Las Vegas, NV Dispensaries Busted
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Look at the state law regulating mmj. There's no way I can answer your question because you can't understand that there are no legal ways for anyone that owns a shop that sales mmj in Nevada to purchase/sale marijuana. A patient cannot give or sale anything they grow for a donation. Even tho the shops are open, state law does not support them as legal outlets. If you can't understand that look up the law yourself. Better yet tomorrow call the NV Dept of Health and Human services and get the same anwsers I just gave you for yourself. Thinking one thing and knowing the truth are 2 entirely different things. Believe what you want.
I won't bother to offer an answer to anything else you ask. It's honestly like a kid asking why, why, why.and not liking the answer when you get it.
I won't bother to offer an answer to anything else you ask. It's honestly like a kid asking why, why, why.and not liking the answer when you get it.
Maybe you can believe what the law actually says instead of wondering why...if you would have taken just a few minutes to figure it out yourself.
Here is the section of the law, NRS 453A that clearly says you can't give/sale/ donate/ what ever, for money or just to feel good to anyone.
NRS 453A.300 Acts for which registry identification cardholder is not exempt from state prosecution and may not raise affirmative defense; additional penalty.
1. A person who holds a registry identification card issued to him or her pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250 is not exempt from state prosecution for, nor may the person establish an affirmative defense to charges arising from, any of the following acts:
(e) Delivering marijuana to another person who he or she knows does not lawfully hold a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250.
(f) Delivering marijuana for consideration to any person, regardless of whether the recipient lawfully holds a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250.
Here is the section of the law, NRS 453A that clearly says you can't give/sale/ donate/ what ever, for money or just to feel good to anyone.
NRS 453A.300 Acts for which registry identification cardholder is not exempt from state prosecution and may not raise affirmative defense; additional penalty.
1. A person who holds a registry identification card issued to him or her pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250 is not exempt from state prosecution for, nor may the person establish an affirmative defense to charges arising from, any of the following acts:
(e) Delivering marijuana to another person who he or she knows does not lawfully hold a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250.
(f) Delivering marijuana for consideration to any person, regardless of whether the recipient lawfully holds a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250.
I did answer your question when I stated this---
"The Constitutional amendment and the state law that regulates the program have provisions in them that clearly state that 1 patient cannot give or sale any marijuana to another. Period. That's it. There is no discussion because that's the way it is until the law is changed. If you understand it differently or someone with some "secret knowledge" has told you there is a way to do this, they are wrong."
What do you think? I pull this shit out of my ass? Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem or you don't know how to read the state law and find the answer to your very question. I even saved you the trouble of looking it up yourself. Now I'm wondering if what the law actually says is gonna be proof enough for you.
Yes ok you make perfect sense now. I'm sure you're 100% right and cops are in fact braking down the doors of people legally allowed to grow so they can seize 7 plants and ignoring the 45 shops who have more then 7 clones AND are "donating" all across town since they don't have the legal right to do that and i do. Yes that makes perfect sense since as you put it the shops aren't in anyway allowed to do what there doing yet i am. Awesome, thanks for clearing that up.
Obviously they are allowed in some form or via some loophole, and i suspect using logic (which you clearly lack) it has something if not 100% to do with the word donate you dismiss as silly, but who am i, i mean its only what there all saying. You're obviously way smarter since you've lived here longer, you get the Vegas game and I'm just a dumb ass kid silly for asking why in the first place. Thank you so much for your wonderful insight and the immense progress you've lent to this topic and all the important points it entails.
Obviously they are allowed in some form or via some loophole, and i suspect using logic (which you clearly lack) it has something if not 100% to do with the word donate you dismiss as silly, but who am i, i mean its only what there all saying. You're obviously way smarter since you've lived here longer, you get the Vegas game and I'm just a dumb ass kid silly for asking why in the first place. Thank you so much for your wonderful insight and the immense progress you've lent to this topic and all the important points it entails.
At what point in the quotes YOU posted do they use the word(s) "give/sale/ donate/ what ever"?? Don't you get that if you're going to quote the law you might want to actually read/understand them and at no points can you infer your own interpretation of it? It says you can't "Delivering marijuana to another person who he or she knows does not lawfully hold a registry identification card",.. you didn't post a thing that that says you can't give/sale/ donate/ what ever it to someone who does. And thus why 45 shops across town are not getting shut down.
The sale/transfer of marijuana in Nevada in any capacity is a felony offense. Look that one up yourself. The NV MMJ law references the drug charge status several time. Have you even read the law?
And I do agree with you. You apparently are a silly dumb ass kid that just does not get it.
Let's see if I can break it down for you.
The state has turned over the "shops" to the feds. If the feds bust them they can't use a mmj defense in court nor can they use the fact that NV constitution allows for a supply system but not the state law which is restricts to growing for ones self or through a caregiver.
The first shop here set up in hopes of the state busting them. They did not. Now the state is using the dea and the irs to go after them. That's the way it works here. By using the feds the shop owners and patients can't use mmj defense at all which is in the direct favor of the state by way of not being forced to change the state law.
If you think there is some "legal" way to set up shop, buy and sell. Shit go for it. You seem to be one who finds things out the hard way.
Tell you what. You seem to think you are smart.You read the law, prove me wrong. It's that simple. Prove me wrong!. Until then I'm through with you.
And I do agree with you. You apparently are a silly dumb ass kid that just does not get it.
Let's see if I can break it down for you.
The state has turned over the "shops" to the feds. If the feds bust them they can't use a mmj defense in court nor can they use the fact that NV constitution allows for a supply system but not the state law which is restricts to growing for ones self or through a caregiver.
The first shop here set up in hopes of the state busting them. They did not. Now the state is using the dea and the irs to go after them. That's the way it works here. By using the feds the shop owners and patients can't use mmj defense at all which is in the direct favor of the state by way of not being forced to change the state law.
If you think there is some "legal" way to set up shop, buy and sell. Shit go for it. You seem to be one who finds things out the hard way.
Tell you what. You seem to think you are smart.You read the law, prove me wrong. It's that simple. Prove me wrong!. Until then I'm through with you.
Why the hell would i have to prove YOU wrong? Who are you exactly? Obviously you think you know it all, and think you're the shit,.. but that doesn't = shit in the real world. If the state really said we're not going to touch this, come on in FEDS and IRS you do it for us, then why didn't they shut them down when they raided a few? Why didn't they raid more? Why are most that got raided back up and running, and literally dozens more never even got raided and are still running? Why were no arrests made? I don't have to prove you wrong, lol,.. recent history does it for me. I don't know the answer to why 45 shops across town are allowed, or being allowed to do what there doing right now as i type this, but i sure as shit know you don't either. Your pessimistic interpretation of the laws you yourself quoted here is wrong though, anyone who reads what it actually say can tell that and thus you're a waste of this communities time.
You're the kind of person that couldn't have the operation of a barn door explained to them and understand.
This is the way it's worked in the past. State leo wants to get rid of the problem. Instead of them working the case they turn it over to the FEDS. The feds take their time. This allows the "shop" owners quite a bit of time to acquire assets. Then one day the shop owner gets busted. Now the feds and the state get a share of the assets. This state has a very long history of doing just this exact type of operation. If the state bust the dispensaries the owners have a pathway through the legal system to sue/file a counter suit of the state legislature because of the difference between what the State Constitution says vs what the State Law says about the supply issue. By turning enforcement over to the Feds/ IRS the state has taken away a counter suit that would/could be used in state court systems to actually allow the dispensaries. It's a matter of time before they are fully legal, but expect the state to have their hands all over them.
I'm sure that part is over your head too.
But since you can't understand the law in simple, easy to understand terms, and the 2 facts that-
#1-It is illegal to operate a dispensary in the state of Nevada-no law allows them
#2-That if you are a Nevada MMJ patient, you can't give/deliver/donate/sale/whatever marijuana to anyone else whether they have a card or not,
Then call this number, the agency that oversees the mmj program-775-687-7594, and find out for yourself. But I'm willing to bet you won't believe them either.
The portion of the law I posted clearly states that one patient cannot give product to another. I don't know, maybe you're just to stu, stu, stupid to understand that that includes giving, donating, selling, consignment, or any other word you want to use.
The law has no loop hole for dispensaries either.
I've been a part of this program for 10 years. I know what is and what isn't allowed. The only change that has happened since it was initally written was to add seeds into the total amount allowed to be possessed. If you are gullible enough to think or believe that what the shop owners here are doing is legal I've got some beach front property with a double wide over in Pahrump to sell you.
Having to explain the same thing over and over again make you the waste of time. So yeah. I've told you what the law says, where it says it, what it means and you still don't believe it. Like I said, prove me/my position wrong instead of defending a position that you either don't know how to or can't wrap you tiny brain around. Thus making you the waste of time.
This is the way it's worked in the past. State leo wants to get rid of the problem. Instead of them working the case they turn it over to the FEDS. The feds take their time. This allows the "shop" owners quite a bit of time to acquire assets. Then one day the shop owner gets busted. Now the feds and the state get a share of the assets. This state has a very long history of doing just this exact type of operation. If the state bust the dispensaries the owners have a pathway through the legal system to sue/file a counter suit of the state legislature because of the difference between what the State Constitution says vs what the State Law says about the supply issue. By turning enforcement over to the Feds/ IRS the state has taken away a counter suit that would/could be used in state court systems to actually allow the dispensaries. It's a matter of time before they are fully legal, but expect the state to have their hands all over them.
I'm sure that part is over your head too.
But since you can't understand the law in simple, easy to understand terms, and the 2 facts that-
#1-It is illegal to operate a dispensary in the state of Nevada-no law allows them
#2-That if you are a Nevada MMJ patient, you can't give/deliver/donate/sale/whatever marijuana to anyone else whether they have a card or not,
Then call this number, the agency that oversees the mmj program-775-687-7594, and find out for yourself. But I'm willing to bet you won't believe them either.
The portion of the law I posted clearly states that one patient cannot give product to another. I don't know, maybe you're just to stu, stu, stupid to understand that that includes giving, donating, selling, consignment, or any other word you want to use.
The law has no loop hole for dispensaries either.
I've been a part of this program for 10 years. I know what is and what isn't allowed. The only change that has happened since it was initally written was to add seeds into the total amount allowed to be possessed. If you are gullible enough to think or believe that what the shop owners here are doing is legal I've got some beach front property with a double wide over in Pahrump to sell you.
Having to explain the same thing over and over again make you the waste of time. So yeah. I've told you what the law says, where it says it, what it means and you still don't believe it. Like I said, prove me/my position wrong instead of defending a position that you either don't know how to or can't wrap you tiny brain around. Thus making you the waste of time.
Oh so this is the way its worked in the past huh old man? Really now,.. so tell me then, how many times, has an MJ dispensary opened shop in LV, then the state did nothing but told the FEDS to come in, and in time that shop (after they got a bunch of money for the gov to steal) was then busted and shut down. How many times has that all taken place exactly? You're a moron dude, the FEDS and IRS even said they came in this time as part of previous investigations and STILL no one was shut down for more then a few days or arrested. Ya they know what there doing is illegal but there just waiting to come bust them for that,.. no need to do it while they were right there or anything, that makes sense.
Oh wait but you also say there all going to be legal someday too, well that all makes perfect sense too.
You're a walking contradiction and it's getting old. To further illustrate that fact:
"if you are a Nevada MMJ patient, you can't give/deliver/donate/sale/whatever marijuana to anyone else whether they have a card or not"
"Delivering marijuana to another person who he or she knows does not lawfully hold a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250"
The above two quotes COMPLETELY contradict one another and anyone who reads this can tell you're a moron who knows only a little and thinks he knows a lot. At least ill admit i don't know how there getting away with it, you on the other hand keep saying there not allowed yet there they are doing it and even when the FEDS did come in it didn't stop them!! Open your eyes, you make no sense! The real sad part of this is now this thread is shit because of you. You believe what you want, and by all means get the last word in, because god knows you seem to need it, but I'm done with your moronic pessimistic inaccurate interpretations of the law and total blindness to what is actually happening in this town you claim to know so well.
Oh wait but you also say there all going to be legal someday too, well that all makes perfect sense too.
You're a walking contradiction and it's getting old. To further illustrate that fact:
"if you are a Nevada MMJ patient, you can't give/deliver/donate/sale/whatever marijuana to anyone else whether they have a card or not"
"Delivering marijuana to another person who he or she knows does not lawfully hold a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250"
The above two quotes COMPLETELY contradict one another and anyone who reads this can tell you're a moron who knows only a little and thinks he knows a lot. At least ill admit i don't know how there getting away with it, you on the other hand keep saying there not allowed yet there they are doing it and even when the FEDS did come in it didn't stop them!! Open your eyes, you make no sense! The real sad part of this is now this thread is shit because of you. You believe what you want, and by all means get the last word in, because god knows you seem to need it, but I'm done with your moronic pessimistic inaccurate interpretations of the law and total blindness to what is actually happening in this town you claim to know so well.
And then there's this part of it too-
(f) Delivering marijuana for consideration to any person, regardless of whether the recipient lawfully holds a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250.
The law contridictes itself. Not me
(f) Delivering marijuana for consideration to any person, regardless of whether the recipient lawfully holds a registry identification card issued by the Division or its designee pursuant to NRS 453A.220 or 453A.250.
The law contridictes itself. Not me
duder you really need to be careful with whom you pick arguments with around here.
brotha RR is very respected
A moran far from it he's very informed on NV state MMJ laws
now on a side note i forget which state senator is drafting a bill as i type he has alot of support for this bill.
said bill will tax and regulate the despensing of MMJ in NV, currently in drafting stages but should be ready for vote in Feb. so ifn this bill passes i would expect legal despensing of MMJ in NV at shops like where busted. by next july and if this happens hopefully what the LV DA david rogers done by handing the shop owners to the feds will be throwen out in court.
Is Chris Rasmussen who is a high profile lawyer and on the legal committee for NORML good enough for you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBRsiIabVZg
Thanks Maj. Pothead. That's alright. I'm just a moron. I don't know shit, hehe
Naw. That won't answer his questions either.Would just be some lawyer on the news giving an opinion he's getting paid to promote therefore an unreliable purveyor of misinformation and one sided untruths.
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Hey that's my job and I'm keeping it!
LOL. How ya doing bro. I'm competing for head moron.
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