives of the act include raising funds and trying to "discourage substance abuse by the imposition of a substantial fee on the legal sale of marijuana, the proceeds of which will support drug education and awareness programs."

A part of those funds will come from charging a licensing fee to marijuana sellers.

"The fee for the license shall be set at an amount that will reasonably cover the costs of ensuring compliance with the regulations to be issued, but may not exceed five thousand dollars ( $5,000 ) for an initial application, or two thousand five hundred dollars ( $2,500 ) per year for each annual renewal."

The act also specifies that no person can legally sell marijuana or any of its derivatives without proper licensing.

Apart from the concerns over how much revenue the measure may or may not provide to the government through taxation, a group of medical marijuana distributors have raised concerns that Proposition 19 threatens the rights of patients who rely on cannabis prescriptions by jeopardizing medical marijuana distribution businesses.

The newly formed group known as the California Cannabis Association held a press release on the West Steps of the Capitol on Tuesday to announce their opposition to Proposition 19.

CCA President George Mull said the measure does not protect medicinal marijuana patients because it allows counties to decide whether or not they want to allow for the legal sale of marijuana within their jurisdictions, jeopardizing the rights of medicinal marijuana businesses to distribute the drug.

Mull and other CCA members, to include Lanette Davies, whose family owns the explosively successful Canna Care medical marijuana distributor, also said that Proposition 19 could impose unfair taxes onto licensed patients.

Ammiano's proposed Marijuana Control and Regulation Act responds to this concern by stating the act will. "Exclude medical marijuana from the fees and regulations imposed by this act."

Yes on 19 campaign spokesman Dan Newman said Proposition 19 "will not change or affect current medical cannabis laws or protections offered to qualified patients. Patients will still be able to possess what is needed for medical use, and patients, caregivers and medical cannabis collectives and cooperatives will retain all existing rights."

Despite concerns from the medical marijuana industry and a collection of law enforcement groups that have spoken out in opposition to Proposition 19, the LAO's report on the measure said it could lead to a reduction in law enforcement costs for local governments.

"The measure could result in savings to the state and local governments by reducing the number of marijuana offenders incarcerated in state prisons and county jails, as well as the number placed under county probation or state parole supervision."

Several local Democratic Party organizations agree.

"California should stop arresting thousands of non-violent cannabis consumers, freeing up police resources and saving millions of dollars each year, which could be used for apprehending truly dangerous criminals and keeping them locked up, and for other essential state needs that lack funding," read a press release from the Alameda County Democratic Party on its announced support of Proposition 19.

According to a press release from the Yes on 19 campaign, Democratic Parties in L.A., Butte, Madera, Modoc, Monterey, Orange, Placer, San Francisco, Siskiyou, and Sonoma County have endorsed the measure.

Bradley said one of the greatest costs to law enforcement is the cost of writing tickets to citizens charged with carrying less than an ounce of marijuana.

"The ticket is a misdemeanor charge with a maximum fine of $100 but it costs the county $1,000 to process...If we just stopped writing those tickets we'd save an instant $60 million a year."

Bradley referred to the current "drug war" as "a huge waste of money for local government" and said Proposition 19 would end that waste by freeing up unnecessary bureaucracy in the conviction process of marijuana users.

"It is unclear whether the fiscal benefits of Proposition 19 would be massive, immense, or merely substantial and significant, but there is no question that Prop 19 would generate billions of dollars," said Dan Newman, spokesman for the Yes on 19 campaign.

Apart from potential savings in local law enforcement, marijuana and its distributors would be subject to at least the same sales and business taxes as other taxable products in California. With sales and business tax alone, the initiative is likely to bring in at least some revenue to local governments. The evasive question is simply "how much?" and, as voiced by the No on 19 campaign, would it be worth "the headache?"

 

[vta]

LETTER OF THE WEEK

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA: TIME TO ACT IS NOW

Your editorial against Proposition 19 ( "No on Prop. 19," Sept. 16 ) once again shows that The Chronicle clearly hasn't done its homework with regard to marijuana policy.

Indeed, the devil is in the details, and with closer review, you would have understood that Prop. 19 is more than just a "slogan or concept." It is an opportunity to overturn the utter failure of years of marijuana prohibition.

I introduced AB390 nearly two years ago not only to address California's economic crisis but more importantly to begin a rational discussion about how best to regulate the state's largest cash crop, estimated to be worth roughly $14 billion a year.

The reality is clear: Marijuana is a huge part of our state's economy, and we can no longer afford to keep our heads in the sand. The time to act is now. No bill or proposition is perfect, and certainly Prop. 19 has some flaws, but to agree that the "war on drugs" has been an abject failure yet refuse to take action to change it simply defies all logic and common sense.

At what point do we say enough is enough? In 2008 alone, more than 61,000 Californians were arrested for misdemeanor marijuana possession. That same year, about 60,000 violent crimes went unsolved statewide. Resources tied up fighting marijuana would be better spent solving and preventing violent felonies and other major crimes. In its report on Prop. 19, the state Legislative Analyst's Office wrote that "jail beds needed for marijuana offenders could be used for other criminals who are now being released early because of a lack of jail space."

Regulating and controlling marijuana would make it less available to our youth, protect our public lands from illicit crops, generate new revenue and improve public safety by allowing our law enforcement agencies to reprioritize their efforts towardz more serious crimes.

As a member of the state Assembly, I believe we must bring innovation and problem solving toward creating a sane public policy for marijuana, not just stand idly by and wait for the federal government to act. Fighting for same-sex marriage and creating Healthy San Francisco are clear examples of how change happens. Prop. 19 is our opportunity to reform a policy that has been a catastrophe for our state.

This spirit is what makes California great: We lead, not follow, and I urge people to help move California forward with its policy on marijuana before it goes up in smoke.

Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco

Pubdate: Sat, 18 Sep 2010

Source: San Francisco Chronicle ( CA )

Referenced: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v10/n000/a041.html

 

[zen_trikester]

I agree. this is one of the strongest points of the prop. It is very clear that what you smoked a week ago or last night is no reason to fire somebody, and it puts the burden of proof on the employer. There is, by the way, a device that actually, or atleast more closely determines thc intoxication similar to a breathalizer. It uses a saliva sample and nanotechnology. It has been developed and tucked away. I assume they are waiting for November in Cali., but they told me it was more corporate posturing that was keeping it off market at this time. Phillips was working on it in the Netherlands with a company out of Mexico. I was in contact with them about it a few months ago but they were very tight lipped. This is the last info I got from them:

Quote:
<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset;"><style>@font-face { font-family: "Cambria Math"; }@font-face { font-family: "Calibri"; }p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal { margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; }.MsoChpDefault { font-size: 10pt; }div.Section1 { page: Section1; }</style>Thanks for your interest in the DOA Magnotech project and you right that the general saliva profile for cannabis offer a different window than in urine . Philips has been collaborating since 2006 with Cozart/Concateno to develop next-generation handheld drugs of abuse tests based on saliva testing. In 2009 Concateno PLC was acquired by Inverness Medical Innovations. Following this acquisition, both parties are now evaluating the above collaboration. The announced launch date of the handheld drugs of abuse test has been postponed pending completion of this evaluation.</td></tr></tbody></table>


**edit*** Please don't everyone go slamming phillips looking for more info on this device I referenced. I just emailed my contact and will post whatever news I can accumulate. If they get a million emails about this nobody will get any info!

OK,
For the record. This device is being released in Germany this November. It has been promised to be the Holy Grail for the UK to determine actual intoxication for drugged driving traffic stops.
Concateno is the one who is making the release in Germany and if you reed the news and drugs of abuse product info on their website you will find the info. It has already been shown to police in the UK and is being used/tested in a few major city's throughout Europe.


This started as being Philips and Concateno and then Concateno was bought by Inverness medical inovations. Then inverness adoped the nmame of one of there smaller holdings as their main company name. The new company name is Alere, and it seems to me that they are holding all the cards. Concateno is listed on the London stock market, Phillips and Alere are both listed in the NY stock exchange.

So, I am not some stock market guro so don't take this as sound advice, but I did purchase stock in Both Alere and in Philips. I may still invest in Concateno too but haven't decided yet. So there you go. The device is going to be available it seems and from what I have read it seems to work.

Jed

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

OK,
For the record. This device is being released in Germany this November. It has been promised to be the Holy Grail for the UK to determine actual intoxication for drugged driving traffic stops.
Concateno is the one who is making the release in Germany and if you reed the news and drugs of abuse product info on their website you will find the info. It has already been shown to police in the UK and is being used/tested in a few major city's throughout Europe.


This started as being Philips and Concateno and then Concateno was bought by Inverness medical inovations. Then inverness adoped the nmame of one of there smaller holdings as their main company name. The new company name is Alere, and it seems to me that they are holding all the cards. Concateno is listed on the London stock market, Phillips and Alere are both listed in the NY stock exchange.

I'll

So, I am not some stock market guro so don't take this as sound advice, but I did purchase stock in Both Alere and in Philips. I may still invest in Concateno too but haven't decided yet. So there you go. The device is going to be available it seems and from what I have read it seems to work.

Jed

I'll have to buy one if this becomes protocol and find how to sell a product to circumvent it. Saliva is fairly easy. In the past I've used cranberry juice to pass these tests so I'm certain we will find away to do the same with this device...

 

[zen_trikester]

I'll have to buy one if this becomes protocol and find how to sell a product to circumvent it. Saliva is fairly easy. In the past I've used cranberry juice to pass these tests so I'm certain we will find away to do the same with this device...

They already do have saliva test circumvention products. You are missing the part where this helps the legalization fight though. Many people believe that the reason that Pot has been held down so long is because of how it shows in tests. One major song of the opponents is that employers will have no way to prevent smoking at work, and another is that drugged driving will be a new epidemic with no way to know for sure if a person actually is intoxicated.

I think most smokers agree that smoking a bowl is not going to affect your driving skills like a 6-pack would, but the public at large doesn't really understand that. They also don't understand how it wares off if a couple of hours.

I see this as a device that makes possible federal legalization and I think the ability to test accurately is needed. If an employer is paying me to work for him I feel he deserves the respect of me being 100% on the ball when I am working. After hours, on MY time I think the employer can kiss my ass. This device will allow for that distinction. I'm sure not everyone believes that, and I know people who smoke 24/7 and feel they are unaffected by MJ regardless of what they are doing. I am not like that and I feel I am the norm but maybe not. The people who don't smoke often or who are new to pot will have the hardest time functioning when high. Us vets are less effected since we have wrapped our heads around the buzz countless times.

Jed

 

[SKUNK420]

Man I read a good bit of this thread and the opposing people have not a single good fact or reason to vote no... Aside from the fact that they are lazy no good fucks who live off bleeding money from sick people... They just worried they gonna have to get a fuckin job and their so called elite clones will be phazed out by real dank... That's a fact.. No voters are future homeless... I'll send you some canned goods if you vote yes... Gotta love how they say big business is gonna take over, ya that's life small time douches... Sharks eat smaller fish...

so do you believe in capitalism?
I only ask that because as I breakdown your statement like a monday night football marijuana analyst it seems that you want people to get up off the butts and stop waiting for government to give them bail outs and stop growing pot for money and get a real job. Your also willing to help people with food instead of telling people to go get food stamps.

I see you telling people your opinions and claiming them to be fact or I could say the end all facts to shut down a conversation. How can anybody have anything to say against your facts ( which are really opinions you want to claim as fact). Is it fact because you say so? well just like there are many that support your point of view for sure the posts ojn here support that. There are also just as many oppossing your point of view so does that make their opinion facts more fact then yours? Nope it's all Fing opinions

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
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[Neo 420]

Sorry to interrupt your regular scheduled posting but check out what I got in my email today:

Dear xxxxxx (Blacked out to protect my identity)

Did you see yesterday's news? It made the front pages of the San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee, and I wanted to share it with you.

A new Field Poll, one of the most respected polls in California, has us up 7 points -- 49-42. That's an 11 point swing from their last poll in July.

Can you help us keep up the momentum?

Help keep the momentum going. Contribute $5 today!

Believe me, our opponents and the politicians are taking notice -- and they're scared. Field Poll was the only poll from the summer that had us down; now, every respected poll has us winning on November 2.

The reason for this shift is simple: It's because of the generosity of people like you. While the opposition gets big checks from the alcohol lobby, our campaign is supported by small donations from folks like you.

Your support pays for the phone lines, our press staff, our online ads -- all the key ingredients to winning a major election. And that's what's allowed us to register thousands of voters, secure important endorsements, and grow our movement.

We're so close to becoming the first state to legalize, control, and tax cannabis. Chip in $5 to keep the momentum going and lead us to victory!

I can't thank you enough for your support.

Sincerely,

Richard Lee
Proponent, Yes on 19

 

[SCF]

....When ICmag votes in California....let me know.

icmag does vote in California. and im fucking YES, YES, and YES.

So they can leave us medical patients alone!!!!

Voting YES for sure. The government is going to control our lives. It's what they do. What this bill does is make personal consumption legal for adults. How awesome is that!?

What people are forgetting is that large grow operations are ALREADY ILLEGAL and even if you have all the proper paperwork to be a med co-op, the police will most likely still give you a hard time or find SOMETHING illegal with what you're doing. I see this Prop as a HUGE step in the right direction. If nothing else, I think it will change the perspective that non-smokers may have. I see this bill as giving far more rights than it is taking away. Sorry that all you larger growers are going to have to pay taxes LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS. lol How unfair.

And as far as complaining that 25 sq ft isn't enough space, with a little creativity, it's PLENTY!

 

[StoneElemental]

Hmm, I'd be inclined to send 50$. Thats just me however and me wanting very badly to believe that not only prop19 will succeed but that mr. Lee isn't such a bad dude haha. Thanks for some continued info tho.

-S.E.

Sorry to interrupt your regular scheduled posting but check out what I got in my email today:

Dear xxxxxx (Blacked out to protect my identity)

Did you see yesterday's news? It made the front pages of the San Francisco Chronicle and Sacramento Bee, and I wanted to share it with you.

A new Field Poll, one of the most respected polls in California, has us up 7 points -- 49-42. That's an 11 point swing from their last poll in July.

Can you help us keep up the momentum?

Help keep the momentum going. Contribute $5 today!

Believe me, our opponents and the politicians are taking notice -- and they're scared. Field Poll was the only poll from the summer that had us down; now, every respected poll has us winning on November 2.

The reason for this shift is simple: It's because of the generosity of people like you. While the opposition gets big checks from the alcohol lobby, our campaign is supported by small donations from folks like you.

Your support pays for the phone lines, our press staff, our online ads -- all the key ingredients to winning a major election. And that's what's allowed us to register thousands of voters, secure important endorsements, and grow our movement.

We're so close to becoming the first state to legalize, control, and tax cannabis. Chip in $5 to keep the momentum going and lead us to victory!

I can't thank you enough for your support.

Sincerely,

Richard Lee
Proponent, Yes on 19

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

Lets keep it going!!!! Vote 19 in now. Then ABX6-9 will get passed to better represent what the people of california would like to see. It's win/win people. The year is 2010 let the RE-legalization begin!!!

 

[215forLife]

FYI please do NOT confuse "California Cannabis Associates" with my company California Cannabis Incorporated.

I've actually changed my position on 19.

Without getting into the details... basically it boils down to being able to beat the feds in court. Look cannabis should already be rescheduled according to the federal controlled substances act... well actually there is ONE thing holding it up, UN Treaty,... the treaty referenced allows nations to sell and distribute cannabis provided there is State Licensing and Control.

Basically Prop 19 fills in that void. Just as prop 215 filled the void to prove accepted medical use for weed.

I just might start a thread about it... oh and one more thing,..

Fuck Lanette Davies and CannaCare. That bitch is 100X more a monopolist than Richard Lee. She is the bitch who actually went to Sacramento city council and begged for the damn moratorium to prevent new competition. Honestly I was opposed to 19 because I thought it would allow her ilk to fuck over potential competition, now that I see she has jumped on the no on 19 bandwagon, I've finally seen that it truely is the GREEDY ones who don't want competition who oppose this.

Major apologies to people who oppose prop 19 because of my statements. I suggest you listen to Time 4 Hemp on Thursday night for more detail and clarification.

 

[kmk420kali]

I've actually changed my position on 19.

Every time somebody does this...one of Micheal Vicks' dogs come back to life!!

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

dammed if you do! dammed if you dont!

dammed if you do! dammed if you dont!

First of all it is mostly the twenty something growers that oppose Prop 19 because of fears of loss of income. They like how it is now, under 215. I know lots of older growers that will vote yes on Prop 19, even if it does reduce their income, because it is the right thing to do.

its much more easy to do your thing in holland compared to Garberville isnt it...
SAM well when you see my pops homeless on the side of the road at 67 with a carboard sign that says help a homeless pot farmer...
i hope you have over a few of your Sativex Bucks ..
HortaParm is sitting on the Big Pharm sidelines with all the rest waiting for the The Green light...
We all know the only one that wins in this is Big $$$

Sam you better than anyone "MMJ" is a label just an excuse!
all the way up in untill mid 80's , AIDS patients and the Gay community are mainly the reason there even is a "MMJ" movement

were was the MMJ cry in the 50's 60's 70's even early 80's
do your research look in the mags of the era and watch the change
happen before your eyes

Yes Cannabis has always been used as a Medicine since its discovery
but it was never exploited like it is today...

there needs to be more time before any Hasty Decisions are made
Law wise , wich will hurt this so called MMJ movement more in the long run!
Its been Voodoo for over a 100 yrs or more in society
but now we want it legal in 2 months LOL

Either way i doubt will happen!
International Drug treaties and laws would have to been changed ....
Thats why its not legal in Holland.. , its tolerated!

And do you think the NAACP and the afro american community wants the 1st black president to have the stigma of legalizing cannabis
doubt it my friends !

things are fine how they are ... leave well enough alone..
Cali speaking

In 1974 my pops buddy went to jail in So Ca for 3 years for A JOINT

I think we have came a long way pretty quick!


Just another perspective

 

[toasted1]

umm the NAACP DOES back prop 19 so i dont think any1 is thinkn stigma

"We are joining a growing number of medical professionals, labor organizations, law enforcement authorities, local municipalities, and approximately 56% of the public, in saying that it is time to decriminalize the use of marijuana," said Alice Huffman, president of the NAACP state conference.

stay safe
1

 

[215forLife]

For those people who think that prop 19 will alter prop 215 you need to watch this video:

2 hours 55 minutes watch! WATCH WATCH WATCH!!!

https://www.calchannel.com/channel/viewvideo/829

IF WE WERE TO DECLARE THAT ALL POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA WAS LAWFUL WE WOULD NOT BE AMENDING THE CUA WE WOULD BE CREATING BROADER PROTECTIONS FOR A BROADER CLASS OF PEOPLE.

It is the oral arguments in people v kelly

Seriously the debate is over. Vote yes on 19 people.



fuck man I wish I wasn't such a dumbass for listening to Dennis... fuck

 

[kmk420kali]

For those people who think that prop 19 will alter prop 215 you need to watch this video:

2 hours 55 minutes watch! WATCH WATCH WATCH!!!

https://www.calchannel.com/channel/viewvideo/829

It is the oral arguments in people v kelly

Seriously the debate is over. Vote yes on 19 people.



fuck man I wish I wasn't such a dumbass for listening to Dennis... fuck

I am watching another one from that page right now-- "Joint Informational Hearing on Proposition 19"
Good stuff!!

 

[vta]

Nothing like Cops coming out in favor of legalization.

Cop Campaigns for Pot on Horseback


URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v10/n785/a11.html
Source: Salinas Californian, The (CA)


Howard "Cowboy" Wooldridge, 59, is riding his horse Misty throughout California in support of ending prohibition of marijuana.

Woodridge spent Monday morning near Northridge Mall in Salinas, circling the intersection of North Main Street and Harden Road, waving to passing cars.

He and Misty traveled to California from their home in Fort Worth, Texas. Though Wooldridge is the spokesperson, Misty is the "star." People are drawn to the horse and she opens the door for discussion, he said.

If passed in November, Prop 19 would allow adults over the age of 21 to possess up to an ounce of marijuana for personal use. Individuals could grow marijuana gardens of up to 25 square feet on private property; cities and counties would decide whether to allow sales and taxation of marijuana within their boundaries.

Wooldridge speaks from his 18 years of experience as a police officer in Michigan.

"The war on marijuana is nonsense," he said. "Every hour spent chasing Willie Nelson is an hour spent not catching drunk drivers or child molesters."

Wooldridge retired from active duty in 1994 and has been involved with the movement against the prohibition of marijuana for 13 years. He is one of five founding members of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, an organization of current and former law enforcement officers that now has 14,000 members worldwide.

Woodridge says marijuana should be treated like beer. "As an intoxicant, it is no play toy, but from professional and personal experience, it is safer than alcohol for the user and everyone around."

He hasn't smoked in 32 years.

In 2005, Wooldridge rode Misty from Los Angeles to New York City. Today, she gets the star treatment, riding in a trailer as they travel between cities. This month, they have visited cities across the state, including Sacramento, Stockton, and Fresno. Next month, stops in San Diego and Los Angeles are on their agenda.

 

[SCF]

Everyone who is a Serious voter, needs to read that initiative line for line. Jack Herer Passed away recently. He worked so hard to get this on our ballets. now its up to us, to vote it in. Read every single line. and if you see something funny, by all means post it so we can discuss it. But as far as medical marijuana goes.

It doesn't effect us. It should help us. My Vicodin was never Taxed, why should my Medical Marijuana be taxed?